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Reply #30 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 7:46pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 7:42pm:
Oh and ummm you're banned all the time and from everywhere you post "John".


I'm here lisa .... talking to FD . How can I be banned?
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Reply #31 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 7:48pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 9:20pm:
haven't you got some rule about using members names in thread titles FD?

how do you expect anyone else to  follow your rules when you don't. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


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Reply #32 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 7:50pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 7:48pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 9:20pm:
haven't you got some rule about using members names in thread titles FD?

how do you expect anyone else to  follow your rules when you don't. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


That was Aussie  Grin


really dopey? then please explain why did FD removed my name as soon as I reminded him of his rule? Was he worried aussie might ban him?

not the sharpest tool are you. But a tool nevertheless.
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Reply #33 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 7:51pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 7:46pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 7:42pm:
Oh and ummm you're banned all the time and from everywhere you post "John".


I'm here lisa .... talking to FD . How can I be banned?


No you're not. You're just machine gunning posts to yourself.

FD et al are LAUGHING AT YOU  Shocked Grin
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Reply #34 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 7:53pm
 
The Mechanic wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 9:20pm:
John smith.. the forums political retard... is not the sharpest tool in the shed...  Roll Eyes


Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Re: redefining freedom of speech
Reply #35 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 7:53pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 7:51pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 7:46pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 7:42pm:
Oh and ummm you're banned all the time and from everywhere you post "John".


I'm here lisa .... talking to FD . How can I be banned?


No you're not. You're just machine gunning posts to yourself.

FD et al are LAUGHING AT YOU  Shocked Grin



shouldn't you answer your door?
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Reply #36 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 7:56pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 7:31pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 7:27pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 6:31pm:
Can you put a name on it, if it is not criticism?



would you call comments like
'kill yourself'
'please stop breathing'
'be good when you announce you have cancer'
'filthy dog'
'poo slag'
'I'd run her over'
what about calls for her to return to where she came from to be raped or heheaded?


I think we passed the point of 'criticism' long ago, right FD? Cheesy Cheesy


Ahem

FD...you might like to ask if he's biologcally related to the person making these comments.

Why?

He makes the very same comments online.

Hence why he's currently banned everywhere.

Just a heads up
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Reply #37 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 7:58pm
 

why FD allows trolling from you I'll never know. He should have banned you permanently a long time ago.
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Reply #38 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 8:07pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 7:35pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 6:38pm:
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FD you are reasoning with your pet rock called Gino Smidt.

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wow frank, I'm not sure how FD ever managed without your dumb contribution. I'm sure he'll be ever so grateful that you were able to share your wisdom. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


We all are, JS, we all are.
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Reply #39 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 8:48pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 9:14pm:
In a discussion about all the stupid things Yassmin Abdel-Magied has been sprouting lately:

John Smith wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 8:57pm:
Unlike you, I don't think of her at all FD. I have neither respect for her and her opinions, nor do I disrespect her. As far as I am concerned she is an non entity.

I do however respect her right to voice her opinions without being personally vilified for them. Agree with her, disagree with her I really don't care. But debate the argument, not the person


John is it disrespectful to label her a non-entity?

How stupid is she allowed to get before we can call her an idiot?


Here it is again John. The opening post. So far all we have is you backpeddling in response, saying you didn't really mean it, but also saying you did mean what you said. Then doing an elaborate tapdance to avoid the issue.

Have you figured out what you really meant yet John?

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what sort of stupidity is that? I'm no more muslim than you. That doesn't make my point any less valid


Yes it does. It makes your point invalid. This is what you said:

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Tell me, why is it only stupid comments from muslims that warrant comments from you?


Yet here you are, apparently a non Muslim, saying stupid things, and here I am, commenting in response.

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Face it FD, for you anything short of frothing at the mouth over ISlam is ignorance.


You said you don't give a sh1t John. You are willfully ignorant. You are hostile to the truth, so you can replace it with an idiotic fantasy about it all being cause by Islamophobia.

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what she got was far beyond criticsm. You allow criticism on here FD? And yet, I bet if I put up the 'criticism' she received and directed it to Lisa you'd ban me for another month


Is this you attempting to redefine freedom of speech again John? Are you going to backpeddle this time and go all floppy and forget what you were talking about?

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Not as ignorant as you FD. No one who calls demands that one kills themselves or deserves to be raped 'criticism' should ever play the ignorance card


This is what you said John:

John Smith wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 1:52pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 1:43pm:
So people standing up for ANZAC day is now Islamophobia?


Why weren't they standing up for Anzac day every other time someone used it to further their agenda?
they're just as guilty of using Anzac day to further their own Islamophobic ideology as she is of using Anzac day to further her cause. Yet you only see fit to criticise one.


You literally argued that your own ignorance about whether they criticise others for disrespecting ANZAC day makes them Isalmophobes. You said that standing up for ANZAC day in response to Yassmin's disrespect is Islamophobia. Are you running away from that now? You also accused me of Islamophobia, yet I said none of those things. How far will you backpedal?

Oh look, here's more - Islamophobia everywhere, hey John?

John Smith wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 12:20pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 12:11pm:
Smithy I haven't read any comments calling for Magied to be murdered or raped.

Not saying that some whackos haven't posted that shyte on a social media forum somewhere.

And Devine as a conservative would have opinions that I probably wouldn't like .....

just like I don't like Yassmins.


I'm not saying you have to like her, i'm not even sure I like her. What i don't agree with is the way she's been treated.
Stuart Roberts used anzac day to attack labors policy on negative gearing. I didn't see the numbnuts here going on about for 3 hours, let alone 3 months.
Right wingers used anzac day to attack Anne Aly, I don't even recall anyone here mentioning it, let alone carrying on about it for months

The conservative right seems to have no problem using Anzac day when it suits them, they only have a problem if anyone else dares say something on Anzac day ..


John Smith wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 1:39pm:
why shouldn't i call out blatant Islamaphobia when I see it? Much better I shut up and leave them to it?

You might prefer it that way, but I don't.


And oh look, here is John reveling in his own ignorance about why everyone suddenly turned on Yassmin:

John Smith wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 8:57pm:
freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 8:12pm:
That is what really destroyed her reputation, and it is no wonder you will not touch it with a ten foot pole. Just keep chanting to  yourself that it is only about Islamophobia and the ANZAC tweet.


that's because I don't give a sh1t what she said about feminism. I didn't really see where she was coming from but then again, I'm not an Islamic woman. Who are you to decide how she should feel about being an Islamic woman?


What's that you say? Feminism? Misusing public funds? Foreign adventure tours? We can't have that. The only reason people criticise Yassmin is Islamophobia....
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Reply #40 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 8:59pm
 
All based on Islamophobia...

John Smith wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 3:57pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 12:29pm:
No more droll than your overuse of "Islamaphobia".



Except mine is based on fact, yours on fantasy.



John Smith wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 10:21am:
A. I didn't invent anything, you have a long and recorded history of Islamaphobia


John Smith wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 4:12pm:
nothing silly about calling out islamaphobia FD.

If it looks and acts and sounds like an islamaphobe, I'm going to call it an Islamaphobe


John Smith wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 4:12pm:
see, you trying to relate cartoonist in europe with her shows exactly why I think your an islamaphobe. Criticise (not vilify) her for what she did or said, not for something she had no more to do with than you.


John Smith wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 1:52pm:
Why weren't they standing up for Anzac day every other time someone used it to further their agenda?
they're just as guilty of using Anzac day to further their own Islamophobic ideology as she is of using Anzac day to

freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 1:43pm:
What about womens rights? Is that also Islamophobia now?

yes, you haven't used that one is a while FD, It's time you bought it back out

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Reply #41 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 9:23pm
 
Is this where we repeat ourselves for the third time?  Grin Grin Grin

Good try FD. Better luck next time.


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Reply #42 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 9:40pm
 
Let's try contradicting ourselves three times. John Smith goes first:

John Smith wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 8:57pm:
Unlike you, I don't think of her at all FD. I have neither respect for her and her opinions, nor do I disrespect her. As far as I am concerned she is an non entity.

I do however respect her right to voice her opinions without being personally vilified for them. Agree with her, disagree with her I really don't care. But debate the argument, not the person


John Smith wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 9:22pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 9:20pm:
He did not mean what you have taken it to mean.


FD knows that, but if FD isn't pretending I said something different to what i said, he wouldn't be able to argue his point.


John Smith wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 10:21am:
freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 9:54pm:
Is anyone willing to hazard a guess at what John really meant?

no need to guess, it's all there in black and white.


So, did you really mean what you said John? Does she have the right to say stupid things without being criticised for it? Does that mean we do not have the right to discuss whether she really is an idiot?
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Reply #43 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 11:09pm
 
well done FD. More of your usual tripe

I noticed you didn't bother quoting my other comment, here, I'll put it up for you again



John Smith wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 7:27pm:
would you call comments like
'kill yourself'
'please stop breathing'
'be good when you announce you have cancer'
'filthy dog'
'poo slag'
'I'd run her over'
what about calls for her to return to where she came from to be raped or heheaded?

I think we passed the point of 'criticism' long ago, right FD? Cheesy Cheesy


Just criticism right FD?
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Reply #44 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 11:13pm
 
This is more than his usual tripe. FD's had some kind of turn.

He's lost it. What on earth did you say to him, JS?
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