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Reply #60 - Jul 18th, 2017 at 12:56pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 18th, 2017 at 12:43pm:
5. Why are sea levels rising? In an Ice Age sea levels fall. But tide gauge and satellite data confirms sea levels are rising and at an increased rate.


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Why was the acceleration higher 1930-1960, before AGW?

"Both observations  and  models  have  a  maximum  rate  of  rise  in  the  1930–1950  period, a minimum rate in the 1960s and a maximum rate over the last two decades (Figure 13.7b)."

https://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar5/wg1/WG1AR5_Chapter13_FINAL.pdf
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Reply #61 - Jul 18th, 2017 at 1:01pm
 
Or perhaps you like this

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Reply #62 - Jul 18th, 2017 at 1:10pm
 
So there was a pause but now sealevels are rising faster than recorded previously?

They are now rising at 3.3mm a year.

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Reply #63 - Jul 18th, 2017 at 1:31pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 18th, 2017 at 1:10pm:
So there was a pause but now sealevels are rising faster than recorded previously?


Not distinguishable from 1930 -1960. Why is that? Natural variation? Wink

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 18th, 2017 at 1:10pm:
They are now rising at 3.3mm a year.


Only in the satellite data. Remember Jason 2?

"Sea surface height accuracy is currently 3.4 centimetres, with 2.5 expected in the future."

https://www.eumetsat.int/jason/print.htm#page_1.3.0

So they are using a satellite "data" that has errors more than 10 times more than the measured "data". Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #64 - Jul 18th, 2017 at 1:56pm
 
I remember a paper I posted caused you to don the brown underpants. Talking about the acceleration in sea level rise. You then posted some unrelated paper, dunno why.

It is obvious AGW started some time in the 18th or 19th centuries. There is natural variation in the various readings—we know the combination of the PDO and ADO that saw a reduction in Arctice sea ice. When that refroze we expect sea level rise would have reduce.

That is natural variation. The increase in temperatures, the acceleration of sea level rise is not natural, it is manmade, AGW.
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Reply #65 - Jul 18th, 2017 at 2:13pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 18th, 2017 at 1:56pm:
It is obvious AGW started some time in the 18th or 19th centuries. T



So you disagree with the IPCC and climate scientists?

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 18th, 2017 at 1:56pm:
the acceleration of sea level rise is not natural,



From 1930-1960? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #66 - Jul 18th, 2017 at 4:03pm
 
The acceleration of sea level rise is not natural. Greenland and Antarctica are shedding ice because of AGW.

This is all clear, kids doing fifth grade science can understand it. Why can’t you, Loser Lees?
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Reply #67 - Jul 18th, 2017 at 5:43pm
 
What about the early 20th century sea level rise? Stop hiding.
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Reply #68 - Jul 18th, 2017 at 6:07pm
 
You do agree Greenland and Antarctica are shedding ice?
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Reply #69 - Jul 18th, 2017 at 6:18pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 18th, 2017 at 6:07pm:
You do agree Greenland and Antarctica are shedding ice?



Greenland has until recently. The current melt season is putting shivers up the tails of the Alarmists.

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You do expect Greenland to lose ice in Summer?

Antarctica? Are you including Larsen C, which is not due to AGW? What is the net loss from Antarctica? The latest I see is some say losing some say gaining. I guess you only look for the loss side.
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Reply #70 - Jul 18th, 2017 at 6:41pm
 
That is still Greenland losing ice, from the top of the icesheet. We know it has lost a humungous amount of ice at sea level.

So now is Antarctica. So sea level rise is accelerating.
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Reply #71 - Jul 18th, 2017 at 6:46pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 18th, 2017 at 6:41pm:
That is still Greenland losing ice, from the top of the icesheet. We know it has lost a humungous amount of ice at sea level.



And less than normal. Doesn't sound like acceleration.

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 18th, 2017 at 6:41pm:
So now is Antarctica. So sea level rise is accelerating.



No citation I see. More "facts" from the JM Junk "fact" file.
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Reply #72 - Jul 18th, 2017 at 7:46pm
 
Plenty citations in the environment board, not my fault you run screaming away.

Thwaites Glacier, that goes, BOOM 1m sea level rise.
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Reply #73 - Jul 18th, 2017 at 8:30pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 18th, 2017 at 7:46pm:
Plenty citations in the environment board, not my fault you run screaming away.



You just forget the others

"NASA Study: Mass Gains of Antarctic Ice Sheet Greater than Losses"

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/nasa-study-mass-gains-of-antarctic-ice-shee...
Wink

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 18th, 2017 at 7:46pm:
Thwaites Glacier, that goes, BOOM 1m sea level rise.



Ah speculation. Got money on it?

"The melt rate of West Antarctica's Thwaites Glacier is an important concern, because this glacier alone is currently responsible for about 1 percent of global sea level rise. A new NASA study finds that Thwaites' ice loss will continue, but not quite as rapidly as previous studies have estimated."

"The glacier has the potential to add several inches to global sea levels."

https://phys.org/news/2017-06-thwaites-glacier-ice-loss-quickly.html#jCp

OHH, only inches. Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #74 - Jul 18th, 2017 at 9:22pm
 
Depends on the speed it collapses.
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