Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 21
st, 2017 at 7:48pm:
That's according to the report - still doesn't figure out why women work 76% of the hours men do but suffer under only receiving 76% of the incomes men do... pretty simple really. If they were all on the same hourly rate it fits perfectly, so where is there discrimination involved?
I know you are stuck on information from the last decade, but we have moved on I swear.
Quote:How is it 'gender discrimination' that more women generally move into the areas of work that are not as physically strenuous, and unfortunately some of those areas attract lower rates of pay?
You have this notion that high paid jobs involve strenuous activity. Im not denying that that is the case some times, but if you think being an investment banker or board member is in any way strenuous, guess what, you are wrong. also
Quote:Women are not “choosing” to work in lower paying industries but, when large numbers of women start to work in an industry, they all get paid less. As Rhaina Cohen explained in an article in the Atlantic:
A study [by the sociologists Asaf Levanon, Paula England, and Paul Allison], which examined census data from 1950 to 2000, found that, when women enter an occupation in large numbers, that job begins to pay less, even after controlling for a range of factors like skill, race and geography. Their analysis found evidence of “devaluation” – that a higher proportion of women in an occupation leads to lower pay because of the discounting of work performed by women.
So, in other words: 50 years of data proved that the more women join an industry the less everyone gets paid.
If that’s not convincing enough, Cohen also pointed to a study showing that higher the percentage of women in an industry the lower its perceived “prestige”; and a study from 2007 that found that even where men’s low-wage jobs demand far less in terms of skill, education and certifications than women’s low-wage jobs, the male-dominated ones usually command higher hourly pay.
Quote:Are you suggesting there is no discrimination against male nurses in that massively female-dominated environment? How many top grade nurses are men?
No. But that doesnt mean that women arent massively discriminated against. I agree it would be lovely if noone was discriminated against, and hopefully one day we will get there as a society, but in the mean time, im not going to waste my time arguing men should get a better go when they already get the best go and literally 50% of the population can be helped otherwise, as opposed to a small group in one sector.
Quote:The fact still remains - nobody gets paid less than the mandated minimum, unless they are working for SeanKey Industries (an offshoot of ripoff Enterprises)...
Noone is arguing that. Well, unless you worked for coles, or 7-11.
Quote:You simply cannot take into account contracted or negotiated salaries, since those are dependent on many, many factors, the LEAST of which is discrimination.
Yes we can. Look, they already did. People who studied this as a job looked at it and said "We can control that variable." and so they did. Guess what they came up with?
Quote:Again - Tom Cruise or Nicole Kidman does not get paid equity rates....... there are clear reasons why that is so, and the same applies in many spheres of work.
Wait, what are those reasons? Why shouldnt a lead actress be paid the same as a lead actor. This one should be a doozy I reckon.
Quote:How is it discrimination for a woman to take care of a sick child? That's called... LIFE... and always has been.
Because, generally, there are two parents, a male and a female, and lumping all the cooking, cleaning and caring onto the female, and then expecting her to earn a living as well, is discriminatory.
Quote:Reports are a dime a dozen and, like Royal Commissions, are rarely called for unless the outcome is already known or desired in advance.
Ok? We know females are discriminated against. We have the facts to back it up, and its all complied in an easy to read report. Why do you have a problem with this?