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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 34507 Gender:	Re: Christian 'Headship" Reply #45 - Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:21pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:19pm: Google this - comes up dry.... "rape of muslim women by non-muslim australians" It does show the Sydney gang rapes as first port of call though - perpetrated by Muslims... Just not a word about any Muslim woman raped by a non-Muslim...
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 34507 Gender:	Re: Christian 'Headship" Reply #46 - Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:23pm For Grap ...
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72209 Gender:	Re: Christian 'Headship" Reply #47 - Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:25pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:19pm: Just not a word about any Muslim woman raped by a non-Muslim.. given what many muslim women face overseas, and the value they put on bringing shame to the family, do you think a Muslim woman here would ever report it?
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Reply #48 - Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:26pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:07pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:04pm:

Just in line with my comment on rape of Muslim women etc, and the way it was handled by some - the same applies to every issue I've ever asked of those who claim some Muslim oppression here - I've asked for facts on gangs running around attacking Muslims, where are they refused a vote, where are they refused jobs and education, where are they refused right of association, where are they restricted in their movement within this nation.. and so on ad infinitum.

The same old response applies - deafening silence filled out with ad hominem hyperbole signifying nothing.....

This is what discussion in this country has descended to over the past forty years or so....

Come on Mr Grappler......let's see that list of rapists and their victims including the religion of each.

He's working on it.

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Reply #49 - Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:27pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:25pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:19pm:

Just not a word about any Muslim woman raped by a non-Muslim..

given what many muslim women face overseas, and the value they put on bringing shame to the family, do you think a Muslim woman here would ever report it?

An important variable that may apply to some Muslim women.

It is also important to underline that most sexual assaults go unreported, for a number of reasons.

But thankyou John, for introducing a new variable.

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Reply #50 - Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:28pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:26pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:07pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:04pm:

Just in line with my comment on rape of Muslim women etc, and the way it was handled by some - the same applies to every issue I've ever asked of those who claim some Muslim oppression here - I've asked for facts on gangs running around attacking Muslims, where are they refused a vote, where are they refused jobs and education, where are they refused right of association, where are they restricted in their movement within this nation.. and so on ad infinitum.

The same old response applies - deafening silence filled out with ad hominem hyperbole signifying nothing.....

This is what discussion in this country has descended to over the past forty years or so....

Come on Mr Grappler......let's see that list of rapists and their victims including the religion of each.

He's working on it.

http://www.reneweveryday.com/assets/1/7/Make_a_List.jpg

Remember now lads, we're not just after the religious persuasion of the poor woman raped ... we need to know if it were done by an "Aussie".

I'm still waiting for a definition on that.

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Reply #51 - Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:30pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:25pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:19pm:

Just not a word about any Muslim woman raped by a non-Muslim..

given what many muslim women face overseas, and the value they put on bringing shame to the family, do you think a Muslim woman here would ever report it?

So you are saying that such events are common but are unreported... what is your support for that contention? Living within their kind of culture, where is there opportunity for such things to occur, other than within that closed social group?

Getting hard data out of the Muso Luvvahs here is like drawing teeth.... it's like dealing with the feminists and their massive underground oppression of women theories.... no proof - just rhetoric and hyperbole...

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Reply #52 - Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:32pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:30pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:25pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:19pm:

Just not a word about any Muslim woman raped by a non-Muslim..

given what many muslim women face overseas, and the value they put on bringing shame to the family, do you think a Muslim woman here would ever report it?

So you are saying that such events are common but are unreported... what is your support for that contention? Living within their kind of culture, where is there opportunity for such things to occur, other than within that closed social group?

Getting hard data out of the Muso Luvvahs here is like drawing teeth.... it's like dealing with the feminists and their massive underground oppression of women theories.... no proof - just rhetoric and hyperbole...

Oh well done John. You provided Grap with an alley to duck down.

It still leads to a hilarious dead end ... but we had him ... damnit .. we had him.

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Reply #53 - Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:37pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:30pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:25pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:19pm:

Just not a word about any Muslim woman raped by a non-Muslim..

given what many muslim women face overseas, and the value they put on bringing shame to the family, do you think a Muslim woman here would ever report it?

So you are saying that such events are common but are unreported... what is your support for that contention? Living within their kind of culture, where is there opportunity for such things to occur, other than within that closed social group?

Getting hard data out of the Muso Luvvahs here is like drawing teeth.... it's like dealing with the feminists and their massive underground oppression of women theories.... no proof - just rhetoric and hyperbole...

who said anything about common or uncommon grap? Just a thought I had and wanted to see what others thought of it.

Since you bought up proof, I'm still waiting for you to prove your claim. tick tock, get to it!

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Reply #54 - Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:38pm

Empty space posted - look it up for yourself and see if you can find a single reference to any Muslim woman being raped by a non-Muslim Australian anywhere....

As FD said - proving a negative is impossible... so I ask you again - refute my stance with some factual data to support the view that Muslim women are raped by non-Muslim Australians... all you will find is data on Muslim men raping non-Muslim women for some twisted religious or ethnic group reason... what they do in their own community is pretty much a secret even from the police... who, in my direct experience, simply cannot cope with the level of crime and unlawful behaviour in Muslim areas of Sydney.

John Smith may have a point in saying that no Muslim woman would report being raped - but still - the reality is that, given their restricted movement within their own community, the chances of it happening at the hands of a non-Muslim are remote to say the least.

Mothra - from your fact finding tours - how many Muslim women have you met who tell you they've been raped by non-Muslim Australians?

There is definitely something in the water West of the Dividing Abyss.... western border of NSW.... maybe we should fence it off... for our own safety and sanity.....

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Reply #55 - Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:39pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:37pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:30pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:25pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:19pm:

Just not a word about any Muslim woman raped by a non-Muslim..

given what many muslim women face overseas, and the value they put on bringing shame to the family, do you think a Muslim woman here would ever report it?

So you are saying that such events are common but are unreported... what is your support for that contention? Living within their kind of culture, where is there opportunity for such things to occur, other than within that closed social group?

Getting hard data out of the Muso Luvvahs here is like drawing teeth.... it's like dealing with the feminists and their massive underground oppression of women theories.... no proof - just rhetoric and hyperbole...

who said anything about common or uncommon grap? Just a thought I had and wanted to see what others thought of it.

Since you bought up proof, I'm still waiting for you to prove your claim. tick tock, get to it!

I've posted a google title for anyone to check - and asked that they come up with a single reference to refute what I said.... no takers so far.... plenty that discusses Muslim rapists though.... Roll Eyes

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Reply #56 - Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:40pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:38pm:

Empty space posted - look it up for yourself and see if you can find a single reference to any Muslim woman being raped by a non-Muslim Australian anywhere....

As FD said - proving a negative is impossible... .....

It's not about proving a negative.

"NO Aussie has EVER raped a Muslim woman in this nation... ONLY Muslims do that!!"

The onus is on you to produce the list of every Muslim woman raped in this country, and to then show that in every single case the perpetrator was a Muslim.

We're all waiting.

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 34507 Gender:	Re: Christian 'Headship" Reply #57 - Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:41pm Grap is actually serious, isn't he ...
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Reply #58 - Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:41pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:38pm:

John Smith may have a point in saying that no Muslim woman would report being raped - but still - the reality is that, given their restricted movement within their own community, the chances of it happening at the hands of a non-Muslim are remote to say the least.

You've never met a Muslim, have you?

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Reply #59 - Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:42pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:41pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 20^th, 2017 at 1:38pm:

John Smith may have a point in saying that no Muslim woman would report being raped - but still - the reality is that, given their restricted movement within their own community, the chances of it happening at the hands of a non-Muslim are remote to say the least.

You've never met a Muslim, have you?

Dear god ... it gets worse.

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