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Re: Islamophobia is still raising its ugly head in Aus
Reply #75 - Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:20pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:16pm:
mothra wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:10pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:04pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:03pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:02pm:
mothra wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:00pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 12:58pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 12:56pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 12:51pm:
Aren't we talking about Muslims here?


We're talking about Islamophobes.

White, lone, Islamophobic cowards who attack innocent women and children.

You know the type, Homo.

Why no mention of the worse crimes committed by Muslim christianophobes against men, women and children?



What do they have to do with the innocent women and children in the reports, Hammer?
Because if the Christianophobic things weren't happening the Islamophobic things wouldn't be happening. Can't you see the connection Mothra?


Your Islamophobia plays right into the hands of ISIS.

Can't you see the connection, Homo?

well if you leftist retards didn't bring Muslims out here by the boatload we wouldn't have Islamic terrorism.



Most acts of violence in this country are not perpetrated by Muslims.

Moreover, the overwhelming majority of Muslims in Australia are peace loving.

Do you think attacking them serves any purpose than to contribute towards the kind of disunity and hatred that breeds terrorists ?
you lefties still brought the problem out here though.


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Flown to Australia, by the rightards.

Granted refugee status, by the rightards.

Given Australian citizenship, by the rightards.

Allowed to kill an innocent hostage, by the rightards.

...

Dear oh dear.
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Re: Islamophobia is still raising its ugly head in Aus
Reply #76 - Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:22pm
 
mothra wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:20pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:15pm:
mothra wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:10pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:04pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:03pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:02pm:
mothra wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:00pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 12:58pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 12:56pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 12:51pm:
Aren't we talking about Muslims here?


We're talking about Islamophobes.

White, lone, Islamophobic cowards who attack innocent women and children.

You know the type, Homo.

Why no mention of the worse crimes committed by Muslim christianophobes against men, women and children?



What do they have to do with the innocent women and children in the reports, Hammer?
Because if the Christianophobic things weren't happening the Islamophobic things wouldn't be happening. Can't you see the connection Mothra?


Your Islamophobia plays right into the hands of ISIS.

Can't you see the connection, Homo?

well if you leftist retards didn't bring Muslims out here by the boatload we wouldn't have Islamic terrorism.



Most acts of violence in this country are not perpetrated by Muslims.

Moreover, the overwhelming majority of Muslims in Australia are peace loving.

Do you think attacking them serves any purpose than to contribute towards the kind of disunity and hatred that breeds terrorists ?



Why are 80% of the most violent reprehensible scumbags in the NSW Super Max Prison are muslims is it all the peace?





You much prefer saying 80% to 32 people, don't you BigOl.

Serves your agenda better.
It's more than 32 dear. Goulburn and NSW jails are full of Muslim lebs.
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Re: Islamophobia is still raising its ugly head in Aus
Reply #77 - Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:23pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:20pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:16pm:
mothra wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:10pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:04pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:03pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:02pm:
mothra wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:00pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 12:58pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 12:56pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 12:51pm:
Aren't we talking about Muslims here?


We're talking about Islamophobes.

White, lone, Islamophobic cowards who attack innocent women and children.

You know the type, Homo.

Why no mention of the worse crimes committed by Muslim christianophobes against men, women and children?



What do they have to do with the innocent women and children in the reports, Hammer?
Because if the Christianophobic things weren't happening the Islamophobic things wouldn't be happening. Can't you see the connection Mothra?


Your Islamophobia plays right into the hands of ISIS.

Can't you see the connection, Homo?

well if you leftist retards didn't bring Muslims out here by the boatload we wouldn't have Islamic terrorism.



Most acts of violence in this country are not perpetrated by Muslims.

Moreover, the overwhelming majority of Muslims in Australia are peace loving.

Do you think attacking them serves any purpose than to contribute towards the kind of disunity and hatred that breeds terrorists ?
you lefties still brought the problem out here though.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/5970158-3x2-340x227.jpg

Flown to Australia, by the rightards.

Granted refugee status, by the rightards.

Given Australian citizenship, by the rightards.

Allowed to kill an innocent hostage, by the rightards.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/5970158-3x2-340x227.jpg

Dear oh dear.
rightards??? Grin Grin Grin would I bring this piece of trash out here muppet?
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Re: Islamophobia is still raising its ugly head in Aus
Reply #78 - Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:25pm
 

"Of the perpetrators, 98% were identified by those who reported it as ethnically Anglo-Celtic. Perpetrators were three times more likely to be male. While lone males were more likely to be the perpetrator, lone Muslim women tended to be the victims."

You know the type, don't you BigHole and Hammer?

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Re: Islamophobia is still raising its ugly head in Aus
Reply #79 - Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:26pm
 
mothra wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:20pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:15pm:
mothra wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:10pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:04pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:03pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:02pm:
mothra wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:00pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 12:58pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 12:56pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 12:51pm:
Aren't we talking about Muslims here?


We're talking about Islamophobes.

White, lone, Islamophobic cowards who attack innocent women and children.

You know the type, Homo.

Why no mention of the worse crimes committed by Muslim christianophobes against men, women and children?



What do they have to do with the innocent women and children in the reports, Hammer?
Because if the Christianophobic things weren't happening the Islamophobic things wouldn't be happening. Can't you see the connection Mothra?


Your Islamophobia plays right into the hands of ISIS.

Can't you see the connection, Homo?

well if you leftist retards didn't bring Muslims out here by the boatload we wouldn't have Islamic terrorism.



Most acts of violence in this country are not perpetrated by Muslims.

Moreover, the overwhelming majority of Muslims in Australia are peace loving.

Do you think attacking them serves any purpose than to contribute towards the kind of disunity and hatred that breeds terrorists ?



Why are 80% of the most violent reprehensible scumbags in the NSW Super Max Prison are muslims is it all the peace?





You much prefer saying 80% to 32 people, don't you BigOl.

Serves your agenda better.



Are you trying to apologise for the fact that muslims make up the bulk of NSWs most violent offenders?

You were the one gilding the lily with your bullsh1t statements, I just handed you some facts, as unpalatable as they may be to you.



How is this then 97.4% of NSWs population only make up 20% of the Super Max population, and NONE of them are muslims.  Smiley Smiley Smiley



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Re: Islamophobia is still raising its ugly head in Aus
Reply #80 - Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:28pm
 

"After verbal threats and assaults, physical harassment was the second highest category of incidents (29.6%). Most reported physical assaults occurred in New South Wales (60%) and Victoria (26.7%). Queensland was notably high considering the relative small population of Muslims in that state."

You live in NSW, don't you Homo?

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Re: Islamophobia is still raising its ugly head in Aus
Reply #81 - Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:28pm
 
32 men, BigOl.

Don't be hysterical now.
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If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning.
 
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Reply #82 - Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:30pm
 
Always interesting to see on here the instances that the righties think it is perfectly acceptable to attack women and children.
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Re: Islamophobia is still raising its ugly head in Aus
Reply #83 - Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:33pm
 

"Of the in-person Islamophobic attacks, 48% occurred in crowded spaces that were frequented daily – shopping centres and train stations were the most common."

What's your nearest train station, Homo?
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Re: Islamophobia is still raising its ugly head in Aus
Reply #84 - Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:44pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:25pm:
"Of the perpetrators, 98% were identified by those who reported it as ethnically Anglo-Celtic. Perpetrators were three times more likely to be male. While lone males were more likely to be the perpetrator, lone Muslim women tended to be the victims."

You know the type, don't you BigHole and Hammer?



Nice accusation fkktard.  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Re: Islamophobia is still raising its ugly head in Aus
Reply #85 - Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:55pm
 
mothra wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:28pm:
32 men, BigOl.

Don't be hysterical now.



32 terrorists / potential terrorists, mass murderers, rapists of white women, is an acceptable number to you, consider the small population they come from?

It is a serious warning to not allow anymore m muslims into the country if anything.


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Reply #86 - Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:59pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:44pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:25pm:
"Of the perpetrators, 98% were identified by those who reported it as ethnically Anglo-Celtic. Perpetrators were three times more likely to be male. While lone males were more likely to be the perpetrator, lone Muslim women tended to be the victims."

You know the type, don't you BigHole and Hammer?



Nice accusation fkktard. 


It's not an accusation.

It's a statistic.

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Re: Islamophobia is still raising its ugly head in Aus
Reply #87 - Jul 11th, 2017 at 2:36pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:59pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:44pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:25pm:
"Of the perpetrators, 98% were identified by those who reported it as ethnically Anglo-Celtic. Perpetrators were three times more likely to be male. While lone males were more likely to be the perpetrator, lone Muslim women tended to be the victims."

You know the type, don't you BigHole and Hammer?



Nice accusation fkktard. 


It's not an accusation.

It's a statistic.




Statistics usually have numbers, they did when I went to uni.  Smiley Smiley
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Re: Islamophobia is still raising its ugly head in Aus
Reply #88 - Jul 11th, 2017 at 3:01pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 2:36pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:59pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:44pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2017 at 1:25pm:
"Of the perpetrators, 98% were identified by those who reported it as ethnically Anglo-Celtic. Perpetrators were three times more likely to be male. While lone males were more likely to be the perpetrator, lone Muslim women tended to be the victims."

You know the type, don't you BigHole and Hammer?



Nice accusation fkktard. 


It's not an accusation.

It's a statistic.




Statistics usually have numbers, they did when I went to uni.  Smiley Smiley


Look at the bit I've highlighted for you.

Where I come from, that's called a number.

I'd be interested in hearing your interpretation.

Also: "when I went to uni"    Grin
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Re: Islamophobia is still raising its ugly head in Aus
Reply #89 - Jul 11th, 2017 at 3:07pm
 
Islamophobia: My children hear the ugly reality of racism in the street, it's not up to them to toughen up


Dropping my children off to their Islamic school one morning, a car slowed down and one of the male occupants yelled out, "bugger off Arab terrorists".

My children processed the "F" word first and foremost. I remember the relief that he had used the "F" word, given it deflected the children's attention from "Arab" and "terrorist".

The children did not seem to have understood what had happened, but weeks later, the radio was on and they heard the words "Muslim" and "terrorists".

"Like what that man said," the eldest said, casually and matter-of-factly. Then they started asking me questions: "Do people hate Muslims? What's a terrorist?"

It was one of the most difficult conversations of my life. Trying to say enough, but not too much. Wanting to protect their innocence for as long as I could.

Sadly, what happened to my children and me pales in comparison to what many veiled Muslim women endure. The findings documented in the report of the Islamophobia Register of Australia demonstrate how much more vicious and violent such incidents of abuse, intimidation and harassment can be.

The report found veiled women are the main targets of Islamophobic abuse and that more than 30 per cent of women had their children with them at the time of the reported incident.

The presence of children at the time women have been followed and taunted, intimidated by groups of men or physically harassed is deeply disturbing. It vindicates the repeated testimonies of Muslim women, particularly veiled ones, that they are at the front line of Islamophobic abuse given their visibility and the misogynistic cowardice of perpetrators.

There can be no doubt witnessing such abuse negatively affects Australian Muslim children. All parents seek to protect their children from the ugly realities of racism. Yet racialised minorities do not have the luxury of choosing when to open up such conversations. They do not have the luxury of speaking about race and Islamophobia in intellectual terms, as part of classroom conversations or Harmony Day assemblies. Islamophobia is forced upon families as a lived experience and children are therefore confronted with a confusing chasm between feel-good multicultural rhetoric and the abuse they witness in their daily lives.

Tough conversations to have

What is so often missing in conversations around racism is the emotional and intellectual labour the targets of abuse must invest to protect themselves and their children.

There are so many complex and fraught conversations to unpack — consoling children in the immediate aftermath of an incident, navigating their questions, working out how to frame the "debriefing" conversation in a way that does not patronise them by downplaying what happened, explaining why nobody intervened, convincing them that the onus is not on Muslims (or indeed any racialised group) to adjust their practices in order to avoid the personal cost of visibility.

Layered over all of these concerns is an overarching fear one's children will become disillusioned, pessimistic and mistrusting about their capacity to flourish and carve out their own rightful place and future in their own country.

This is why we need to understand racism and Islamophobia is about exercising power over minorities long after the abuse and intimidation. Racialised minorities must unfairly bear the onus of teaching their children "resilience". Even as they are told to "go back to where you came from" or that they do not belong, they must redeem Australia to their children. And this is why it is critical interpersonal incidents of abuse are absolutely connected to the Islamophobia that is mainstreamed in policies, political rhetoric, legislation and the media.

Kids understand more than we think

Children are not naive. When an Australian Muslim child asks their parents, "Why do they hate us?" — as many Muslim parents attest to being asked — their question connects the dots between an incident of abuse and what they are repeatedly exposed to on the news and in media headlines.

We live in a time where simply switching off the television is not enough. Political and media discourse is ubiquitous and often unavoidable. This is what is so often under-estimated in our conversations around racism and Islamophobia.

It is not acceptable for politicians, the media and social commentators to limit condemnation to the man who yells at a Muslim woman in front of her child while ignoring the political conditions which animate and indeed foster such abuse.

It is not enough to question the impact of "go back to where you came from" on a child without simultaneously questioning the impact of policies that construct Muslim children and young adults as vulnerable to "radicalisation".

This is about more than the rhetoric of belonging. What Muslim parents want is to be able to convince themselves and their children they will not be denied the right to more than mere belonging. That their children will not grow up compelled to construct identities based on disclaimers (not terrorist/not radical). That their children can dream — big or small. That they can safely elaborate their own identity and possibilities for their future free from emotional, mental and physical abuse.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-10/children-see-the-ugly-reality-of-racism/86...
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