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Reply #60 - Nov 16th, 2017 at 9:37pm
 
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Frank wrote on Nov 15th, 2017 at 5:14pm:
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Oh, dear, dearie, me.  Spreading porkies again, Soren?  Tsk, tsk, what a shame it was a one day event - Eid al-Fitr.  James Woods is a known Paedophile and it appears, an Islamophobe.   Tsk, tsk, quoting such a person, Soren?  Really, you have sank to a new, new low, haven't you?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



You are over-reaching as always, you insufferably, self-conceited bloody fool.



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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.   Paedophile quoter, Islamophobe quoter.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #62 - Nov 18th, 2017 at 2:11pm
 
Multi-Culturalism
supporting every other 'culture'
rather than working towards finding an
umbrella 'Australian' culture.

Going backwards.
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Reply #63 - Nov 18th, 2017 at 3:18pm
 
Jasin wrote on Nov 18th, 2017 at 2:11pm:
Multi-Culturalism
supporting every other 'culture'
rather than working towards finding an
umbrella 'Australian' culture.

Going backwards.


Wrong.  Multiculturalism fosters the creation of an umbrella, Australian Multicultural Culture, where all member cultures are accorded equality in how they are regarded by society and the legal system.   Australia is made up of numerous member cultures now.
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Reply #64 - Nov 18th, 2017 at 6:33pm
 
Senator David Leyonhjelm was among those who joined the ­debate this week, telling Inquirer “a lot of people suddenly seem interested in whether or not our immigrants are assimilating because now we see that some of them are not integrating very well.

“It’s not Muslims, per se. That would be wrong because the Bosnian Muslims and the Turks have integrated very well. And it’s not only Muslims because other groups — the Chinese Christians, for example — are also strongly anti-same-sex marriage.
But the result shows us, for the first time, very clearly, that some immigrants hold very different views from mainstream Australia, and I do think there are some other values you could extrapolate it to: and the role of women, and attitude to women working, and at the extreme end of it, even female genital mutilation, because the reality is we have a sizeable group of people who have changed countries yet who continue to live more or less as they lived in the old country.”


There is some evidence for this proposition: the notorious radical Islamist group Hizb ut-Tahrir makes its home in western Sydney and, indeed, last year hosted a now-notorious public forum in the west at which veiled women discussed the circumstances under which Muslim men should be allowed to hit their wives (not with fists, they said; only with short sticks and pieces of fabric.) Western Sydney is also home to Rissalah College, and several other Islamic schools, where girls as young as five wear veils and can’t wear shorts even for sport; and it is the home of al-Faisal, the Islamic college, which — depressingly for gay kids in the community — proudly announced last year that it had never had a gay student.


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Suddenly, assimilation is desirable when accommodating deviance, sorry. 'liberal attitudes to sex'  is the issue. Wogs don't assimilate to Western deviance. Tut tut.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Tsk, tsk.



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Reply #65 - Nov 20th, 2017 at 4:45pm
 
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In Germany they actually hold classes to teach Arab Muslims that raping women is not an acceptable sport in Western culture.



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Reply #66 - Nov 24th, 2017 at 4:36pm
 
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Reply #67 - Nov 26th, 2017 at 7:25pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 18th, 2017 at 3:18pm:
Multiculturalism fosters the creation of an umbrella

For whom?

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 18th, 2017 at 3:18pm:
Australian Multicultural Culture, where all member cultures are accorded equality


"all men are created equal, some more equal than others"

Does the above relate to christians or only muslims?

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 18th, 2017 at 3:18pm:
Australia is made up of numerous member cultures now


Islam? What else is on a par with this assertion of yours?
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Reply #68 - Nov 26th, 2017 at 9:16pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 18th, 2017 at 3:18pm:
Jasin wrote on Nov 18th, 2017 at 2:11pm:
Multi-Culturalism
supporting every other 'culture'
rather than working towards finding an
umbrella 'Australian' culture.

Going backwards.


Wrong.  Multiculturalism fosters the creation of an umbrella, Australian Multicultural Culture, where all member cultures are accorded equality in how they are regarded by society and the legal system.   Australia is made up of numerous member cultures now.

I don't want every culture to be afforded equal status.

That is complete madness.  Most cultures are evidently worse than our own (the movement of people is one way - to the West, not to the 'diverse cultures' of the backward and brutal third world.
It is crazy to say that they all deserve to be treated equally. They do not.

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Reply #69 - Nov 26th, 2017 at 10:15pm
 
Frank wrote on Nov 26th, 2017 at 9:16pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 18th, 2017 at 3:18pm:
Jasin wrote on Nov 18th, 2017 at 2:11pm:
Multi-Culturalism
supporting every other 'culture'
rather than working towards finding an
umbrella 'Australian' culture.

Going backwards.


Wrong.  Multiculturalism fosters the creation of an umbrella, Australian Multicultural Culture, where all member cultures are accorded equality in how they are regarded by society and the legal system.   Australia is made up of numerous member cultures now.

I don't want every culture to be afforded equal status.


What you want does not matter, Soren.   You are but one, lonely voice out there.   What the Australian Government does is what matters.   Multiculturalism accords all cultures equal status under the law.   Danish is just one culture, amongst many.   Time you faced facts, Soren, Multiculturalism is here to stay.  It is not going to disappear overnight, no matter how much you and your Xenophobes scream about it.  It works for the majority of Australians, the majority of the time and that is all that can be asked of any Government policy.

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That is complete madness.  Most cultures are evidently worse than our own (the movement of people is one way - to the West, not to the 'diverse cultures' of the backward and brutal third world.
It is crazy to say that they all deserve to be treated equally. They do not.


As long as the actions of the adherents to a particular culture are within the laws of Australia, there is no reason to discourage people from adhering to them, Soren.     Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Islam, BTW is a religion, not a culture, per se.  It overlays the underlying culture, in exactly the same way as Christianity does.  There are Indonesian Muslims, Malay Muslims, Bangladeshi Muslims, Indian Muslims, Pakistani Muslims, Afghan Muslims, Iranian, Iraqi, Central Asian, Turkish, Lebanese, Jordanian, Egyptian, Libyan, to name a few.   They are all subtly different in their cultures and their application of their religion, just as Christians differ often quite radically in theirs.   You'd know more claim that a Sephardic Jew was the same to an Ashkenazi Jew or a Lutheran Christian was the same as a Roman Catholic or an Eastern Orthodox Christian.    Roll Eyes

Oh, and I'd have thought, after the failure, yet again for the PHONies with their anti-Multicultural message this weekend in the Queensland election, just as they failed 20 years ago federally as they did a few months ago in Western Australia, you'd finally get the message - Australians like Multiculturalism.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #70 - Nov 26th, 2017 at 10:39pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 26th, 2017 at 10:15pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 26th, 2017 at 9:16pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 18th, 2017 at 3:18pm:
Jasin wrote on Nov 18th, 2017 at 2:11pm:
Multi-Culturalism
supporting every other 'culture'
rather than working towards finding an
umbrella 'Australian' culture.

Going backwards.


Wrong.  Multiculturalism fosters the creation of an umbrella, Australian Multicultural Culture, where all member cultures are accorded equality in how they are regarded by society and the legal system.   Australia is made up of numerous member cultures now.

I don't want every culture to be afforded equal status.


What you want does not matter, Soren.   You are but one, lonely voice out there.   What the Australian Government does is what matters.   Multiculturalism accords all cultures equal status under the law.   Danish is just one culture, amongst many.   Time you faced facts, Soren, Multiculturalism is here to stay.  It is not going to disappear overnight, no matter how much you and your Xenophobes scream about it.  It works for the majority of Australians, the majority of the time and that is all that can be asked of any Government policy.

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That is complete madness.  Most cultures are evidently worse than our own (the movement of people is one way - to the West, not to the 'diverse cultures' of the backward and brutal third world.
It is crazy to say that they all deserve to be treated equally. They do not.


As long as the actions of the adherents to a particular culture are within the laws of Australia, there is no reason to discourage people from adhering to them, Soren.     Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Islam, BTW is a religion, not a culture, per se.  It overlays the underlying culture, in exactly the same way as Christianity does.  There are Indonesian Muslims, Malay Muslims, Bangladeshi Muslims, Indian Muslims, Pakistani Muslims, Afghan Muslims, Iranian, Iraqi, Central Asian, Turkish, Lebanese, Jordanian, Egyptian, Libyan, to name a few.   They are all subtly different in their cultures and their application of their religion, just as Christians differ often quite radically in theirs.   You'd know more claim that a Sephardic Jew was the same to an Ashkenazi Jew or a Lutheran Christian was the same as a Roman Catholic or an Eastern Orthodox Christian.    Roll Eyes



Many ARE outside the laws and decencies of a developed and humane society. But trying to be idiotically inclusive, we have a hard time of purging things like honour killings, FGM, child brides, arranged marriages, goat slaughtering in 3rd floor apartments during Eid, etc, etc.

We have equally hard time to inculcate them about personal hygiene, especially when they inflict themselves on others using public transport. Their smell stick to you like radioactive waste.  Not to mention their sullen, dead-eyed demeanour. They are ugly, cheap, materialistic, grubby.  They have no taste, they inspire no admiration, they are ugly little cracked-heeled people reeking of curry, snorting their snot, filling the public place with their hideous gaggle. They BELIEVE your stupid propaganda about their primitive habits amounting to a worthwhile culture deserving respect. They do not seem to have any vestige of dignity or nobility about them. They act like they didn't know they are no longer in godforsaken buggerofistan or wherever the hell they come from.

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Reply #71 - Nov 26th, 2017 at 11:14pm
 
Frank wrote on Nov 26th, 2017 at 10:39pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 26th, 2017 at 10:15pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 26th, 2017 at 9:16pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 18th, 2017 at 3:18pm:
Jasin wrote on Nov 18th, 2017 at 2:11pm:
Multi-Culturalism
supporting every other 'culture'
rather than working towards finding an
umbrella 'Australian' culture.

Going backwards.


Wrong.  Multiculturalism fosters the creation of an umbrella, Australian Multicultural Culture, where all member cultures are accorded equality in how they are regarded by society and the legal system.   Australia is made up of numerous member cultures now.

I don't want every culture to be afforded equal status.


What you want does not matter, Soren.   You are but one, lonely voice out there.   What the Australian Government does is what matters.   Multiculturalism accords all cultures equal status under the law.   Danish is just one culture, amongst many.   Time you faced facts, Soren, Multiculturalism is here to stay.  It is not going to disappear overnight, no matter how much you and your Xenophobes scream about it.  It works for the majority of Australians, the majority of the time and that is all that can be asked of any Government policy.

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That is complete madness.  Most cultures are evidently worse than our own (the movement of people is one way - to the West, not to the 'diverse cultures' of the backward and brutal third world.
It is crazy to say that they all deserve to be treated equally. They do not.


As long as the actions of the adherents to a particular culture are within the laws of Australia, there is no reason to discourage people from adhering to them, Soren.     Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Islam, BTW is a religion, not a culture, per se.  It overlays the underlying culture, in exactly the same way as Christianity does.  There are Indonesian Muslims, Malay Muslims, Bangladeshi Muslims, Indian Muslims, Pakistani Muslims, Afghan Muslims, Iranian, Iraqi, Central Asian, Turkish, Lebanese, Jordanian, Egyptian, Libyan, to name a few.   They are all subtly different in their cultures and their application of their religion, just as Christians differ often quite radically in theirs.   You'd know more claim that a Sephardic Jew was the same to an Ashkenazi Jew or a Lutheran Christian was the same as a Roman Catholic or an Eastern Orthodox Christian.    Roll Eyes



Many ARE outside the laws and decencies of a developed and humane society. But trying to be idiotically inclusive, we have a hard time of purging things like honour killings, FGM, child brides, arranged marriages, goat slaughtering in 3rd floor apartments during Eid, etc, etc.

We have equally hard time to inculcate them about personal hygiene, especially when they inflict themselves on others using public transport. Their smell stick to you like radioactive waste.  Not to mention their sullen, dead-eyed demeanour. They are ugly, cheap, materialistic, grubby.  They have no taste, they inspire no admiration, they are ugly little cracked-heeled people reeking of curry, snorting their snot, filling the public place with their hideous gaggle. They BELIEVE your stupid propaganda about their primitive habits amounting to a worthwhile culture deserving respect. They do not seem to have any vestige of dignity or nobility about them. They act like they didn't know they are no longer in godforsaken buggerofistan or wherever the hell they come from.


Spoken like a true racist, Soren.   You condemn yourself from your own fingers.  Tsk, tsk. when are you moving back to Denmark.  Oh, wait, the Danes are now Multicultural as well.   Indeed, there is only two nations which are monocultural - Iceland and Japan and guess what?  You wouldn't be welcome in either of them, now would you?  Nor could you feel at home.   You'll just have to move to some uninhabited island.  I know, how about Gruinard Island?  Uninhabited, you could live there all by yourself and be happy, Soren.   Smiley
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Reply #72 - Nov 27th, 2017 at 11:45am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 26th, 2017 at 11:14pm:
Multiculturalism accords all cultures equal status under the law.

This is actually not true - FGM, polygamy etc are NOT afforded equal status.

You have not provided a single argument to demonstrate that all cultures are equal, Bwian, mainly because you could not possibly mount such an argument - not you, not anyone.

SO you resort to talking about Denmark and Japan.
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Reply #73 - Nov 27th, 2017 at 2:43pm
 
Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2017 at 11:45am:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 26th, 2017 at 11:14pm:
Multiculturalism accords all cultures equal status under the law.

This is actually not true - FGM, polygamy etc are NOT afforded equal status.


True.  However, they are only subsidiary aspects of the dominant cultures that they hail from, Soren.  Their cultures must, as I have said, work within the Australian legal system.   Those aspects need to be abandoned.  Something I have never denie, if you had read everything I have said (which I doubt).    Roll Eyes

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You have not provided a single argument to demonstrate that all cultures are equal, Bwian, mainly because you could not possibly mount such an argument - not you, not anyone.

SO you resort to talking about Denmark and Japan.
Tsk, tsk  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


I have never claimed that "all cultures are equal", Soren.  I have made the the point that, before the Australian law, all cultures are accorded equal status.  The legal system cannot favour Anglo-Saxon/Celtic derived Settler culture over that of say, Italian derived Australian culture or Greek derived Australian culture or Danish derived Australian culture or South African derived Australian culture or Jordanian derived Australian culture or Vietnamese derived Australian culture or any other derived Australian culture.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #74 - Nov 27th, 2017 at 5:05pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 27th, 2017 at 2:43pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 27th, 2017 at 11:45am:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 26th, 2017 at 11:14pm:
Multiculturalism accords all cultures equal status under the law.

This is actually not true - FGM, polygamy etc are NOT afforded equal status.


True.  However, they are only subsidiary aspects of the dominant cultures that they hail from, Soren.  Their cultures must, as I have said, work within the Australian legal system.   Those aspects need to be abandoned.  Something I have never denie, if you had read everything I have said (which I doubt).    Roll Eyes

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You have not provided a single argument to demonstrate that all cultures are equal, Bwian, mainly because you could not possibly mount such an argument - not you, not anyone.

SO you resort to talking about Denmark and Japan.
Tsk, tsk  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


I have never claimed that "all cultures are equal", Soren.  I have made the the point that, before the Australian law, all cultures are accorded equal status.  The legal system cannot favour Anglo-Saxon/Celtic derived Settler culture over that of say, Italian derived Australian culture or Greek derived Australian culture or Danish derived Australian culture or South African derived Australian culture or Jordanian derived Australian culture or Vietnamese derived Australian culture or any other derived Australian culture.   Roll Eyes

Well, doing what the Australian law doesn't forbid is not multiculturalism. It's Australian law.

And you did say that the law affords every culture equal status - which is nonsense. "Multiculturalism' is dressing funny, eating funny food and behaving in a primitive way that is not unlawful just hideously foreign and uncouth. In a way, multiculturalism is a licence for primitives to ignore the values and more highly developed courtesies of the host country because these are non-legal aspects of life.

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