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Re: breaking the mould
Reply #30 - Jul 21^st, 2017 at 12:42pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 8:12pm:

I'm a Muslim, ask me anything: Perth Imam Kamran Tahir tackling Islamophobia over coffee

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Kamran Tahir is flat out trying to break down the negative stereotypes he believes are contributing to growing Islamophobia in Australia.

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Kamran Tahir = = moslem == 'shape shifter' [....or, a flag in the political wind]

100% -------- >

Every person who willingly declares;

"I am a moslem. Allah is my god, and Mohammed is his messenger."

......is a terrorist or a latent terrorist.

Moslem = = moslem = = follower of ISLAM.

PERIOD.

While-ever 'the political wind' remains 'difficult' for the moslem community [who are living within a secular state], then those/many moslems like Kamran Tahir will change their public 'appearance', in order to present a more 'acceptable' facade, to those [non-believers] who observe them.

But when, eventually, 'the political wind' changes to favour the 'aspirations' of those in the moslem community, then we will see people like Kamran Tahir begin to morph into the true moslem creature, that they are.

Dictionary;
facade = =
1 the face of a building, especially its principal front.
2 a deceptive outward appearance.

Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1499248128/0#0
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Don't be duped, by moslem denials.

THE TRUTH....

Every moslem in Australia, is a moslem.

A moslem is a follower of ISLAM. < -------- dictionary definition.

Q.
Would a person who is an honest person, and a person who is a moral person, choose, to be a follower of such a murderous philosophy ?

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The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. Ignorance may deride it. But in the end, there it is.
- Winston Churchill

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CRIMINAL INTENT, IN THE MOSLEM HEART
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1252898491/0#0
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Every moslem in Australia [and indeed, every moslem on the planet], by self declaring as a moslem, is self declaring a criminal intent [by our laws] against local non-moslems.

ISLAM is a criminal compact among moslems, to wage a violent 'religious' war against non-moslems ['disbelievers'].

.....Basically, fundamentally, all ISLAMIC doctrine translates as enmity, and encourages [criminal] violence, towards ALL non-moslems.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Re: breaking the mould
Reply #31 - Jul 21^st, 2017 at 3:58pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 10:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 9:17pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 9:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 8:50pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 8:48pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 8:43pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 8:41pm:

Yeah they all frocked up as a gang.... LOL

does that mean you don't support his actions?

His actions?
Well I'm a bit suss about the guy from England and the new Mosque.

As for his gang... I think they didn't give the concept and presentation enough thought.

gang huh? I wonder when the last time you called a congregation from a christian church a 'gang'.

Cheesy

yeah GANG.... you don't spend much time in Sydney in Muslim centres do you.... Grin

I'm going to bet you've never even entered one

Well make it a million dollars and I'll tell you where to send the money.
I have Muslim friends, Lebanese friends, etc, etc, and I've been to several muslim enclaves many times.

Now that we've got that stupidity out of the way perhaps you'd like to get back to real debate.

I note there were NO WOMEN in the GANG either. Roll Eyes

Oh dear.... you keep proving me right don't you.... you were the one casting doubt and denying my experience.

YOU were wrong and YES I answered your stupidity and got back on target.

Gonna apologise? Cheesy

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72209 Gender:	Re: breaking the mould Reply #32 - Jul 21^st, 2017 at 4:01pm John Smith wrote on Jul 21^st, 2017 at 11:40am: John Smith wrote on Jul 21^st, 2017 at 9:18am: ou don't spend much time in Sydney in Muslim centres do you. Grendel wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 10:47pm: and I've been to several muslim enclaves many times. looks like a change to me.
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Reply #33 - Jul 21^st, 2017 at 5:52pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 8:12pm:

I'm a Muslim, ask me anything: Perth Imam Kamran Tahir tackling Islamophobia over coffee

.......The 26-year-old was sent to Western Australia from Sydney three months ago by his Ahmadiyya community to set up a new mosque at a disused ice rink in Perth's southern suburbs.

Ahmadi moslems are a minority group of moslems [who are claimed to be heretics by Sunnis and Shia].

Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1494637913/70#70
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QUESTION;......

Do Ahmadis revere a different Mohammed, or read a different Koran, or worship a different Allah ?

A.
No they do not !

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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1494637913/75#75
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Don't kid yourself Ahmadi moslems are not 'victims'.

They are simply another group of moslems, who are engaged in conflict with those who do not believe as they believe.

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Ahmadi moslem Qasim Rashid, is just another moslem, who would be persecuting the enemies of Allah, if he was given the 'opportunity' to do so

Koran 48.29

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By Christine Williams on May 13, 2017 06:08 am

Muslim spokesman blames Christianity for Islamic blasphemy laws

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It is characteristic of Islamic supremacists to blame
the Christian,
the Jew,
colonialism,
imperialism and/or
the West
for any Muslim failure, misdeed and misfortune.
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Qasim Rashid, in his column below, claims that his tiny Ahmadi sect supports the freedom of speech, but he blames Christianity for Islamic blasphemy laws, while exonerating Islam from any responsibility for them.

Rashid falsely claims that blasphemy laws are “not Islamic at all,” even though they are very Islamic.

Sharia law is considered divine law and it encompasses both the hadith and the Quran.

The hadith is explicit on blasphemy laws, but Rashid, like many others, relies on Western ignorance about Islam.

In fact, his reputation precedes him as a professional liar.

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/05/muslim-spokesman-blames-christianity-for-isla...

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72209 Gender:	Re: breaking the mould Reply #34 - Jul 21^st, 2017 at 5:55pm Yadda stop ruining the thread with all your crap. If you're going to make a comment, just make it. Keep it legible.
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Re: breaking the mould
Reply #35 - Jul 21^st, 2017 at 6:05pm

There is one question this bloke has to answer, given that our government tells us:

Australian National Security listed terrorist groups

1. Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG)

2. Al-Murabitun

3. Al-Qa'ida (AQ)

4. Al-Qa'ida in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP)

5. Al-Qa’ida in the Indian Subcontinent (AQIS)

6. Al-Qa’ida in the Lands of the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM)

7. Al-Shabaab

8. Ansar al-Islam

9. Boko Haram

10. Hamas' Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades

11. Hizballah's External Security Organisation (ESO)

12. Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan

13. Islamic State

14. Islamic State in Libya (IS-Libya)

15. Islamic State Sinai Province (IS-Sinai)

16. Jabhat al-Nusra

17. Jaish-e-Mohammed

18. Jamiat ul-Ansar (JuA)

19. Jemaah Islamiyah (JI)

20. Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK)

21. Lashkar-e Jhangvi

22. Lashkar-e-Tayyiba

23. Palestinian Islamic Jihad

Every single muslim terrorist doubtlessly believes he / she is absolutely guaranteed a place in allahs' paradise, they can quote doctrinal proof from innumerable sources in the qur'an.

We don't need the eternal bullshit excuses about interpretation, islam is a religion of peace, it's hard to understand because it's written in Arabic, crapola, crapola, crapola.

islamic terrorism has nothing to do with Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism etc. etc., it is a muslim problem solely.

So the real question is:

When are muslims going to address the evil in the qur'an which causes and motivates world wide islamic terrorism?

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 39526	Re: breaking the mould Reply #36 - Jul 21^st, 2017 at 6:46pm And 20 years ago, it was primarily Christian groups, from Ireland that dominated the list, Moses. Times change, fashions change, conflicts change. Funny that, hey?
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Re: breaking the mould
Reply #37 - Jul 21^st, 2017 at 7:38pm

The board liar & muslim terrorist supporter wrote:

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And 20 years ago, it was primarily Christian groups, from Ireland that dominated the list, Moses.

What a load of deliberately fallacious rubbish, to excuse islamic terrorism the leftards post.

U.S. Dept of state list of global terrorists in 1997 were:

Foreign Terrorist Organizations

1 Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG)

2 Aum Shinrikyo (AUM)

3 Basque Fatherland and Liberty (ETA)

4 Gama’a al-Islamiyya (Islamic Group) (IG)

5 HAMAS

6 Harakat ul-Mujahidin (HUM)

7 Hizballah

8 Kahane Chai (Kach)

9 Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) (Kongra-Gel)

10 Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE)

11 National Liberation Army (ELN)

12 Palestine Liberation Front (PLF)

13 Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ)

14 Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLF)

15 PFLP-General Command (PFLP-GC)

16Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC)

17 Revolutionary People’s Liberation Party/Front (DHKP/C)

18 Shining Path (SL)

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Re: breaking the mould
Reply #38 - Jul 21^st, 2017 at 8:01pm

moses wrote on Jul 21^st, 2017 at 7:38pm:

The board liar & muslim terrorist supporter wrote:

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And 20 years ago, it was primarily Christian groups, from Ireland that dominated the list, Moses.

What a load of deliberately fallacious rubbish, to excuse islamic terrorism the leftards post.

U.S. Dept of state list of global terrorists in 1997 were...

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. First you quote the Australian list of proscribed organisations and now you're trying to claim it was identical to the US list of proscribed organisations. Moses, you really are being rather foolish, you realise. Get us the Australian list so we can compared apples to apples and not apples to oranges. Roll Eyes

Oh, and BTW, nearly half your US list are non-Islamic... Funny that, hey? Roll Eyes

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Re: breaking the mould
Reply #39 - Jul 21^st, 2017 at 9:05pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 21^st, 2017 at 6:46pm:

And 20 years ago, it was primarily Christian groups, from Ireland that dominated the list, Moses. Times change, fashions change, conflicts change. Funny that, hey? Roll Eyes

Bollocks, Brian.

Show evidence.

In any case, why should we ignore the present ISLAMIC threat because in the past there were other threats??

You are stupid and you have no excuse, Bwian. You just want to be stupid. And so we hold you in the utter contempt you deserve.

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Re: breaking the mould
Reply #41 - Jul 21^st, 2017 at 9:46pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 21^st, 2017 at 6:46pm:

And 20 years ago, it was primarily Christian groups, from Ireland that dominated the list, Moses.

Times change, fashions change, conflicts change.

Funny that, hey? Roll Eyes

Hilarious......

How many 'Irish' Aussies went on rape and pillage tours of Northern Ireland during 'the troubles' ?

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Reply #42 - Jul 21^st, 2017 at 9:46pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 21^st, 2017 at 5:55pm:

Yadda stop ruining the thread with all your crap. If you're going to make a comment, just make it.

When moslems are not murdering 'disbelievers', they are lying to 'disbelievers'.

When moslems are not murdering Aussies ['disbelievers'], moslems are pretending, that ISLAM teaches peace and tolerance.

All moslems [followers of ISLAM] are liars, and all moslems are latent homicidal maniacs.

Every moslem, is a follower of ISLAM.

ISLAM = = murderous death cult.

Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1499248128/0#0
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Don't be duped, by moslem denials.

THE TRUTH....

Every moslem in Australia, is a moslem.

A moslem is a follower of ISLAM. < -------- dictionary definition.

Q.
Would a person who is an honest person, and a person who is a moral person, choose, to be a follower of such a murderous philosophy ?

.

Spokesmen for ISLAM will tell anyone who will listen;

THAT IT IS WRONG, AND THAT IT IS TOTALLY AGAINST ISLAMIC LAW, TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE.

Here is a moslem in the UK explaining, who the innocent people are.

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Please watch this YT...
A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;

Quote:

YT

KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE

"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."

"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
"...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Re: breaking the mould
Reply #43 - Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 12:22am

Frank wrote on Jul 21^st, 2017 at 9:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 21^st, 2017 at 6:46pm:

And 20 years ago, it was primarily Christian groups, from Ireland that dominated the list, Moses. Times change, fashions change, conflicts change. Funny that, hey? Roll Eyes

Bollocks, Brian.

Show evidence.

In any case, why should we ignore the present ISLAMIC threat because in the past there were other threats??

Where did I suggest that, Soren? Really, your Islamophobia is getting out of control. Seek help, please.

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You are stupid and you have no excuse, Bwian. You just want to be stupid. And so we hold you in the utter contempt you deserve.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Move along folks, its just Soren throwing his ad hominem insults again. Nothing worth seeing here. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Re: breaking the mould
Reply #44 - Jul 22^nd, 2017 at 10:32am

John Smith wrote on Jul 21^st, 2017 at 4:01pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 21^st, 2017 at 11:40am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 21^st, 2017 at 9:18am:

ou don't spend much time in Sydney in Muslim centres do you.

Grendel wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 10:47pm:

and I've been to several muslim enclaves many times.

looks like a change to me. Cheesy

Why do you keep lying?
Why do you fail to post what you said?

How many times must I keep reposting it you lying twat?

I didn't change the topic I simply replied to what you said.
You lied.
I didn't.
You are still lying... why don't you address what I have said about the "gang" and their approach? Why don't you address the FACTS?
It's because I'm right... and YOU as usual are wrong. Cheesy

Stop lying and wasting everyone's time TROLL.

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