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Reply #105 - Jul 20th, 2017 at 9:06pm
 
lee wrote on Jul 20th, 2017 at 8:36pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 20th, 2017 at 7:21pm:
Spectrometry. Greenhouse effect.

There, done.


You do know that doesn't prove AGW.


So tell us again how that greenhouse works. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

...you actually have to disprove in science: something lee refuses to acknowledge as fact!
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Reply #106 - Jul 20th, 2017 at 9:08pm
 
TheFunPolice wrote on Jul 20th, 2017 at 9:06pm:
.you actually have to disprove in science: something lee refuses to acknowledge as fact!



Yes, I do admit that. Now tell that to JM. Wink

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Reply #107 - Jul 20th, 2017 at 9:09pm
 
Higher temperatures mean drier vegetation and more lightning. And in a combination of scenarios involving computer models of atmospheric circulation and carbon emissions through the end of the century, scientists from Canada’s government and the University of Alberta found that would mean large increases in the number of fires “where existing suppression resources become ineffective.”
“They’re extreme fires that are uncontrollable, at least for a period of time,” said Mike Flannigan, a professor of wildland fire at the University of Alberta and a co-author of the new study.
Think of the 1.5 million-acre blaze that ripped into the Alberta city of Fort MacMurray in 2016, sending tens of thousands of people fleeing through smoke so thick they could barely see the roads. Or the quarter-million acre Rim Fire in northern California three years earlier. Or the swift-moving fires that killed more than a dozen people in Gatlinburg, Tennessee, in November — and more than 60 in Portugal in June. Once a fire reaches a certain intensity, firefighters can’t work on the ground, and even aircraft are little help.


source: https://www.seeker.com/earth/climate/uncontrollable-wildfires-could-double-in-ca...
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Reply #108 - Jul 20th, 2017 at 9:10pm
 
lee wrote on Jul 20th, 2017 at 9:08pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Jul 20th, 2017 at 9:06pm:
.you actually have to disprove in science: something lee refuses to acknowledge as fact!



Yes, I do admit that. Now tell that to JM. Wink

No you don't.... we all know that  Smiley
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Reply #109 - Jul 20th, 2017 at 9:12pm
 
TheFunPolice wrote on Jul 20th, 2017 at 9:10pm:
No you don't.... we all know that



Perhaps you should tell JM, in words of one syllable, the null hypothesis.
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Reply #110 - Jul 20th, 2017 at 9:14pm
 
TheFunPolice wrote on Jul 20th, 2017 at 9:09pm:
And in a combination of scenarios involving computer models of atmospheric circulation and carbon emissions through the end of the century, scientists from Canada’s government and the University of Alberta found that would mean large increases in the number of fires “where existing suppression resources become ineffective.”



Oh, Computer models. Wink

You do know faster computers just means the results come out faster. GIGO  Garbage In Garbage Out.

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Reply #111 - Jul 20th, 2017 at 9:17pm
 
Excellent post, DRAH!

Wildfires really have been increasing in frequency and size and wildfire seasons have been lengthening. Weird if we are in an Ice Age, logical if AGW is raising temperatures, drying out fields and forests etc.

There is another aspect of AGW is going to kick our butt. There may be two posts in the thread in Relationships on this aspect: it is that important.
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Reply #112 - Jul 20th, 2017 at 9:28pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 20th, 2017 at 9:17pm:
Wildfires really have been increasing in frequency and size and wildfire seasons have been lengthening.



Citation needed,

Not the CSIRO study that only studied from about 1970. The data goes back to 1925.
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Reply #113 - Jul 20th, 2017 at 9:36pm
 
All covered in Environment where you. . .covered it up.
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Reply #114 - Jul 20th, 2017 at 9:40pm
 
So idiotic, ooh, bai goom, we be in ice age we be!

So why is the Arctic sea ice decreasing in extent and thickness? No answer from any of the ice age drongoes.

Why is Antarctica sea and land ice reducing in extent?

Why is the Himalayan ice sheet reducing in extent?

Why is sea level still rising, even accelerating recently. Even The Moronic should be able to work out that in an ice age sea water gets locked up into ice and sea levels drop. They are rising, ever faster.

Why are there so many wildfires every summer? Why are wild fire seasons lengthening?

Fires in Aust & Chile last summer.

Fires in Portugal and Spain this NH summer. Also the US, Siberia, China etc.

Fires in West Canada:
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Australia is sending 50 firefighters and Canada is deploying military aircraft to battle rapidly spreading wildfires in British Columbia that have forced 39,000 people in the Canadian province from their homes.

Key points:

Canada's wildfires expected to worsen
Australian military sent two planes, five helicopters to help with evacuations and first responder transportation

British Columbia announced $100 million in emergency funds
Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale said the western province had made two requests to the Federal Government for military assistance to fight the fires, which were expected to worsen.

The military has sent two planes and five helicopters to help with evacuations and transportation for first responders, according to the Department of National Defence.


British Columbia chief fire information officer Kevin Skrepnek said the Australians were due to arrive on Wednesday.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-18/australia-to-send-firefighters-to-battle-w...

Only a brain damaged m0re on, congenital idiot or someone hopelessly lost in conspiracy theory thinking would think we are in an ice age now. The Dubyne videos are rubbish. Nobody has yet found that galactic cosmic rays cause clouds, etc. He lies too, all the bloody time: the fox was frozen by a farmer, not flash frozen in the Danube, veges were rationed in UK supermarkets early this year not because of a non-existent ice age but because of the fields of Murcia and Valencia in Spain, that grow 80% of Europes winter veges, had been hit with so much rain the fields were unworkable.

But I love Dubyne’s explanation for the very hot NH summer: the jetstream has been weakened and is meandering (due to AGW which the liar Dubyne did not say) and so allowed Arctic air into mid latitudes WARMING them!  Grin Grin Grin

Of course, liar Dubyne did not spell it out like that and the brainless sheep following him swallowed without a protest the thought of Arctic air, allowed into the mid latitudes by the meandering Jet Stream, causing a hot summer  Wink Loony toons!


So, maybe Loser Lees can restrain himself from posting more denialism and let the Mechanic and/or Sir Bobby speak? Both are on line, both have bored most of us shitless with crazy Ice Age crap. 500 videos and Booby can’t defend the ice age crap or answer a simple question about it.
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Re: MIT Researchers Slam Global Warming Data
Reply #115 - Jul 20th, 2017 at 9:40pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 20th, 2017 at 9:36pm:
All covered in Environment where you. . .covered it up.


Nope. I corrected you because you used the CSIRO study.
Why do you want to only use the data from 1973?
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Reply #116 - Jul 20th, 2017 at 9:42pm
 
So idiotic, ooh, bai goom, we be in ice age we be!

So why is the Arctic sea ice decreasing in extent and thickness? No answer from any of the ice age drongoes.

Why is Antarctica sea and land ice reducing in extent?

Why is the Himalayan ice sheet reducing in extent?

Why is sea level still rising, even accelerating recently. Even The Moronic should be able to work out that in an ice age sea water gets locked up into ice and sea levels drop. They are rising, ever faster.

Why are there so many wildfires every summer? Why are wild fire seasons lengthening?

Fires in Aust & Chile last summer.

Fires in Portugal and Spain this NH summer. Also the US, Siberia, China etc.

Fires in West Canada:
Quote:
Australia is sending 50 firefighters and Canada is deploying military aircraft to battle rapidly spreading wildfires in British Columbia that have forced 39,000 people in the Canadian province from their homes.

Key points:

Canada's wildfires expected to worsen
Australian military sent two planes, five helicopters to help with evacuations and first responder transportation

British Columbia announced $100 million in emergency funds
Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale said the western province had made two requests to the Federal Government for military assistance to fight the fires, which were expected to worsen.

The military has sent two planes and five helicopters to help with evacuations and transportation for first responders, according to the Department of National Defence.


British Columbia chief fire information officer Kevin Skrepnek said the Australians were due to arrive on Wednesday.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-18/australia-to-send-firefighters-to-battle-w...

Only a brain damaged m0re on, congenital idiot or someone hopelessly lost in conspiracy theory thinking would think we are in an ice age now. The Dubyne videos are rubbish. Nobody has yet found that galactic cosmic rays cause clouds, etc. He lies too, all the bloody time: the fox was frozen by a farmer, not flash frozen in the Danube, veges were rationed in UK supermarkets early this year not because of a non-existent ice age but because of the fields of Murcia and Valencia in Spain, that grow 80% of Europes winter veges, had been hit with so much rain the fields were unworkable.

But I love Dubyne’s explanation for the very hot NH summer: the jetstream has been weakened and is meandering (due to AGW which the liar Dubyne did not say) and so allowed Arctic air into mid latitudes WARMING them!  Grin Grin Grin

Of course, liar Dubyne did not spell it out like that and the brainless sheep following him swallowed without a protest the thought of Arctic air, allowed into the mid latitudes by the meandering Jet Stream, causing a hot summer  Wink Loony toons!


So, maybe Loser Lees can restrain himself from posting more denialism and let the Mechanic and/or Sir Bobby speak? Both are on line, both have bored most of us shitless with crazy Ice Age crap. 500 videos and Booby can’t defend the ice age crap or answer a simple question about it.
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Reply #117 - Jul 20th, 2017 at 10:01pm
 
Still trying to get your bullshit story across?

"Research into the economic impacts from natural disasters now spans many parts of the world. What is evident from studies to date is an increasing trend in the cost of natural disasters over time. The main drivers of the increasing trend are demonstrably socio-economic factors. No study has yet been able to detect an anthropogenic climate change influence. Anyone asserting the contrary now has a mountain of peer-reviewed literature to climb over."

"Senate Standing Committee on
Environment & Communications"

"sub09_1.pdf"

"Professor John McAneney is the Director of Risk Frontiers and a Professorial Fellow in the Department of Geography and Environment at Macquarie University. Ryan Crompton is a
Catastrophe Risk Scientist with Risk Frontiers."

From 2013
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Reply #119 - Jul 20th, 2017 at 10:17pm
 
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A new analysis of 35 years of meteorological data confirms fire seasons have become longer. Fire season, which varies in timing and duration based on location, is defined as the time of year when wildfires are most likely to ignite, spread, and affect resources.

In the map above, areas where the fire season lengthened between 1979 and 2014 are shown with shades of orange and red. Areas where the length of the fire season stayed the same are yellow. Shades of blue show where the fire season grew shorter. Gray indicates that there was not enough vegetation to sustain wildfires.

The analysis, led by U.S. Forest Service ecologist Matt Jolly, focused on four meteorological variables that affect the length of fire season: maximum temperatures, minimum relative humidity, the number of rain-free days, and maximum wind speeds. A combination of high temperatures, low humidity, rainless days, and high winds make wildfires more likely to spread and lengthens fire seasons. Jolly and colleagues used data from NOAA’s National Center for Environmental Prediction Reanalysis, NOAA’s NCEP-DOE Reanalysis, and the European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts Interim Reanalysis.

The researchers found that fire weather seasons have lengthened across one quarter of Earth’s vegetated surface. In certain areas, extending the fire season by a bit each year added up to a large change over the full study period. For instance, parts of the western United States and Mexico, Brazil, and East Africa now face wildfire seasons that are more than a month longer than they were 35 years ago.

The authors attribute the longer season in the western United States to changes in the timing of snowmelt, vapor pressure, and the timing of spring rains—all of which have been linked to global warming and climate change. On the other hand, the easing of droughts in Western Africa and the Pacific coast of South America likely contributed to the shortening of fire seasons in those areas.

In some parts of the world, tough fire seasons have also become more frequent. “The map at the top of the page depicts steady trends in season length, while the map below shows changes in variability,” explained Jolly. “In other words, the map below shows where long seasons are becoming more frequent, even if they aren’t becoming steadily longer.”
While many of the same areas that saw fire seasons grow progressively longer also faced more frequent fires seasons, the two measures differed significantly in some areas. Australia, for instance, has not experienced an increase in the length of fire seasons. However, eastern Australia has seen the years with long and severe fire seasons become more frequent.

Overall, 54 percent of the world’s vegetated surfaces experienced long fire weather seasons more frequently between 1996 and 2013 as compared with 1979-1996, according to Jolly. This amounted to a doubling in the total global burnable area affected by long fire weather seasons. (For this calculation, “long fire season” was defined as a length that was one standard deviation above the historical mean.)


https://visibleearth.nasa.gov/view.php?id=86268

Wildfire seasons lengthening, fires getting bigger.

Sea level rising ever faster.

Something else, too.
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