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Re: Hanson on Autistic kids
Reply #330 - Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 3:39pm

mothra wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 3:09pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 3:06pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 2:54pm:

cods wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 2:50pm:

I TOTALLY agree with that guy special needs kids need to be treated special.. not all lumped together..

costly I know

maybe NDIS is looking at this....

but we could do more and agitate for some things to change

for the better.

Yet you have parents of ASD kids on this thread who are telling you the opposite and you refuse to validate us.

Or the experts.

Nobody ever said one size fits all ... but a great many otherly abled kids fit in perfectly well in mainstream classes to the benefit of themselves and their peers.

Hanson was way off.

What about the ones who don't fit in, the ones who disrupt and cause problems who are forced upon the school, teachers and students in the name of progressive integration?

Why not open up the special schools again and dump them in there?

What about any child that is disruptive, doesn't fit in and causes problems for reasons for which there are too many to mention?

The only obvious answer is smaller class sizes, better trained teachers, support within the schools and teacher's aides.

The only thing it does depend on is whether the child is so intellectually / physically challenged that they are a burden on the school class or they are high spirited. Because one can be dealt with quite easily, the other is unlikely to make any progress while fkking up the education of the other students.

Not all square pegs can be shoved into round holes, better put them in the right place straight up

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 34535 Gender:	Re: Hanson on Autistic kids Reply #331 - Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 3:41pm Nobody has suggested that severely disabled children attend regular school. Calm your farm.
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Re: Hanson on Autistic kids
Reply #332 - Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 3:43pm

For an old woman, you sure are childish

at least I am not RUDE.. Angry

if thats the best you have then dont bother..

at least I answered you..

I was going to say you are RUDE when people dont agree with your command..

so you dismiss them with a comment like

have you read the OP.. Sad

..but I didnt want to come down to your level..

so now its OLD WOMEN>.

nice one..

that will be even harder to beat....should I ever feel like stooping that low..

you and someone else on here have pretty low standards when it comes to debateing...btw mothra..

when I make a post its never to you unless stated...

so there really is no need for your nasty replies..

save them for all the others....

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 34535 Gender:	Re: Hanson on Autistic kids Reply #333 - Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 3:46pm You're incredibly rude. You insult people all day long, day in and day out. To add to that, you rarely understand what is actually said and fly off the handle over things people don't say or mean. Then you insult them for it. You are one of the rudest people on here. And the most spiteful and abusive.
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Re: Hanson on Autistic kids
Reply #334 - Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 3:46pm

cods wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 3:43pm:

For an old woman, you sure are childish

at least I am not RUDE.. Angry

if thats the best you have then dont bother..

at least I answered you..

I was going to say you are RUDE when people dont agree with your command..

so you dismiss them with a comment like

have you read the OP.. Sad

..but I didnt want to come down to your level..

so now its OLD WOMEN>.

nice one..

that will be even harder to beat....should I ever feel like stooping that low..

you and someone else on here have pretty low standards when it comes to debateing...btw mothra..

when I make a post its never to you unless stated...

so there really is no need for your nasty replies..

save them for all the others....

Are you a young man, cods?

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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20231 Gordon Gender:	Re: Hanson on Autistic kids Reply #335 - Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 3:52pm +
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Black Orchid Gold Member Offline Posts: 5803 Gender:	Re: Hanson on Autistic kids Reply #336 - Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 3:54pm I seriously cannot fathom why anyone is even still in this thread.
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Re: Hanson on Autistic kids
Reply #337 - Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 3:57pm

mothra wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 3:41pm:

Nobody has suggested that severely disabled children attend regular school.

Calm your farm.

Never actually said 'severely', nice try. Grin

I am saying that disabled or useless enough to cause disruption and produce poor outcomes for the other students.

Not to difficult to comprehend is it?

It wasn't that long ago the all students were separated based on ability, saves wasting everyone times with those who just don't 'cut the mustard'

You are what you are, and just because you have high self esteem doesn't mean you're not thick as pig sh1t.

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Re: Hanson on Autistic kids
Reply #338 - Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 4:00pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 3:57pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 3:41pm:

Nobody has suggested that severely disabled children attend regular school.

Calm your farm.

Never actually said 'severely', nice try. Grin

I am saying that disabled or useless enough to cause disruption and produce poor outcomes for the other students.

Not to difficult to comprehend is it?

It wasn't that long ago the all students were separated based on ability, saves wasting everyone times with those who just don't 'cut the mustard'

You are what you are, and just because you have high self esteem doesn't mean you're not thick as pig sh1t.

The old ways produced bad outcomes for everyone, including many in this thread who clearly have no empathy towards the otherly-abled because they have probably never spent any quality time with them as peers.

A great many people with disabilities are neither disruptive or "thick as pig sh1t".

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Re: Hanson on Autistic kids
Reply #339 - Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 4:02pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 3:46pm:

cods wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 3:43pm:

For an old woman, you sure are childish

at least I am not RUDE.. Angry

if thats the best you have then dont bother..

at least I answered you..

I was going to say you are RUDE when people dont agree with your command..

so you dismiss them with a comment like

have you read the OP.. Sad

..but I didnt want to come down to your level..

so now its OLD WOMEN>.

nice one..

that will be even harder to beat....should I ever feel like stooping that low..

you and someone else on here have pretty low standards when it comes to debateing...btw mothra..

when I make a post its never to you unless stated...

so there really is no need for your nasty replies..

save them for all the others....

Are you a young man, cods?

what is that comment meant to be?

is that to comliment your new best friend..???

I notice greg you never tell your friend she goes too far..you justy chip in with your usual

yes sir no sir 3 bags full sir..

check her last post full of niceties... Roll Eyes

I ask her to stop posting to me and we get more of the same.....

look at her rave.. just like someone else who is all out for Revenge>...

greg all I have done is put a link up to a parent who says he agrees with hansen..

and look what happened...I do hope you have read all the posts she has slandered me with.

go back to reply 320....
in between her rant and bigole...

my question greg is

WHY make a strange comment about me..

why not your friend or do you approve of that type of behavior.?

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 34535 Gender:	Re: Hanson on Autistic kids Reply #340 - Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 4:04pm Cods you have been insulting me all thread and joining in with other people insulting me. Are you surprised i eventually told you to get bent? So typically, you're now playing the victim. Never take responsibility for your own behaviour, do you.
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Re: Hanson on Autistic kids
Reply #341 - Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 4:06pm

mothra wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 4:00pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 3:57pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 3:41pm:

Nobody has suggested that severely disabled children attend regular school.

Calm your farm.

Never actually said 'severely', nice try. Grin

I am saying that disabled or useless enough to cause disruption and produce poor outcomes for the other students.

Not to difficult to comprehend is it?

It wasn't that long ago the all students were separated based on ability, saves wasting everyone times with those who just don't 'cut the mustard'

You are what you are, and just because you have high self esteem doesn't mean you're not thick as pig sh1t.

The old ways produced bad outcomes for everyone, including many in this thread who clearly have no empathy towards the otherly-abled because they have probably never spent any quality time with them as peers.

A great many people with disabilities are neither disruptive or "thick as pig sh1t".

They may not be disruptive, they may just need an inordinate amount of the teachers time. This occurred in my daughters year 3 class and 25 kids were short changed on attention from the teacher.

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Re: Hanson on Autistic kids
Reply #342 - Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 4:08pm

Gordon wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 4:06pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 4:00pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 3:57pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 3:41pm:

Nobody has suggested that severely disabled children attend regular school.

Calm your farm.

Never actually said 'severely', nice try. Grin

I am saying that disabled or useless enough to cause disruption and produce poor outcomes for the other students.

Not to difficult to comprehend is it?

It wasn't that long ago the all students were separated based on ability, saves wasting everyone times with those who just don't 'cut the mustard'

You are what you are, and just because you have high self esteem doesn't mean you're not thick as pig sh1t.

The old ways produced bad outcomes for everyone, including many in this thread who clearly have no empathy towards the otherly-abled because they have probably never spent any quality time with them as peers.

A great many people with disabilities are neither disruptive or "thick as pig sh1t".

They may not be disruptive, they may just need an inordinate amount of the teachers time. This occurred in my daughters year 3 class and 25 kids were short changed on attention from the teacher.

And they may not.

But similarly, so may a child with emotional problems, learning difficulties, ADD?ADHD etc.

Where is this line drawn?

Or, as i have been saying to you all thread, is not the only obvious solution smaller class sizes, better teacher training and teacher's aides?

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Re: Hanson on Autistic kids
Reply #343 - Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 4:11pm

mothra wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 4:00pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 3:57pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 3:41pm:

Nobody has suggested that severely disabled children attend regular school.

Calm your farm.

Never actually said 'severely', nice try. Grin

I am saying that disabled or useless enough to cause disruption and produce poor outcomes for the other students.

Not to difficult to comprehend is it?

It wasn't that long ago the all students were separated based on ability, saves wasting everyone times with those who just don't 'cut the mustard'

You are what you are, and just because you have high self esteem doesn't mean you're not thick as pig sh1t.

The old ways produced bad outcomes for everyone, including many in this thread who clearly have no empathy towards the otherly-abled because they have probably never spent any quality time with them as peers.

A great many people with disabilities are neither disruptive or "thick as pig sh1t".

Then they are NOT the ones Im talking about OBVIOUSLY.

Is english not your first or even your second fkking language?

Keeping the stupid disruptive kids away from the smart focused kids is a dumb outcome how exactly?

Prevents them from becoming super best friends forever. Grin

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Re: Hanson on Autistic kids
Reply #344 - Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 4:12pm

cods wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 4:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 3:46pm:

cods wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 3:43pm:

For an old woman, you sure are childish

at least I am not RUDE.. Angry

if thats the best you have then dont bother..

at least I answered you..

I was going to say you are RUDE when people dont agree with your command..

so you dismiss them with a comment like

have you read the OP.. Sad

..but I didnt want to come down to your level..

so now its OLD WOMEN>.

nice one..

that will be even harder to beat....should I ever feel like stooping that low..

you and someone else on here have pretty low standards when it comes to debateing...btw mothra..

when I make a post its never to you unless stated...

so there really is no need for your nasty replies..

save them for all the others....

Are you a young man, cods?

what is that comment meant to be?

A simple question.

You object to being called an old woman.

However, I was under the impression that you were:

a) elderly

b) female

If so, wouldn't that make you an old woman?

Perhaps I'm wrong though: maybe you're a young man.

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