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Jul 16th, 2017 at 8:56pm
 
Wind Power Disaster in Australia Leads to Impending Economic Crisis




we're ******....

unless there's a massive change in Policy Australia is heading to a massive economic crisis due to the idiocy of chasing the GW unicorn...

ffs,,, how stupid could we be??
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Reply #1 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 9:07pm
 
We need more renewable energy to lower emissions AND electricity costs. Nuclear as backup would be good.
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Reply #2 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 9:09pm
 
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While the war on coal is working, reducing coal generation and consumption and associated carbon dioxide emissions here in the United States, many world economies are looking towards coal for future generation needs. China, India, Russia, and Germany, to name a few, are building coal-fired power plants. Worldwide coal plant construction grew 5.4 percent over the past year and now represents about 30 percent of installed capacity.

According to the World Resources Institute, almost 1,200 coal-fired power plants are in the planning stages (a capacity of 1.4 million megawatts) and over three-quarters of them are to be built in China and India, where over 500,000 megawatts each are currently planned for construction.[i]  (See chart below.)


so what difference would it make if we built one in every state and we used OUR OWN Coal??
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Reply #3 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 9:11pm
 
we're approaching a energy crisis alright, but it's nothing to do with windmills. It's the lack of long term direction from the government.

No one is going to invest hundreds of millions that will take at least a decade to recoup, while the risk is high that the next government will come along and change everything.

Turnbull has a chance to get bipartisanship, he's to gutless to take it. Scared the conservatives in his party will boot him again.

meanwhile the idiots will keep going on about windmills. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #4 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 9:12pm
 
Not windmills, John, get the terminology right, it is “windymills” don’t you know anything??


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Reply #5 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 9:19pm
 
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The construction of a new high-efficiency, low emissions coal-fired power station, being considered by the Turnbull government,
would cost $2.2 billion — considerably less than the $3bn of subsidies handed out to renewable projects each year, a new technical study shows
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With Australians facing further hikes in their electricity and gas bills following moves by ­energy companies over the weekend to increase bills by up to 20 per cent, Malcolm Turnbull is under pressure to deliver relief for households, small businesses and manufacturers.

New analysis, compiled by power and energy sector specialists GHD and Solstice Development Services, reveals it would cost $2.2bn to build a 1000MW ultra-supercritical (USC) coal-power plant and that it would ­deliver the cheapest electricity on the market.

The HELE coal plant, which the Turnbull government has not ruled out funding, would produce electricity at $40-$78 per megawatt hour, compared with gas at $69-$115/MWh and solar at $90-$171. The 550-page technical study, commissioned by the Minerals Council of Australia and the COAL21 Fund, reveals that clean-coal plants would drive down energy­ prices, and offers the Prime Minister an economic blueprint on the viability of new coal-fired ­stations.

It comes just four months after it was revealed taxpayer subsidies to meet state and federal renewable energy ­targets reached $3bn in the 2015-16 financial year, with about 75 per cent of the cost being collected from consumers paying extra in their electricity bills.


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The overall cost of subsidising ­renewable energy generation has nearly doubled since 2011, and the RET continues to be a political headache for the Turnbull government.

It is sticking to the 23.5 per cent target by 2020, despite calls by former prime minister Tony Abbott­, who was ­involved in ­establishing the RET, to freeze it at the current rate of 15 per cent — a move he says would dramatically lower power bills.

COAL21 chief executive Greg Evans, who is also an executive ­director of the Minerals Council, said the report showed that HELE coal plants, which would have “operating lives of several decades­”, were viable and affordable options to replace the ­nation’s ageing coal-fired power stations. “

The report confirms that USC coal generation can deliver­ on the priorities of affordability, reliability and low emissions,” he said,
adding that coal-fired generation remained the “cheapest and most reliable energy­ source in Australia, available 24 hours a day, every day”.


2.2 Billion?

meanwhile... here in Victoria we built a worthless desal plant costing over 25 Billion...  Angry
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Reply #6 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 9:20pm
 
No coal fired generator is “low emissions.”
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Reply #7 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 12:37pm
 
Then neither is your car ...... bought a Tesla have you?
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Reply #8 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 12:49pm
 
The Mechanic wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 8:56pm:
Wind Power Disaster in Australia Leads to Impending Economic Crisis




we're ******....

unless there's a massive change in Policy Australia is heading to a massive economic crisis due to the idiocy of chasing the GW unicorn...

ffs,,, how stupid could we be??



You're quoting a youtube video from some Yank as evidence?
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Reply #9 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 2:47pm
 
Renewable Energy will never ever deliver the kind of power generation that Coal will

We are going to be sent to the wall paying incredible prices for this crappy level of electricity so called renewable supply

Time for the Government to stop listening to the Balmain basket weavers and get real

There are already people out there who are too frightened to turn on the heating so they sit there with blankets wrapped around them

Is this good enough for a Country like ours?

I don't think so.....
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Reply #10 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 5:19pm
 


Well I think technology will deliver us renewables in the future.

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Reply #11 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 5:21pm
 
red baron wrote on Jul 17th, 2017 at 2:47pm:
Renewable Energy will never ever deliver the kind of power generation that Coal will

We are going to be sent to the wall paying incredible prices for this crappy level of electricity so called renewable supply

Time for the Government to stop listening to the Balmain basket weavers and get real

There are already people out there who are too frightened to turn on the heating so they sit there with blankets wrapped around them

Is this good enough for a Country like ours?

I don't think so.....


And what if food 🥘 prices skyrocket on top of the huge power bills 💵 that are about to hit???

Tomatoes 🍅 have been short lately due to the cold season we had.etc and prices doubled .. what if that keeps happening during this solar minimum that we are about to enter... or just starting to enter with crops all over the world 🌎 being affected??
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Reply #12 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 6:45pm
 
Yes, we are entering a solar minimum. We enter one every 11 years.

Tomatoes are not a winter plant. Buy, eat local and seasonal.

The sun has been quiescent since the 1980s yet the globe has warmed.

David Dubyne is a professional liar.
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Reply #13 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 7:06pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 9:07pm:
We need more renewable energy to lower emissions AND electricity costs.



Doesn't seem to be working in Germany.
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Reply #14 - Jul 17th, 2017 at 7:19pm
 
Link?
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