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Reply #15 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 7:10pm
 
All Climate Change Deniers will be held responsible for the disaster that is looming.

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Reply #16 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 7:13pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 6:51pm:
All week on ABC radio I've been hearing about the massive ice shelf that broke off the Antarctic mainland. What I didn't hear was the Antarctic ice shelf has been increasing over the last few years. So what is it? Cooling that theoretically caused the ice to increase or warming that caused the massive iceberg to break off?


the ice has been breaking records this year..

and now that its summer in the NH the ice breaks off...

like it is right now with all of the climate loons going into hysteria...  Cheesy
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Reply #17 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 7:14pm
 
Super Nova wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 7:10pm:
All Climate Change Deniers will be held responsible for the disaster that is looming.

Your place in history is assured.

http://denial.politifake.org/image/political/1503/climate-change-deniers-jesus-h...




dur....  Roll Eyes

when finkle was asked recently what effect it would have on the world if AustralIA went to 0% emissions ... he said...

none...
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Reply #18 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 7:16pm
 
Super Nova wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 7:10pm:
All Climate Change Deniers will be held responsible for the disaster that is looming.

Your place in history is assured.

http://denial.politifake.org/image/political/1503/climate-change-deniers-jesus-h...



Speaking for myself, I have zero belief in the return of any sky fairy. I do have questions about 'climate change' (or global warming as it's now called). Those questions don't seem to get a run in the hysterical left-media.
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Reply #19 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 7:18pm
 


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Did you think the first day of winter felt a little nippy? Well, if you were in Adelaide it wasn't all in your head because the city has shivered through its coldest start to the season


but Jackass Monk says its a ho hum... just an average winter here folks... dur.   Cheesy
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Reply #20 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 7:18pm
 
Super Nova wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 7:10pm:
All Climate Change Deniers will be held responsible for the disaster that is looming.



Who these people who deny climate changes?
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Reply #21 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 7:24pm
 
Mr Hammer,

Try this article is is one of the best explainations i have read for a while.

When Will The Planet Be Too Hot For Humans? Much, Much Sooner Than You Imagine.


http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/techandscience/when-will-the-planet-be-too-hot-for...
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Reply #22 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 7:34pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 1:09pm:
We still had most of the US above freezing instead of below it last NH winter.

The NH is still suffering heatwaves, extreme weather events and wildfires this NH summer.

We are still having a very mild winter.

I doubt all this will come to very much at all.

Greenland and the Antarctic are still contributing to sea level rise as is the thermal expansion of the heating oceans.

I will have a look at it but I bet this does not mean what The Moronic thinks it does.


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by Tom Saunders

Start chopping wood because you're going to need a bonfire to keep warm over southeast Australia this weekend. Temperatures will drop to near record levels at night, with a deep freeze engulfing inland parts of southern Queensland, NSW, Victoria, Tasmania and eastern SA. Here is a snapshot of the cold snap on Saturday morning:

The subzero temperatures will lead to widespread frost, which should develop even in the centre of the larger urban regions of Hobart and Melbourne - often protected from frost by the nearby sea and the build up of heat in roads and buildings during the day. For inland towns, especially along the ranges the temperatures will drop below -5C, cold enough to freeze the water in pipes. This will make plumbing non operational for a few hours early in the morning.



yes... very "mild" winter...  Roll Eyes
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Reply #23 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 7:35pm
 
How does AGW work?

A number of molecules present in the atmosphere that contain three atoms or more can absorb and re-emit infrared (IR) photons (think of them as rays of infra red light if you like.)

Some of the Greenhouse gases are:

H2O present as water vapor (clouds are not water vapor but collections of tiny droplets of water) H2 + O = 3 atoms

CO2 is present as a gas, unlike water vapor it doesn’t eventually precipitate out as rain etc. 3 atoms, see?

CH4, methane, also present as a gas. A much (30x) stronger GHG than CO2 but does get oxidised to CO2 and H2O so not present all the time. 5 atoms.

N2O, nitrous oxide. 200x as powerful a GHG as CO2. Hangs around for ever.

O3, ozone, 3 atoms of oxygen in an unstable molecule.

So what happens? Visible light from the sun (UV can be disregarded) hits the earth, some gets reflected some hits the surface, some gets reflected, some gets absorbed. A rock or a cement pavement that has been baking in the sun all day radiates heat at night—you can feel the warmth. Oceans absorb a lot of light, warming the water.

So, the earth radiates infrared. If it couldn’t do that—we would bake!

So imagine a ray (photon) of infrared heading out from the surface of the earth. It hits a molecule of a GHG. The molecule absorbs the photon which ‘excites’ the molecule meaning it vibrates and spins etc faster. The molecule can’t hold on to the photon for long so re-emits it. However, it could be pointing to the surface and sends the photon back down to the surface.

There are other molecules of GHG in the atmosphere, a photon could be absorbed and re-emitted several times, increasing the chance it heads back to the surface.

Now, this is not something I am spinning out of nothing. NASA has satellites studying the radiation from the earth. At the frequencies corresponding to the spectrum lines of the various GHGs there is less radiation than expected. Infrared radiation IS being trapped in the atmosphere, warming the globe.

AGW is a soundly based scientific theory.

You know it is happening:

1. Glaciers are retreating (bar a very few)

2. Greenland is losing like 200gigatons of ice a year

3. Arctic sea ice is thinning and decreasing in extent.

4. The Himalayan ice sheet is retreating—this may cause a second nuclear war between India and China.

5. We have seen Antarctica is losing more and more ice (tho East Antarctica is gaining ice West Antarctica is losing more than East Antarctica gains.


That is the story in a nutshell.
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The greenhouse effect has been demonstrated to be real. Ice is retreating and the world is warming.
 
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Reply #24 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 7:36pm
 
Australia has generally had a very mild winter.

Bits of frost here and there? Color me surprised, frost in winter? Tell me it ain’t so!  Cheesy
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Reply #25 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 7:37pm
 
AGW doesn’t mean we have hot winters and hellish summers. Just that we are moving in that direction.
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Reply #26 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 7:49pm
 
The Moronic and Boobhead believe the lies told by an oil seed salesman called David Dubyne.

I know hardly anyone watches the lying videos Dubyne makes and publishes on Youtube.

One of the lies will do as an illustration:

1. Dubyne said veges were being rationed in UK supermarkets because of his imaginary Ice Age. (this was early 2017.)

2. Dubyne lied. A Google search showed me that veges were rationed because the Murcia and Valencia parts of Spain that supplied 80% of Europes winter veges had been hit by so much rain the fields were unworkable.

Lies like this make up most of the videos. Bullshit makes up the balance.
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Reply #27 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 7:55pm
 
Greenland Coldest Temperature Ever Recorded in Northern Hemisphere in July



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Reply #28 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 7:56pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 16th, 2017 at 1:09pm:



We still had most of the US above freezing instead of below it last NH winter.
Link?

The NH is still suffering heatwaves, extreme weather events and wildfires this NH summer.
Link?


We are still having a very mild winter.
Link?

I doubt all this will come to very much at all.

Greenland and the Antarctic are still contributing to sea level rise as is the thermal expansion of the heating oceans.
Link?


I will have a look at it but I bet this does not mean what The Moronic thinks it does.
Ad hominem attack.
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Reply #29 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 8:02pm
 
I have linked all the above in the Environment board.

Nah, calling you Boobhead and mentioning The Moronic is purely descriptive.

Why don’t you mention all the times you called me fool, bloody fool and troll just because you could not refute any of the criticisms I made of the STUPID, LYING Dubyne videos?

NOBODY but you and The Moronic watches the stupid, lying videos.

Face it Boobhead, the world is warming, ice is melting just about everywhere!

I have explained the mechanism, you could not refute or rebut a letter of my explanation.

You are a homophobe longing for a major ice age to clean the world of poofs so you no longer have to fight against your urges.
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