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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #105 - Jul 15th, 2017 at 8:32am
 
This issue is a matter of great moment for Karnage, as are all assaults on his evil empire.
A threat to the Islamic prison uniform is a threat to his continued domination of women. A right and belief he holds dearly, for his sins.
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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #106 - Jul 15th, 2017 at 8:56am
 
Frank wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 11:48pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 2:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 11:28am:
Frank wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 11:22am:
mothra wrote on Jul 13th, 2017 at 7:49pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13th, 2017 at 7:47pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 13th, 2017 at 7:31pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13th, 2017 at 6:44pm:

Medical. Not ideological, Turdy McTurdface.


Hold on a minute, bucko.

You and your fellow Islamophobes frequently cite "security reasons" for banning Islamic face coverings.

Those burns masks cover the entire face, and there's no way of  knowing who's under there.

Why doesn't that concern you?




The same could be said of how much make-up some women wear. They are completely unrecognisable from their natural faces.



Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
So the niqab is now no different to being a burn victim or wearing make up.





How do you know that someone wearing a surgical face mask is a burns victim?



Frank?


How big is the 'walkin' around in surgical masks for the heck of it' community, Turdy?


Do you know ANYONE?




How do you know that someone wearing a surgical face mask is a burns victim?
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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #107 - Jul 15th, 2017 at 3:14pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 12:33am:
Aussie wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 3:48pm:
Black Orchid wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 11:25am:
Frank wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 11:13am:
If they do not accept Australian social norms in Australia, why do I have to accept Islamic social norms in Australia?


Excellent and very logical point that will not be answered.


Yes it will.  You don't, Sore End.  You are free to whinge about it as much as you like.  And others are free to describe you as what you are for doing so.

So refusal to deal with niqabis is OK by you, Arsie?

There is hope for you yet.



Yes.  Provided security is not compromised I could not care less who wears what.
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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #108 - Jul 15th, 2017 at 3:23pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 3:14pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 12:33am:
Aussie wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 3:48pm:
Black Orchid wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 11:25am:
Frank wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 11:13am:
If they do not accept Australian social norms in Australia, why do I have to accept Islamic social norms in Australia?


Excellent and very logical point that will not be answered.


Yes it will.  You don't, Sore End.  You are free to whinge about it as much as you like.  And others are free to describe you as what you are for doing so.

So refusal to deal with niqabis is OK by you, Arsie?

There is hope for you yet.



Yes.  Provided security is not compromised I could not care less who wears what.

You are beating around the bush aussie, burkas are evil looking things, how can they be taken otherwise, they are black for a start and don't give of a very good vibe.
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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #109 - Jul 15th, 2017 at 4:29pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 3:14pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 12:33am:
Aussie wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 3:48pm:
Black Orchid wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 11:25am:
Frank wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 11:13am:
If they do not accept Australian social norms in Australia, why do I have to accept Islamic social norms in Australia?


Excellent and very logical point that will not be answered.


Yes it will.  You don't, Sore End.  You are free to whinge about it as much as you like.  And others are free to describe you as what you are for doing so.

So refusal to deal with niqabis is OK by you, Arsie?

There is hope for you yet.



Yes.  Provided security is not compromised I could not care less who wears what.

Very well, let them wear the niqab - and let others also let them know how what they think about it, including refusal to engage with them.  Freedom must go both way.



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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #110 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 2:42am
 
Frank wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 4:29pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 3:14pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 15th, 2017 at 12:33am:
Aussie wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 3:48pm:
Black Orchid wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 11:25am:
Frank wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 11:13am:
If they do not accept Australian social norms in Australia, why do I have to accept Islamic social norms in Australia?


Excellent and very logical point that will not be answered.


Yes it will.  You don't, Sore End.  You are free to whinge about it as much as you like.  And others are free to describe you as what you are for doing so.

So refusal to deal with niqabis is OK by you, Arsie?

There is hope for you yet.



Yes.  Provided security is not compromised I could not care less who wears what.

Very well, let them wear the niqab - and let others also let them know how what they think about it, including refusal to engage with them.  Freedom must go both way.





Exactly. If they cover their heads, why shouldn't you have your way with them? They are, in fact, inviting it.

Most ethical, old boy. University of Balogney, wasn't it?

You read Voltaire, no?
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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #111 - Jul 19th, 2017 at 11:21am
 
Obscene, Not Religious


The European Court of Human Rights declares laws banning full covering for women to be permissible — and that is good.

by Christian Ortner

Is it permissible in a liberal democracy for the state to legally stipulate how women are to dress — and especially how not to dress — in public? Under certain circumstances, absolutely, decided the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg the week, thereby confirming the Belgian state’s right to criminalize full veiling of women in public. A Muslim woman had entered a complaint against this 2011 law and was rejected by the highest European court.

This has relevance for Austria too. A very similar regulation, forbidding especially wearing the niqab and the (less frequently seen) burka, goes into effect here on October 1st. The chances that this law will be nullified by the European Court are therefore next to nil. And that is good.

The sight of a woman more or less compulsorily fully veiled is nothing less than obscene. It is a good thing for legislators to put end to this obscenity, at least in public. Even though liberals must naturally respect the right of every person to decide how he or she will dress. That is, in and of itself, of no interest to the state, like so much else.

In the case of full veiling, or course, we are dealing not only with clothing, but above all with a symbol of a fascistic, violence-prone and deeply misogynistic ideology, i.e., political Islam in a particularly radical manifestation. The niqab and burka belong to a nasty ideology, as SS uniforms belong to National Socialism. Both are a political statement, if not a profession of loyalty.

There is good reason that it is forbidden here to saunter through the Kohlmarkt[1] in an SS uniform; and with equally good reason, it should be forbidden to symbolically occupy the public space with the vestments of Islamism.

Symbols of the Islamic State are likewise banned. The argument that this contravenes the constitutional right to freely practice one’s religion does not apply. First, no woman is even close to being prevented from practicing her religion just because she will henceforth have to show her face in public. Second, nowhere in Islam is there a commandment for full veiling.


The objection that the state doesn’t have any other regulations for clothing in public is without substance. Anyone who believes that should try taking a walk along Mariahilferstrasse[2] stark naked, and find out what the police and then the courts will do. Even today, in a system of political freedom, it is natural for the state to intervene in the freedom of dressing as one pleases.

Political Islam is attempting to turn the liberalism of the West against it. The European Court decreeing unity in this matter is good news.

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1.            Vienna’s priciest shopping district, stretching from Michaelerplatz to Graben.
2.            (inner and outer) Mariahiferstrasse, Vienna’s largest shopping district, beginning at the Ring and stretching out beyond the Belt

http://www.wienerzeitung.at/meinungen/gastkommentare/904538_Obszoen-nicht-religioes.html
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Reply #112 - Jul 21st, 2017 at 1:42pm
 
I regard the burka, face veil etc as "the Islamic prison uniform"
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Reply #113 - Jul 21st, 2017 at 2:47pm
 
The similarities to a certain muslim attire is uncanny.
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Reply #114 - Jul 21st, 2017 at 3:01pm
 
Well it's an appropriate image. The Grim Reaper has brought over 30 diseases to Germany with the Islamic invasion.
Some that haven't been seen in living memory, some that have never been seen and most of them infectious and spreading.
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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #115 - Jul 22nd, 2017 at 11:43am
 

As a Muslim, I strongly support the right to ban the veil

At last, the European Court of Justice has made a stand for European values
Qanta Ahmed
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/03/the-right-to-ban-the-veil-is-good-news-for-e...
In its ruling, the ECJ has made a secularist stand against Islamists who seek to dominate the public space. A secular public space allows me to practise my faith, as it allows others to observe theirs.
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Re: Winning: court upholds face veil ban
Reply #116 - Jul 22nd, 2017 at 11:59am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Jul 21st, 2017 at 3:01pm:
Well it's an appropriate image. The Grim Reaper has brought over 30 diseases to Germany with the Islamic invasion.
Some that haven't been seen in living memory, some that have never been seen and most of them infectious and spreading.


really... I havent seen that news...
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Reply #117 - Jul 22nd, 2017 at 12:46pm
 
See the Occupied Europe thread. It was detailed in ZeroHedge but from memory it was sourced from somewhere like the Gate stone Institute.
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