Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 21
st, 2017 at 8:13pm:
What part of - "You cannot take into account negotiated salaries, provided nobody is paid less than the minimum for the same job and level."... do you, and in this case the ABC, NOT understand?
I understand what you are blabbering on about. But, as per usual, you are wrong.
Quote:A recent study from Cass Business School, the University of Warwick and the University of Wisconsin shows that women ask for wage rises just as often as men but men are 25% more likely to get a raise when they ask. The study collected data from 4,600 Australian workers across more than 800 employers and found no difference in the likelihood of asking between the two genders.
So, to summarise, men get raises more often than women, resulting in higher wages, resulting in more super. Do you understand that?
Quote: At that level of income the effect is meaningless for the vast majority of people, and meaningless in saying a woman will be paid less super since her super in that position is already far above what most could gain.... her super will reflect what she earns and will still far out-strip that of the vast majority of people.
What on earth are you talking about. This is some stream of consciousness word salad type drivel. Just because a female gets the highest wage bracket and earns more than most people doesnt mean she doesnt suffer from discrimination. It just means she has overcome it.
Quote:You reckon that any differences are all about 'discrimination?Do you ever say that when a woman cops a sweet CEO job? Do you reckon she's only got it from the same people because of discrimination?
No, I reckon she has got there despite discrimination, not because of it. Again, there are more dudes called Steve who are ceos than there are female ceos.
Quote: I'll bet you don't! And you'd never admit that she might have got that job because to not give it to woman meant copping vitriol and condemnation....
Thats because its patently not true. If it were true, there would be more women ceos than ceos called Steve, but there aren't.
Quote: which is another form of discrimination and is nothing but Bolshevism from a small and loud-voiced group intent on pure self-interest.
Pointing out that you are being discriminatory does not mean you are being discriminated against.
Quote:NONE of the people ranting about poor little rich girls not having as much super gives one damn about the ordinary woman going to work in a menial job
Again, patently not true and simply a delusion brought on by PTSD.
Quote:she's just cannon fodder
- and in case you missed that point, too - MY interest is always in the REAL under-dogs -
Again, patently not true, otherwise you wouldnt have kicked up such a fuss over the fact that women are discriminated against.
Quote:not the poor little fat cat chicks with enough already, who only know how to whine that they should have the whole pie.
I assume you are this derogatory towards the male fats cats too. Seeing as there so are many more of them. Oh wait, you aren't? Colour me amazed.
Quote:Talk about the blind....
Chortling IRL
Quote:NOBODY is entitled to a top job.. you earn it in a thousand ways.... and handing those around on political grounds is insanity and failure in waiting....
I can guarantee you 110% that if a woman makes to to CEO level she has earnt it 100 times over. Same for any board level position. You simply have no concept of what a woman goes through the higher up the chain she gets.
Quote:WOW! 1 to 5% - that means she probably gets paid ONLY $300,000 instead of $310,0000 - if that! Those are NEGOTIATED SALARIES dependent on many factors.... including performance, client base, and how THEY perform ...
And its still discriminatory.
Quote:Who actually gives a fat damn about hot-shot accounting firms? For every one of those fat cat chicks there are thousands of ordinary girls out there, and plenty of ordinary guys as well - who would love a decent job with decent income.
Im guessing the people who work there care. So do the people studying accounting at school/uni. Seeing as there are many many many many many more fat cat guys why dont you rant and rave about them?
I do like how you moved the goalposts though. You asked for a case of discrimination, then you dismissed the example. Its a classic tactic of obfuscation and is ultimately a sign that you cant win the argument, so you keep changing the terms of the argument.
Quote:Talk about 'feminism' being middle class... never risen above that gutter yet, has it?
No, feminism effects everyone. You are the first person I have heard of to call it middle class, and honestly, the only time I take any attention of the point you are trying to make is so that I can assume the opposite to be true. Usually that makes me right. I like being right. You should try it some time.
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