Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 20
th, 2017 at 8:01pm:
I busted those myths decades ago...... basically it's all lies...
Whoops, sorry, I missed your edit.
Quote:NOBODY on a wage or salary level is paid less than the required amount for that work - to do so WAS illegal (before Joey and Tones got their hands on it following in the footsteps of Wee Johnnie Howard)
Quote:The pay gap figure is bogus because it does not reflect ‘like-for-like’ pay gaps for employees in the same or comparable roles
It must be said that while it is illegal to pay women less than men doing the same jobs, it is still happening. WGEA’s annual report shows that, even in their first year in the workforce, male graduates earn more than female graduates entering the same roles. Recent estimates from Australia suggest that for partners in top firms, the like-for-like gap is up to 5%.
Strike 1. I told you to read the article, but you didnt did you? No, of course you didnt.
Quote:- where there are differences it MAY be due to salary or promotion or different work under different conditions, or for any multitude of other factors.
Quote:Women don’t negotiate for better pay so it’s their fault if they’re paid less
Again, it’s not true to say women don’t ask for raises. They just don’t receive them at the same rate as men. And there is evidence that when women do negotiate, they are actually penalised.
A recent study from Cass Business School, the University of Warwick and the University of Wisconsin shows that women ask for wage rises just as often as men but men are 25% more likely to get a raise when they ask. The study collected data from 4,600 Australian workers across more than 800 employers and found no difference in the likelihood of asking between the two genders. The authors suggested that it might actually be “how” women ask, that a lack of assertiveness in negotiations is often cited as a potential reason why women might make less money than men for similar work.
As WGEA explains, negotiation is usually associated with agentic, and therefore masculine, behaviour. When employers negotiate with women, they tend to offer less and are more likely to resist influence attempts. Studies have shown that women’s reluctance to enter negotiations is partly because they are penalised more than men for doing so. The more women anticipate backlash, the less inclined they are to initiate negotiations.
In other words, women are asking for raises but, if they ask too assertively, they’re turned down for being too pushy, and if they don’t ask assertively enough, they aren’t good negotiators so they don’t get a raise.
I mean, cmon man its like you arent even trying. Or is this you trying? thats gotta be a bit depressing. Do you need someone to talk to? Lifeline can be a lot of help and beyond blue do a lot of good work in the area as well. Would you like me to get you a phone number?
Quote:I've acted in films - nobody offered me Tom Cruise type salary for the work..... not relevant since it is not an issue UNLESS I was paid less than Equity rates. No woman is paid less than the required rate for her work.
Oh im glad you brought up hollywood, because the gender pay gap is even worse there. Thanks for the nice segue.
Quote:http://time.com/money/4207416/hollywood-wage-gap/
Lawrence is just the most visible example of the dismal state of pay equality in Tinseltown. A 2014 study published in the Journal of Management Inquiry entitled Age, Gender, and Compensation: A Study of Hollywood Movie Stars concluded that pay for female movie stars increases until they reach 34, then rapidly decreases (as does the number of roles for women of a certain age). For men, the peak earning year is 51, and there is no noticeable decline in wages after that. As Helaine Olen noted in Slate, that means "25-year-old Lawrence has nine years to go, while 40-year-old [Bradley] Cooper has 11."
A similar thing happens to the salaries of non-celebrity workers as well. Studies have shown that earnings peak for women between the ages of 34 and 39, while wages continue to rise steadily for men until around age 50.It's worth pausing here to note that many of the traditional justifications for the wage gap just don't hold up in Tinseltown. Actors and actresses fulfill the same job in the same time frame, using the same set of tools. You can't attribute the gap to differences in productivity, strength, or women being less skilled as performers (sorry, Aaron Sorkin).
Quote:I've posted for you times many that according to a census taken here - around 2005 - the exact difference in INCOME level (not wage level) corresponded exactly to the difference in the average hours worked by women as compared to men.
Jeez, fortunately we have data thats better than more than a decade old, and hey, what do you know, thats what they have used in these studies. Im willing to be the actual scientists who did these studies corrected for a lot more errors than what you did.
Quote:Sex discrimination in the report accounts for everything that is left after all the other factors that have an impact on the gender pay gap, such as age, tenure, time out of the workforce, occupation, industry, part-time work and sector, have been taken into account. This means that more than a third of the gender pay gap is the result of gender discrimination and unconscious bias.