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Jul 4th, 2017 at 8:28am
 
You may have seen the recent interview on Channel 7 with a couple of veterans regarding taxation of DFRDB/MSBS Invalidity pensions.   Here is a brief outline of what it is all about:


1. In 1997 the Howard Government introduced legislation that would allow people to access their super at a lower taxation rate. This included people who were in "Transition to Retirement" mode. and other groups

2. This legislation should also have allowed Defence Force Personnel on Class A and B invalidity benefits to access this but the controlling body for Defence Superannuation, Commonwealth Super, failed in their fiduciary duty to inform these Personnel that they were entitled to utilise this legislation to legitimately reduce their tax and put more money in their pocket. This failure has seen many disabled veterans paying far more tax than they should have.

3. Because some groups abused this legislation by utilising their super and then claiming the Government Old Age Pension, the government decided to remove this legislation without looking at all groups who may be affected

4. Because of the failure of the CSC to inform their Customers of legitimate legislation, many personnel only found out about this by pure luck in the latter part of 2016, leading to a flood of applications to firstly, the ATO seeking Private rulings to allow invalidity benefits to be taxed as lump sums (which in the main were all successful) and secondly, taking those rulings to Comsuper to have fortnightly invalidity payments treated correctly in accordance with legislation.

5. The Government is incorrectly claiming this is a loophole - it is not, it is Government legislation that has been in existence for 20 years and has only been recently used by invalid Defence Personnel because it was discovered by pure luck and spread by word of mouth rather than that information coming decades ago from the Organisation supposed to be looking after us, ComSuper. That is why there have been a flood of applications recently.  For Senator Cormann to suggest otherwise is not correct

6. If a civilian and a serviceman were both to suffer the same injuries and be out of the work force, the Civilian would receive a tax free lump sum pay out - cognisant with their injuries - to do with as they see fit. The serviceman is reliant on a fortnightly amount taxed at the appropriate rate – and based on a percentage of their salary at the time of discharge to exist on. In many cases, this amount can be under the poverty line.

7.    It is understandably that the Government should close loopholes that allow the illegitimate denial of taxation to the Commonwealth.  This is not one of those cases.   This was not a loophole, it was proper legislation that the ATO used to give Veteran’s a legitimate tax concession.  In most cases, the Veteran does not receive any other benefit from the Commonwealth through concessions or pensions.

I suggest that any MP or Senator that wishes to comment on what is going to become a sensitive media event and arouse a lot of public interest, be a little more up to speed with the real story and issues.  This is not a money grab by Defence Personnel who have through no fault of their own, sustained injuries and have been forced to leave the Services.    This issue also brings to light the incompetence of those handling the various Military Superannuation Schemes.  They have shown by this issue that they have failed in their duty to their Customers by not remaining at the forefront of legislation that will affect their Members and advising those members when courses of action become available and what options can be followed.

This matter is proceeding to the AAT in August.  For those interested, I will keep you up to date with what is happening


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Re: Veteran's Invalidity Pensions
Reply #1 - Jul 8th, 2017 at 5:34pm
 
Dan Teehan was interviewed in Queensland on ABC Radio and questioned about Veteran's Invalidity Pensions.  It was clear from his response he was not over the issue at all.     There is a lot of information at this facebook group:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1098180903529690/

Or if that doesn't work properly ask to join this closed group on facebook:
COMSUPER - MILITARY ENTITLEMENTS

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Reply #2 - Jul 19th, 2017 at 2:29pm
 
This is a new website that will focus on Veteran's Invalidity Pensions and how they are treated for taxation and family law purposes (amongst others).     It will also focus on the Commonwealth Superannuation Corporation and how it is failing Veterans under DFRDB and MSBS with regards to looking after their interests
http://veteranclawback.com.au/
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Reply #4 - Nov 3rd, 2017 at 12:54pm
 
Vic wrote on Jul 19th, 2017 at 2:29pm:
This is a new website that will focus on Veteran's Invalidity Pensions and how they are treated for taxation and family law purposes (amongst others).     It will also focus on the Commonwealth Superannuation Corporation and how it is failing Veterans under DFRDB and MSBS with regards to looking after their interests
http://veteranclawback.com.au/



The Commonwealth Ombudsman is now looking into the Commonwealth Superannuation Corporation, plus holding discussions with DVA nd the ATO.    The above website contains a lot more information, especially with the taxation treatment of invalidity pensions and splitting of those pensions.
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Reply #5 - Nov 21st, 2017 at 9:05am
 
Thank you, Vic - that explains that issue well.
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Reply #6 - Dec 21st, 2017 at 1:14pm
 
Firstly, This posting concerns those of us that are on either DFRDB or MSBS Invalidity Pensions.  Secondly, it will have interest to those who are, or have, had those invalidity pensions taken into account when the marriage breaks up and it comes time to determine who gets what.   

In the past, invalidity pensions have been taken into account as income for the purposes of financial determinations in a legal sense.     This has always been a subject of distress to many veterans because invalidity pensions, and any lump sum compensation are not really income in the true sense of the word - it is money paid to compensate for injuries and as such should not form part of a financial split.      

I received this today:

"  We have just received notice that there has been a victory in the Family Court.

Early indications are that the Judge found that Regulation 43A does not apply to a DFRDB invalidity benefit.


Regulation 43A is what gives the Minister the Authority to make his determination and use the Methods and Factors that value these benefits.

First major win in the battle ahead.

We have just had our argument vindicated in the Family Court."

We are now trying to establish whether this ruling can be looked at for those veterans who have suffered severe financial circumstances as a result of what is a misinterpretation of the Minister's Authority
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Reply #7 - Dec 23rd, 2017 at 4:08pm
 
DVA to Fix Incorrect Offset Applied to DVA Incapacity Payments to Veterans Affected by Family Court Splitting Orders.


Who does it Effect?


A wounded or ill Veteran who is medically discharged can receive payments from two sources:
1. An Invalidity Benefit paid from MSBS, DFRDB or ADF Super by the Commonwealth Superannuation Corporation (CSC)
2. Department of Veteran Affairs (DVA) Incapacity Payment for those conditions attributed to ADF service.
When both payments are received, the Incapacity Payments are reduced by an amount calculated by DVA, based on advice of CSC. The reduction is known as the “offset”.

If the Veteran ends up in the Family Court, the Invalidity Benefit is subject to Family Court asset splitting. The former spouse is usually awarded a proportion of the Invalidity Benefit.

Incorrect Calculations.


In early 2017, DVA found an error in their method of calculating the reduction in Incapacity Payments involving Veterans with Family Court splitting orders on their superannuation Invalidity Benefit Payments.
• The DVA Incapacity Payment had been reduced by the military superannuation Invalidity Benefit amount the Veteran received plus the amount awarded to the former spouse.
• DVA discovered that, legally, the Incapacity Payment should have only been offset by the Invalidity Benefit amount the Veteran actually received.
Unfortunately, the Instruction DVA issued to correct the situation, only allowed backdating of the correction to 15 Dec 2016 and not to the date the mistake was originally made. If an affected veteran wanted the correct backdating, it required him or her to appeal the decision. The instruction also did provide for pro-active notification of veterans.

Representation.


Earlier this year, following advice from Veteran Clawback (VCB), members of the Australian Veterans Alliance (AVA), DFWA made representation to DVA to fix this up, seeking:
• DVA to automatically apply the correct backdating without need to appeal.
• DVA adopting pro-active stance to seek, identify and notify affected veterans
At the same time, representations and/or complaints were made to the Defence Ombudsman by DFWA and veterans associated with Veteran Clawback. Individual appeals to DVA were supported with the advice from VCB and Facebook Groups.

Result of Collaborative Effort


DVA advise they will be issuing a new instruction as soon as possible addressing all the issues raised, including refunds of incorrect payments and will liaise with the Australian Tax Office and Family Court as necessary to ensure there will be no detriment to affected Veterans.
DFWA welcomes this advice from DVA and will continue to monitor the situation when DVA issues new instruction and implements corrective action.

In the meantime, any veteran or Advocate who has put in an appeal to DVA on this should not withdraw it until official advice is received from DVA.

Any veteran contemplating an appeal is advised to hold fire until the new year as any effort in this area is likely to be nugatory.

Affected Veterans are advised to monitor this site for updates. DFWA/VCB will post new information as soon as received.

This is a significant win for the Veterans affected by the unjust splitting of their Invalidity benefits.

Below is a link to the DFWA website.

http://www.dfwa.org.au/
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