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Re: Christian 'Headship"
Reply #30 - Jul 20th, 2017 at 12:08pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 19th, 2017 at 11:41pm:
... wrote on Jul 19th, 2017 at 11:22pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 19th, 2017 at 10:54pm:
All the Christian sanctimonious Muslim bashers are in for a hit.





So whats in it for you?


It would be quite interesting to see those who rabbit on about how women are subjugated in Islam have to confront that even to this day, within Christianity, there is exactly the same 'subjugation.'


Can you explain how it is exactly the same? Is this based on your complete ignorance on the role of women in Islam?

mothra wrote on Jul 20th, 2017 at 11:29am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 20th, 2017 at 11:27am:
mothra wrote on Jul 20th, 2017 at 6:44am:
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 19th, 2017 at 11:54pm:
NO Aussie has EVER raped a Muslim woman in this nation... ONLY Muslims do that!!



Are you sure?



Jesus ... missed that gem of Grap's. I tend to skim his posts.

Well. he's said some stupid things but that is without doubt the stupidest.

A fore-runner for stupidest post on this forum ever, in fact.


So you would like to present some facts to support your idea that this is a nonsense comment?

WHERE is this massive list of Muslim women raped by Aussie men?

Or are you content to rest with Ad Hominem  ?

(feminism - two peoples separated by a common sandwich)....



The onus is on you.

No Aussie (whatever that means) has ever raped a Muslim woman.

The floor is yours.


Now there's a surprise, Mothra falling back to the hysterical and non-sensical. And all the apologists turn up to repeat it, oblivious to any need to make sense. You can't prove a negative Mothra. On the other hand you would only have to produce a single example to disprove the claim.
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Re: Christian 'Headship"
Reply #31 - Jul 20th, 2017 at 12:36pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 20th, 2017 at 12:08pm:
That 7.30 Report seems based on this disgraceful and sorry Christian story.

Link.

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I was raped and controlled by my husband for decades. He was a priest

My husband constantly reminded me it was my wifely duty to obey his every command. He controlled everything I did: what I ate, where I went, how much I spent. But as the parish priest, he was protected by the Church — while I was shunned.




Mr Grappler...you know the Roooles.  He who makes the claim carries the onus to prove it.

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I think FD covered that.... there is no list of Muslim women who have not been raped in this nation by non-Muslim men ... nor is there any list of those who have, for the simple reason that such a thing is a non-event.

As for the story line - such behaviour on the part of anyone, let alone a religious person, is disgraceful, shameful and illegal, and should be punished severely once proven.


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Re: Christian 'Headship"
Reply #32 - Jul 20th, 2017 at 12:38pm
 
Okay, produce a list of all rapes in Australia....names of rapists and names of victims.  Include religion as well, please.
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Re: Christian 'Headship"
Reply #33 - Jul 20th, 2017 at 12:41pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 20th, 2017 at 12:08pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 19th, 2017 at 11:41pm:
... wrote on Jul 19th, 2017 at 11:22pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 19th, 2017 at 10:54pm:
All the Christian sanctimonious Muslim bashers are in for a hit.





So whats in it for you?


It would be quite interesting to see those who rabbit on about how women are subjugated in Islam have to confront that even to this day, within Christianity, there is exactly the same 'subjugation.'


Can you explain how it is exactly the same? Is this based on your complete ignorance on the role of women in Islam?

mothra wrote on Jul 20th, 2017 at 11:29am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 20th, 2017 at 11:27am:
mothra wrote on Jul 20th, 2017 at 6:44am:
Raven wrote on Jul 20th, 2017 at 5:00am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 19th, 2017 at 11:54pm:
NO Aussie has EVER raped a Muslim woman in this nation... ONLY Muslims do that!!



Are you sure?



Jesus ... missed that gem of Grap's. I tend to skim his posts.

Well. he's said some stupid things but that is without doubt the stupidest.

A fore-runner for stupidest post on this forum ever, in fact.


So you would like to present some facts to support your idea that this is a nonsense comment?

WHERE is this massive list of Muslim women raped by Aussie men?

Or are you content to rest with Ad Hominem  ?

(feminism - two peoples separated by a common sandwich)....



The onus is on you.

No Aussie (whatever that means) has ever raped a Muslim woman.

The floor is yours.


Now there's a surprise, Mothra falling back to the hysterical and non-sensical. And all the apologists turn up to repeat it, oblivious to any need to make sense. You can't prove a negative Mothra. On the other hand you would only have to produce a single example to disprove the claim.



Oh? No Muslim women have EVER been raped by "Australian"  men, FD?  Only Muslims do that?

You sure about that?

Is it just me, or is it getting stupider in here?
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Re: Christian 'Headship"
Reply #34 - Jul 20th, 2017 at 12:42pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 20th, 2017 at 12:08pm:
You can't prove a negative Mothra.


It's not about proving a negative.

Focus on the second part of his ridiculous statement.

"NO Aussie has EVER raped a Muslim woman in this nation... ONLY Muslims do that!!"

The onus is on Grap to produce the list of every Muslim woman raped in this country, and to then show that in every single case the perpetrator was a Muslim.

Over to you, Grap ...
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Re: Christian 'Headship"
Reply #35 - Jul 20th, 2017 at 12:44pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20th, 2017 at 12:42pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 20th, 2017 at 12:08pm:
You can't prove a negative Mothra.


It's not about proving a negative.

Focus on the second part of his ridiculous statement.

"NO Aussie has EVER raped a Muslim woman in this nation... ONLY Muslims do that!!"

The onus is on Grap to produce the list of every Muslim woman raped in this country, and to then show that in every single case the perpetrator was a Muslim.

Over to you, Grap ...


I'm also interested in the first part of the statement.

I wonder if women are asked their religion before they are raped?

I wonder also, and have asked, what constitutes an "Australian" man.?
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Re: Christian 'Headship"
Reply #36 - Jul 20th, 2017 at 12:46pm
 
mothra wrote on Jul 20th, 2017 at 12:44pm:
I wonder if women are asked their religion before they are raped?


Or even after.

Grap's gonna need Rhino's shovel to dig himself out of this one.



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Re: Christian 'Headship"
Reply #37 - Jul 20th, 2017 at 12:48pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20th, 2017 at 12:46pm:
mothra wrote on Jul 20th, 2017 at 12:44pm:
I wonder if women are asked their religion before they are raped?


Or even after.

Grap's gonna need Rhino's shovel to dig himself out of this one.






FD is there to help. Don't forget that.

Perhaps one can shovel while the other shifts dirt?
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Re: Christian 'Headship"
Reply #38 - Jul 20th, 2017 at 12:58pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 20th, 2017 at 12:08pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 19th, 2017 at 11:41pm:
... wrote on Jul 19th, 2017 at 11:22pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 19th, 2017 at 10:54pm:
All the Christian sanctimonious Muslim bashers are in for a hit.





So whats in it for you?


It would be quite interesting to see those who rabbit on about how women are subjugated in Islam have to confront that even to this day, within Christianity, there is exactly the same 'subjugation.'


Can you explain how it is exactly the same? Is this based on your complete ignorance on the role of women in Islam?

mothra wrote on Jul 20th, 2017 at 11:29am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 20th, 2017 at 11:27am:
mothra wrote on Jul 20th, 2017 at 6:44am:
Raven wrote on Jul 20th, 2017 at 5:00am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 19th, 2017 at 11:54pm:
NO Aussie has EVER raped a Muslim woman in this nation... ONLY Muslims do that!!



Are you sure?



Jesus ... missed that gem of Grap's. I tend to skim his posts.

Well. he's said some stupid things but that is without doubt the stupidest.

A fore-runner for stupidest post on this forum ever, in fact.


So you would like to present some facts to support your idea that this is a nonsense comment?

WHERE is this massive list of Muslim women raped by Aussie men?

Or are you content to rest with Ad Hominem  ?

(feminism - two peoples separated by a common sandwich)....



The onus is on you.

No Aussie (whatever that means) has ever raped a Muslim woman.

The floor is yours.



Now there's a surprise, Mothra falling back to the hysterical and non-sensical. And all the apologists turn up to repeat it, oblivious to any need to make sense. You can't prove a negative Mothra. On the other hand you would only have to produce a single example to disprove the claim.


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Re: Christian 'Headship"
Reply #39 - Jul 20th, 2017 at 12:59pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20th, 2017 at 12:42pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 20th, 2017 at 12:08pm:
You can't prove a negative Mothra.


It's not about proving a negative.

Focus on the second part of his ridiculous statement.

"NO Aussie has EVER raped a Muslim woman in this nation... ONLY Muslims do that!!"

The onus is on Grap to produce the list of every Muslim woman raped in this country, and to then show that in every single case the perpetrator was a Muslim.

Over to you, Grap ...


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Re: Christian 'Headship"
Reply #40 - Jul 20th, 2017 at 1:02pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20th, 2017 at 12:59pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20th, 2017 at 12:42pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 20th, 2017 at 12:08pm:
You can't prove a negative Mothra.


It's not about proving a negative.

Focus on the second part of his ridiculous statement.

"NO Aussie has EVER raped a Muslim woman in this nation... ONLY Muslims do that!!"

The onus is on Grap to produce the list of every Muslim woman raped in this country, and to then show that in every single case the perpetrator was a Muslim.

Over to you, Grap ...


Grap?    Undecided




I've been asking for a while now.

If you ask me, he should have simply retracted the statement.

It;s a no win situation.

FD's input is deeply hilarious though.
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Re: Christian 'Headship"
Reply #41 - Jul 20th, 2017 at 1:04pm
 
Just in line with my comment on rape of Muslim women etc, and the way it was handled by some - the same applies to every issue I've ever asked of those who claim some Muslim oppression here - I've asked for facts on gangs running around attacking Muslims, where are they refused a vote, where are they refused jobs and education, where are they refused right of association, where are they restricted in their movement within this nation.. and so on ad infinitum.

The same old response applies - deafening silence filled out with ad hominem hyperbole signifying nothing.....

This is what discussion in this country has descended to over the past forty years or so....
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Reply #42 - Jul 20th, 2017 at 1:07pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 20th, 2017 at 1:04pm:
Just in line with my comment on rape of Muslim women etc, and the way it was handled by some - the same applies to every issue I've ever asked of those who claim some Muslim oppression here - I've asked for facts on gangs running around attacking Muslims, where are they refused a vote, where are they refused jobs and education, where are they refused right of association, where are they restricted in their movement within this nation.. and so on ad infinitum.

The same old response applies - deafening silence filled out with ad hominem hyperbole signifying nothing.....

This is what discussion in this country has descended to over the past forty years or so....


Come on Mr Grappler......let's see that list of rapists and their victims including the religion of each.
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Reply #43 - Jul 20th, 2017 at 1:08pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 20th, 2017 at 1:04pm:
Just in line with my comment on rape of Muslim women etc, and the way it was handled by some - the same applies to every issue I've ever asked of those who claim some Muslim oppression here - I've asked for facts on gangs running around attacking Muslims, where are they refused a vote, where are they refused jobs and education, where are they refused right of association, where are they restricted in their movement within this nation.. and so on ad infinitum.

The same old response applies - deafening silence filled out with ad hominem hyperbole signifying nothing.....

This is what discussion in this country has descended to over the past forty years or so....


So ... because no Muslim woman has ever said to you, on one of your truth seeking quests, that they were raped by an "Aussie", you have assumed that no Muslim women have ever been raped by an "Aussie"?

You see no flaws there?

And can i ask again, what constitutes an "Aussie"?
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Reply #44 - Jul 20th, 2017 at 1:19pm
 
Google this - comes up dry....

"rape of muslim women by non-muslim australians"

It does show the Sydney gang rapes as first port of call though - perpetrated by Muslims...

Just not a word about any Muslim woman raped by a non-Muslim...
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