freediver wrote on Jul 16
th, 2017 at 9:14pm:
In a discussion about all the stupid things Yassmin Abdel-Magied has been sprouting lately:
John Smith wrote on Jul 16
th, 2017 at 8:57pm:
Unlike you, I don't think of her at all FD. I have neither respect for her and her opinions, nor do I disrespect her. As far as I am concerned she is an non entity.
I do however respect her right to voice her opinions without being personally vilified for them. Agree with her, disagree with her I really don't care. But debate the argument, not the person
John is it disrespectful to label her a non-entity?
How stupid is she allowed to get before we can call her an idiot?
Here it is again John. The opening post. So far all we have is you backpeddling in response, saying you didn't really mean it, but also saying you did mean what you said. Then doing an elaborate tapdance to avoid the issue.
Have you figured out what you really meant yet John?
Quote:what sort of stupidity is that? I'm no more muslim than you. That doesn't make my point any less valid
Yes it does. It makes your point invalid. This is what you said:
Quote:Tell me, why is it only stupid comments from muslims that warrant comments from you?
Yet here you are, apparently a non Muslim, saying stupid things, and here I am, commenting in response.
Quote:Face it FD, for you anything short of frothing at the mouth over ISlam is ignorance.
You said you don't give a sh1t John. You are willfully ignorant. You are hostile to the truth, so you can replace it with an idiotic fantasy about it all being cause by Islamophobia.
Quote:what she got was far beyond criticsm. You allow criticism on here FD? And yet, I bet if I put up the 'criticism' she received and directed it to Lisa you'd ban me for another month
Is this you attempting to redefine freedom of speech again John? Are you going to backpeddle this time and go all floppy and forget what you were talking about?
Quote:Not as ignorant as you FD. No one who calls demands that one kills themselves or deserves to be raped 'criticism' should ever play the ignorance card
This is what you said John:
John Smith wrote on Jul 16
th, 2017 at 1:52pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 16
th, 2017 at 1:43pm:
So people standing up for ANZAC day is now Islamophobia?
Why weren't they standing up for Anzac day every other time someone used it to further their agenda?
they're just as guilty of using Anzac day to further their own Islamophobic ideology as she is of using Anzac day to further her cause. Yet you only see fit to criticise one.
You literally argued that your own ignorance about whether they criticise others for disrespecting ANZAC day makes them Isalmophobes. You said that standing up for ANZAC day in response to Yassmin's disrespect is Islamophobia. Are you running away from that now? You also accused me of Islamophobia, yet I said none of those things. How far will you backpedal?
Oh look, here's more - Islamophobia everywhere, hey John?
John Smith wrote on Jul 16
th, 2017 at 12:20pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 16
th, 2017 at 12:11pm:
Smithy I haven't read any comments calling for Magied to be murdered or raped.
Not saying that some whackos haven't posted that shyte on a social media forum somewhere.
And Devine as a conservative would have opinions that I probably wouldn't like .....
just like I don't like Yassmins.
I'm not saying you have to like her, i'm not even sure I like her. What i don't agree with is the way she's been treated.
Stuart Roberts used anzac day to attack labors policy on negative gearing. I didn't see the numbnuts here going on about for 3 hours, let alone 3 months.
Right wingers used anzac day to attack Anne Aly, I don't even recall anyone here mentioning it, let alone carrying on about it for months
The conservative right seems to have no problem using Anzac day when it suits them, they only have a problem if anyone else dares say something on Anzac day ..
John Smith wrote on Jul 16
th, 2017 at 1:39pm:
why shouldn't i call out blatant Islamaphobia when I see it? Much better I shut up and leave them to it?
You might prefer it that way, but I don't.
And oh look, here is John reveling in his own ignorance about why everyone suddenly turned on Yassmin:
John Smith wrote on Jul 16
th, 2017 at 8:57pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 16
th, 2017 at 8:12pm:
That is what really destroyed her reputation, and it is no wonder you will not touch it with a ten foot pole. Just keep chanting to yourself that it is only about Islamophobia and the ANZAC tweet.
that's because I don't give a sh1t what she said about feminism. I didn't really see where she was coming from but then again, I'm not an Islamic woman. Who are you to decide how she should feel about being an Islamic woman?
What's that you say? Feminism? Misusing public funds? Foreign adventure tours? We can't have that. The only reason people criticise Yassmin is Islamophobia....