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Is anything BUT atheism a sensible basis for life?
Jun 25th, 2017 at 9:47pm
 
Depending on invisible sky fairies does not seem to me to be a sensible starting point for a philosophy to guide one in life?
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Reply #1 - Jun 26th, 2017 at 9:44am
 
Any of them. I agree.
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Reply #2 - Jun 26th, 2017 at 3:32pm
 
Well, there is God, and then there is religion. The confusion of the two produces nothing more than hierarchies of power and simple answers for simple minds.

However, Atheism is almost as stupid. For a start, proponents allow themselves to be defined by what they are not.

Don't talk to me about Agnostics, they wouldn't know there arses from a hole in the ground.

The only thing about "God" that I dismiss, is the incredibly daggy, small-minded, musty smelly idiotic varieties that humans have come up with so far.

A fourth way, where the question does not exist, is just as valid as the trichotomy. Perhaps there are other frames of mind also.
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Reply #3 - Jul 28th, 2017 at 7:55pm
 
Atheism is simply a denial of god's existence and doesn't ascribe any value judgments or qualities for how to live a life beyond that. Therefore, it's not a basis at all.
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A better basis than belief in invisible sky fairies.
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Reply #5 - Aug 1st, 2017 at 11:55am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 25th, 2017 at 9:47pm:
Depending on invisible sky fairies does not seem to me to be a sensible starting point for a philosophy to guide one in life?



It works great for children, there is no need for sound reasoned judgement or personal responsibility; however if you are an adult who is not retarded then religion and god are a waste of your time and energy.

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Reply #6 - Aug 1st, 2017 at 9:21pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 11:55am:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 25th, 2017 at 9:47pm:
Depending on invisible sky fairies does not seem to me to be a sensible starting point for a philosophy to guide one in life?



It works great for children, there is no need for sound reasoned judgement or personal responsibility; however if you are an adult who is not retarded then religion and god are a waste of your time and energy.



The Atheism forum is slow, but I always like to see what people have to say. Forgive me for saying this, but some atheists are just as dogmatic as Godists. Religion is not a waste of time. It has many uses.

1. It allays a sense of emptiness when an individual is confronted by, and feels threatened by, the meaninglessness of life.

2. By latching on to the said sense of emptiness, God religions give their purveyors authority over the bewildered masses, and this authority has been used as currency with hereditary monarchs in every attempt at civilisation in world history.

3. Religions gives moralists a platform from which to advertise their sense of right and wrong, creating the concept of guilt which is essential and self-fulfilling.

4. Some religions provide answers to questions that cannot be answered with logic. Lots of people love religion for this reason. Through religion they don't even need to justify their choice. One has to admit that is a very valuable asset.

I have to qualify the above points which may seem cynical. There is no doubt that a great many good deeds have been done in the "name" of Godisms. For example, Christian missionaries were largely responsible for the end of cannibalism in the South Pacific. And the Red Cross has relieved some suffering world wide. But these things could have been achieved without ancient scripture. The fact is that those kinds of perceptions were of their time.

The God religions are not going away in the foreseeable future just because a tiny proportion of humanity among the world's educated urban sophisticates like to poke fun at them, even when deserved. Looking at the state of things today, and the population explosion, I would say it is more likely that Atheism will fizzle out.
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Reply #7 - Aug 2nd, 2017 at 7:24pm
 
^ good post. Religion served a purpose and its loss only creates a vacuum. In its place we have nationalism, climate changism, transgenderism, cultural repudiation, narcissism ...
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Reply #8 - Aug 2nd, 2017 at 7:48pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 25th, 2017 at 9:47pm:
Depending on invisible sky fairies does not seem to me to be a sensible starting point for a philosophy to guide one in life?




Dear Jovial,
The rapture will happen soon be prepared. Know and believe that Jesus died on the cross for your sins and sins of the world shed his blood and rose three days later from the grave and went back to heaven to prepare a place. Turn away from your sins and ask forgiveness and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Personal Saviour. God will forgive your sins no matter what they are.

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Reply #9 - Aug 2nd, 2017 at 8:43pm
 


Being Agnostic is a much more rational position.

Atheists are a lot on the arrogant side.

Religious people .......mentally ill.
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Reply #10 - Aug 3rd, 2017 at 8:28am
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 2nd, 2017 at 7:48pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 25th, 2017 at 9:47pm:
Depending on invisible sky fairies does not seem to me to be a sensible starting point for a philosophy to guide one in life?




Dear Jovial,
The rapture will happen soon be prepared. Know and believe that Jesus died on the cross for your sins and sins of the world shed his blood and rose three days later from the grave and went back to heaven to prepare a place. Turn away from your sins and ask forgiveness and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Personal Saviour. God will forgive your sins no matter what they are.

namaste


See this is the problem with God Freaks. They arrogantly claim to have secret knowledge of how the Universe works that has been revealed to them, which at best is a lie. Bob, like Yadda and Light boy, you are a cretinous low-brow.
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Reply #11 - Aug 25th, 2017 at 6:06pm
 
issuevoter wrote on Aug 3rd, 2017 at 8:28am:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 2nd, 2017 at 7:48pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 25th, 2017 at 9:47pm:
Depending on invisible sky fairies does not seem to me to be a sensible starting point for a philosophy to guide one in life?




Dear Jovial,
The rapture will happen soon be prepared. Know and believe that Jesus died on the cross for your sins and sins of the world shed his blood and rose three days later from the grave and went back to heaven to prepare a place. Turn away from your sins and ask forgiveness and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Personal Saviour. God will forgive your sins no matter what they are.

namaste


Bob, like Yadda and Light boy, you are a cretinous low-brow.




Listen Issue,         my God is bigger than bobby's God!


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Reply #12 - Aug 26th, 2017 at 2:02am
 
Yadda wrote on Aug 25th, 2017 at 6:06pm:
issuevoter wrote on Aug 3rd, 2017 at 8:28am:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 2nd, 2017 at 7:48pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 25th, 2017 at 9:47pm:
Depending on invisible sky fairies does not seem to me to be a sensible starting point for a philosophy to guide one in life?




Dear Jovial,
The rapture will happen soon be prepared. Know and believe that Jesus died on the cross for your sins and sins of the world shed his blood and rose three days later from the grave and went back to heaven to prepare a place. Turn away from your sins and ask forgiveness and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Personal Saviour. God will forgive your sins no matter what they are.

namaste


Bob, like Yadda and Light boy, you are a cretinous low-brow.




Listen Issue,         my God is bigger than bobby's God!




Its not a big dick contest Yadda
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Reply #13 - Aug 26th, 2017 at 9:15am
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 2nd, 2017 at 7:24pm:
^ good post. Religion served a purpose and its loss only creates a vacuum. In its place we have nationalism, climate changism, transgenderism, cultural repudiation, narcissism ...



cause you never had that before with religion? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Sure some of the titles were different, but the bullsh1t was the same

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Reply #14 - Aug 26th, 2017 at 10:17am
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 2nd, 2017 at 7:24pm:
^ good post. Religion served a purpose and its loss only creates a vacuum. In its place we have

nationalism,
climate changism,
transgenderism,
cultural repudiation,
narcissism ...



And you forgot to mention.....
....the introduction of the 'safe space' within institutions of higher learning today, where no real and honest examination, and no real and honest scrutiny, of the political lefts protected 'sacred cows' are permitted.

Because such examination would lay upon and expose leftist politics to open ridicule, and, 'persecution'.



Holy cows....

gay nation issues
gay identity issues
ISLAM-o-fascism
leftist fascism
political violence/activism against voices of truth
political fascism/activism against voices of truth

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Reply #15 - Sep 26th, 2017 at 4:17am
 
issuevoter wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 9:21pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Aug 1st, 2017 at 11:55am:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 25th, 2017 at 9:47pm:
Depending on invisible sky fairies does not seem to me to be a sensible starting point for a philosophy to guide one in life?



It works great for children, there is no need for sound reasoned judgement or personal responsibility; however if you are an adult who is not retarded then religion and god are a waste of your time and energy.



The Atheism forum is slow, but I always like to see what people have to say. Forgive me for saying this, but some atheists are just as dogmatic as Godists. llays a sense of emptiness when an individual is confronted by, and feels threatened by, the meaninglessness of life.

2. By latching on to the said sense of emptiness, God religions give their purveyors authority over the bewildered masses, and this authority has been used as currency with hereditary monarchs in every attempt at civilisation in world history.

3. Religions gives moralists a platform from which to advertise their sense of right and wrong, creating the concept of guilt which is essential and self-fulfilling.

4. Some religions provide answers to questions that cannot be answered with logic. Lots of people love religion for this reason. Through religion they don't even need to justify their choice. One has to admit that is a very valuable asset.

I have to qualify the above points which may seem cynical. There is no doubt that a great many good deeds have been done in the "name" of Godisms. For example, Christian missionaries were largely responsible for the end of cannibalism in the South Pacific. And the Red Cross has relieved some suffering world wide. But these things could have been achieved without ancient scripture. The fact is that those kinds of perceptions were of their time.

The God religions are not going away in the foreseeable future just because a tiny proportion of humanity among the world's educated urban sophisticates like to poke fun at them, even when deserved. Looking at the state of things today, and the population explosion, I would say it is more likely that Atheism will fizzle out.


Yes I agree that religion, as opposed to a simple belief in a higher power can be beneficial.
However, recognition to those first created the magic of mapping of planetary movements is long overdue. Their importance to society far exceeds the importance of any religion IMO.
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Reply #16 - Sep 26th, 2017 at 6:15am
 
Long time no see Amadd.


A scientist (atheist) will tell you that the Earth is NOT the centre of the Universe - and he/she is right.

A Spiritualist (religious) will tell you that the Earth is the centre of OUR Universe - and he/she is also right.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #17 - Sep 26th, 2017 at 8:41am
 
Yadda wrote on Aug 26th, 2017 at 10:17am:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 2nd, 2017 at 7:24pm:
^ good post. Religion served a purpose and its loss only creates a vacuum. In its place we have

nationalism,
climate changism,
transgenderism,
cultural repudiation,
narcissism ...



And you forgot to mention.....
....the introduction of the 'safe space' within institutions of higher learning today, where no real and honest examination, and no real and honest scrutiny, of the political lefts protected 'sacred cows' are permitted.

Because such examination would lay upon and expose leftist politics to open ridicule, and, 'persecution'.



Holy cows....

gay nation issues
gay identity issues
ISLAM-o-fascism
leftist fascism
political violence/activism against voices of truth
political fascism/activism against voices of truth




I know its just one data point, but Yadda is excellent evidence for the worthiness of atheism.
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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Reply #18 - Sep 26th, 2017 at 8:11pm
 
Jasin wrote on Sep 26th, 2017 at 6:15am:
Long time no see Amadd.


A scientist (atheist) will tell you that the Earth is NOT the centre of the Universe - and he/she is right.

A Spiritualist (religious) will tell you that the Earth is the centre of OUR Universe - and he/she is also right.


Yes I haven't been around for awhile JaSinner (formerly know as Jasignature?).

Does the spiritualist need to follow one religion in particular to be called religious?
Do people really need to believe nonsense stories and believe that God gave personal instructions to a chosen few to be spiritual?

To me, the likes of Newton, Einstein, Hawkins, Faraday...etc. are the ones who are truly in touch with God's word.

On the topic of conversation, I would say that no it's not necessary for anybody to pronounce themselves as atheist or religious to lead a good life.
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Reply #19 - Sep 27th, 2017 at 10:22pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 26th, 2017 at 8:41am:
I know its just one data point, but Yadda is excellent evidence for the worthiness of atheism.


He's also an excellent ADVERTISEMENT for atheism
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Nancy Rynes, The Atheist Who Went To Heaven


Nancy Rynes is a spiritual explorer, making the path to a love-filled life clearer for seekers the world over. Nancy is a leading voice for personalizing the wisdom of Near Death Experiences (NDEs), developing our heart-centered intuition, and living a life of inspired creativity. Known for her fun, lighthearted, girl-next-door demeanor, Nancy teaches others how to live a more purposeful, joyful, and Heaven-inspired life.
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Reply #21 - Oct 19th, 2017 at 10:34am
 
dear master Light,

Ye shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.
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it_is_the_light wrote on Sep 30th, 2017 at 8:09pm:


Nancy Rynes, The Atheist Who Went To Heaven


Nancy Rynes is a spiritual explorer, making the path to a love-filled life clearer for seekers the world over. Nancy is a leading voice for personalizing the wisdom of Near Death Experiences (NDEs), developing our heart-centered intuition, and living a life of inspired creativity. Known for her fun, lighthearted, girl-next-door demeanor, Nancy teaches others how to live a more purposeful, joyful, and Heaven-inspired life.




Still though shes promoting something which isnt proof of an afterlife
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