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Reply #45 - Jun 23rd, 2017 at 8:31am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 23rd, 2017 at 8:01am:
All this talk and apparent compassion for children's live when they're unborn, but the exact same people seem to stop caring once they're born as many of the posters in here are calling for support for Hanson's comments to segregate all children with ASD.  Just like the Repiblicans in the US.  When it comes to telling a women what she can or can't do with her body they're all about the children, but once they're born they don't give a bugger.



yes, i agree with that sad.
these decisions are private matters and have bugger all to do with politicians .
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Reply #46 - Jun 24th, 2017 at 5:37pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 22nd, 2017 at 1:03pm:
Valkie wrote on Jun 22nd, 2017 at 12:14pm:
Taking the life of an unborn human is not right.

OK so it the woman's body, but the child didn't ask to be conceived, it is an innocent that will be cruelly murdered, often for no good reason.

Fair enough if the child will be unhealthy or the mothers life is in danger and the child unable to live a normal healthy life.
But if the woman didn't want the child she should not have engaged in the first place.
Rape is also no excuse for the termination of an unborn.
If the child is healthy, give it to one of the many thousands of people who cannot have children and desperately want them.

My granddaughter was born of an abusive and seriously twisted father.
He and I eventually came to blows, he is now no longer involved with our family in any way, and he had better not try while I'm alive.
But my granddaughter is a joy for my wife and I, she is a perfect child, intelligent, happy and a joy to have.
My daughter loves her dearly as does her new dad.

Imagine all that would have been missed had my daughter had an abortion?



Horses for courses. Plus do you consider a 10-12 week old foetus alive?


A simple answer......yes.

My wife lost 4 children when we were trying to have a family.
Each one was mourned.
We were blessed with three.
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Reply #47 - Jun 24th, 2017 at 5:41pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 23rd, 2017 at 8:01am:
All this talk and apparent compassion for children's live when they're unborn, but the exact same people seem to stop caring once they're born as many of the posters in here are calling for support for Hanson's comments to segregate all children with ASD.  Just like the Repiblicans in the US.  When it comes to telling a women what she can or can't do with her body they're all about the children, but once they're born they don't give a bugger.


Every child should be loved and given every opportunity.
But your reference to the ASD debate shows just how far out of touch you are.
Placing children into classes where they do not fit is bad for the child, bad for the otger children and bad for the teacher.
All simply to make the parents of the ASD child feel better.

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Reply #48 - Jun 24th, 2017 at 6:02pm
 
I'm totally supportive of women on Pro-Abortion.

Yes - it is sad that there must be an act of 'abortion' in the first place, but considering that a under-aged young girl has been raped by her step-dad and impregnated (which is considered a 'Porn Fantasy' on many porn sites ...much like women shaving their vaginas to arouse 'infantilism' for men ) - she may DIE in the act of giving birth, let alone lack the support to raise the child after she survives.

We all know the 'convict' past of Australia - sent here because the birth-rate in the UK was in plague proportions which resulted in desperate acts of crime just to attain food.

Since then, the SHAME OF PROCREATION has been a shadow of Australian culture and hence why our Population growth has always been 'minimal', sometimes in Recession and women have been aiming for 'career' and 'money' orientated lifestyles.
In one year we had...
Juliar Gillard as Prime Minister (Power)
Quentin Bryce as Gov-Gen (Cultural Superiority ...being British)
Gina Reinhart as Richest person (Money)

If Australian women have children, especially out of wedlock - its considered as "Houso", "Westie" & "Bogun"
, to be poor with kids. A 'cultural' SHAME.

So Australia, with its high suicide rate and 'minimalistic' population growth - relies heavily on 'immigration'.
The 'financial lifestyle' of Australia has also changed since the year 2000.
Now its an accelerated strive for Money, power, etc.
Australia has gone from the 'Lucky Country' to the 'RIP-OFF country' as everything has skyrocketed in 'cost of living'.

Easy to do, being a 'rich, over-indulgent' nation when you don't have as many mouths to feed.
Australia is 'over-achieving' something fierce!

So the shame of Abortion is unjustified,
especially when it's been exploited to hide the fact of something more sinister on a larger scale.

Lets face it also.
When it comes to Australian Politics as it currently is - there is no way the Government(s) can cope with the responsibility of an Australian population the size of the USA.
It's a 'default' (or bull****) existence of National Wealth - when you keep the National population growth 'aborted'.

Millions of people around the world try to 'smuggle' into this country ILLEGALLY because they are enticed by the 'Rich White Lifestyles' that are pumped out via TV continuously. Rich white people needing poor destitute foreigners.

This country is out of control.

Respect a woman's choice for personal abortion.
But say "No" to our national abortion 'control' methods of minimalistic population growth.
So screw you Jerry Harvey, Dick Smith & Co.
Its not 'about the Money' especially when we were living in the 'lucky' country to begin with. How much money do you need?
If Australia can have a self-sufficient population growth that exceeds immigration levels - then I can see a perfect example and justification for expressions of so-called 'Aussie patriotism'.

Save the woman (girl) and not the Government's 'wealth'.
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Reply #50 - Jan 22nd, 2018 at 8:54pm
 
mothra wrote on Jun 21st, 2017 at 11:52am:
Laws across Australia:

ACT: abortion was decriminalised in 2002

NSW: abortion is unlawful, but 1971 ruling established abortion would be lawful if doctor believed there was "any economic, social or medical ground or reason" woman could not continue with pregnancy

NT: abortion is legal up to 14 weeks if "maternal health ground" or "fetal disability ground" is satisfied

SA: abortion is legal up to 28 weeks of conception, provided "maternal health" or "fetal disability" ground is satisfied

TAS: abortion is legal up to 16 weeks of pregnancy

QLD: abortion is a crime under the Criminal Code Act unless mother's physical or mental health is affected

VIC: abortion is legal up to 24 weeks of pregnancy

WA: abortion is legal up to 20 weeks of pregnancy

Source: Parliament of Australia


Bit misleading don't you think mothra?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Australia#Queensland

Abortions are carried out as "therapeutic miscarriages", performed by specialists, upon request of the patient after an appointment with their local GP. This procedure is only applicable to pregnancies less than 22 weeks and is partly covered by Medicare or more-so by private healthcare insurers. In addition to this, abortions can be performed if a foetal defect is considered to be "inconsistent with life" – this has been narrowly interpreted to mean that the newborn would die immediately or shortly after birth. While this is the case under law, in practice doctors and family planning services generally allow abortions for other reasons, such as the mother not feeling ready to have a child.
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Reply #51 - Jan 22nd, 2018 at 9:21pm
 
freediver wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 8:54pm:
mothra wrote on Jun 21st, 2017 at 11:52am:
Laws across Australia:

ACT: abortion was decriminalised in 2002

NSW: abortion is unlawful, but 1971 ruling established abortion would be lawful if doctor believed there was "any economic, social or medical ground or reason" woman could not continue with pregnancy

NT: abortion is legal up to 14 weeks if "maternal health ground" or "fetal disability ground" is satisfied

SA: abortion is legal up to 28 weeks of conception, provided "maternal health" or "fetal disability" ground is satisfied

TAS: abortion is legal up to 16 weeks of pregnancy

QLD: abortion is a crime under the Criminal Code Act unless mother's physical or mental health is affected

VIC: abortion is legal up to 24 weeks of pregnancy

WA: abortion is legal up to 20 weeks of pregnancy

Source: Parliament of Australia


Bit misleading don't you think mothra?


Abortions are carried out as "therapeutic miscarriages", performed by specialists, upon request of the patient after an appointment with their local GP. This procedure is only applicable to pregnancies less than 22 weeks and is partly covered by Medicare or more-so by private healthcare insurers. In addition to this, abortions can be performed if a foetal defect is considered to be "inconsistent with life" – this has been narrowly interpreted to mean that the newborn would die immediately or shortly after birth. While this is the case under law, in practice doctors and family planning services generally allow abortions for other reasons, such as the mother not feeling ready to have a child.


Not much point responding like that to someone that is banned from here. You obviously can't get an answer.
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Reply #52 - Jan 22nd, 2018 at 9:36pm
 
Not feeling ready to have a child eh?

Reason for abortion???

Well my response to that is this :

What woman in her right mind would ever feel ready to go through months of morning sickness, devastating  body changes, stretch marks all over her growing abdomen and breasts, inability to relax and get any sleep because of a bulging watermelon type structure in her tummy....then be required to push said watermelon type structure through a tiny hole?

And what woman in her right mind would be ready to go through the pain of childbirth only to face that strange little alien that comes up to look at you and you're left thinking  OMG what is that???

And finally....what woman in her right mind would want to have said strange little alien placed on her breast ONLY to find it biting you and drawing liquid stuff out of you?

Yet I've got 4 freaking kids and I can assure you I was never ready to have them. I had to have a general anaesthetic and a Caesarean section in order to cope with the trauma of not being ready to have children.

But they're here and I'm glad that they are.

Well I'm mostly glad. If they're naughty I'm not glad.

God I'm glad I don't have to bloody breastfeed either. VERY trying and tiring work.

What annoys me most is that I'm going to have to lie to my girls about all this one day because I know they're never gonna be ready to have kids either if I tell them the bloody painful truth!



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Reply #53 - Jan 22nd, 2018 at 9:42pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 9:36pm:
Not feeling ready to have a child eh?

Reason for abortion???

Well my response to that is this :

What woman in her right mind would ever feel ready to go through months of morning sickness, devastating  body changes, stretch marks all over her growing abdomen and breasts, inability to relax and get any sleep because of a bulging watermelon type structure in her tummy....then be required to push said watermelon type structure through a tiny hole?

And what woman in her right mind would be ready to go through the pain of childbirth only to face that strange little alien that comes up to look at you and you're left thinking  OMG what is that???

And finally....what woman in her right mind would want to have said strange little alien placed on her breast ONLY to find it biting you and drawing liquid stuff out of you?

Yet I've got 4 freaking kids and I can assure you I was never ready to have them. I had to have a general anaesthetic and a Caesarean section in order to cope with the trauma of not being ready to have children.

But they're here and I'm glad that they are.

Well I'm mostly glad. If they're naughty I'm not glad.

God I'm glad I don't have to bloody breastfeed either. VERY trying and tiring work.

What annoys me most is that I'm going to have to lie to my girls about all this one day because I know they're never gonna be ready to have kids either if I tell them the bloody painful truth!



If what you say is true, most women are not in their right mind. Undecided
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Reply #54 - Jan 22nd, 2018 at 9:59pm
 
Cu Chulainn wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 9:42pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 9:36pm:
Not feeling ready to have a child eh?

Reason for abortion???

Well my response to that is this :

What woman in her right mind would ever feel ready to go through months of morning sickness, devastating  body changes, stretch marks all over her growing abdomen and breasts, inability to relax and get any sleep because of a bulging watermelon type structure in her tummy....then be required to push said watermelon type structure through a tiny hole?

And what woman in her right mind would be ready to go through the pain of childbirth only to face that strange little alien that comes up to look at you and you're left thinking  OMG what is that???

And finally....what woman in her right mind would want to have said strange little alien placed on her breast ONLY to find it biting you and drawing liquid stuff out of you?

Yet I've got 4 freaking kids and I can assure you I was never ready to have them. I had to have a general anaesthetic and a Caesarean section in order to cope with the trauma of not being ready to have children.

But they're here and I'm glad that they are.

Well I'm mostly glad. If they're naughty I'm not glad.

God I'm glad I don't have to bloody breastfeed either. VERY trying and tiring work.

What annoys me most is that I'm going to have to lie to my girls about all this one day because I know they're never gonna be ready to have kids either if I tell them the bloody painful truth!



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Ahhh but to feel ready.....

That was the point!

No woman could ever truly feel ready for such a daunting and arduous journey.

NB I was addressing the ridiculous notion of NOT FEELING READY as a valid reason for having an abortion.

Sorry but I do firmly believe that women need more support so as to encourage them to feel more confident. They're never going to feel ready...but they sure as hell should be given every opportunity to feel supported and encouraged.

Now as regards our kids....I'm fully prepared to lie about the harrowing experience of childbirth etc by saying it's all lovely and awesome etc. Otherwise I'm never going to see any grandkids. Ok?




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Reply #55 - Jan 22nd, 2018 at 10:09pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 9:59pm:
Cu Chulainn wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 9:42pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 9:36pm:
Not feeling ready to have a child eh?

Reason for abortion???

Well my response to that is this :

What woman in her right mind would ever feel ready to go through months of morning sickness, devastating  body changes, stretch marks all over her growing abdomen and breasts, inability to relax and get any sleep because of a bulging watermelon type structure in her tummy....then be required to push said watermelon type structure through a tiny hole?

And what woman in her right mind would be ready to go through the pain of childbirth only to face that strange little alien that comes up to look at you and you're left thinking  OMG what is that???

And finally....what woman in her right mind would want to have said strange little alien placed on her breast ONLY to find it biting you and drawing liquid stuff out of you?

Yet I've got 4 freaking kids and I can assure you I was never ready to have them. I had to have a general anaesthetic and a Caesarean section in order to cope with the trauma of not being ready to have children.

But they're here and I'm glad that they are.

Well I'm mostly glad. If they're naughty I'm not glad.

God I'm glad I don't have to bloody breastfeed either. VERY trying and tiring work.

What annoys me most is that I'm going to have to lie to my girls about all this one day because I know they're never gonna be ready to have kids either if I tell them the bloody painful truth!



If what you say is true, most women are not in their right mind. Undecided


Ahhh but to feel ready.....

That was the point!

No woman could ever truly feel ready for such a daunting and arduous journey.

NB I was addressing the ridiculous notion of NOT FEELING READY as a valid reason for having an abortion.

Sorry but I do firmly believe that women need more support so as to encourage them to feel more confident. They're never going to feel ready...but they sure as hell should be given every opportunity to feel supported and encouraged.

Now as regards our kids....I'm fully prepared to lie about the harrowing experience of childbirth etc by saying it's all lovely and awesome etc. Otherwise I'm never going to see any grandkids. Ok?



My wife enjoyed her pregnancies and although the end, the labour, was a hard job, the first was 36 hours, she was ecstatic. When it was over, the joy on her face lit up the room. She told me she could easily go through labour knowing what the reward for her travail was. She never took drugs, had spinal blocks, etc, not even a sniff of gas. She knew what she was doing and revelled in it.

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Reply #56 - Jan 22nd, 2018 at 10:11pm
 
Cu Chulainn wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 9:21pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 8:54pm:
mothra wrote on Jun 21st, 2017 at 11:52am:
Laws across Australia:

ACT: abortion was decriminalised in 2002

NSW: abortion is unlawful, but 1971 ruling established abortion would be lawful if doctor believed there was "any economic, social or medical ground or reason" woman could not continue with pregnancy

NT: abortion is legal up to 14 weeks if "maternal health ground" or "fetal disability ground" is satisfied

SA: abortion is legal up to 28 weeks of conception, provided "maternal health" or "fetal disability" ground is satisfied

TAS: abortion is legal up to 16 weeks of pregnancy

QLD: abortion is a crime under the Criminal Code Act unless mother's physical or mental health is affected

VIC: abortion is legal up to 24 weeks of pregnancy

WA: abortion is legal up to 20 weeks of pregnancy

Source: Parliament of Australia


Bit misleading don't you think mothra?


Abortions are carried out as "therapeutic miscarriages", performed by specialists, upon request of the patient after an appointment with their local GP. This procedure is only applicable to pregnancies less than 22 weeks and is partly covered by Medicare or more-so by private healthcare insurers. In addition to this, abortions can be performed if a foetal defect is considered to be "inconsistent with life" – this has been narrowly interpreted to mean that the newborn would die immediately or shortly after birth. While this is the case under law, in practice doctors and family planning services generally allow abortions for other reasons, such as the mother not feeling ready to have a child.


Not much point responding like that to someone that is banned from here. You obviously can't get an answer.
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Well, if ever a truth was posted here, that would be it.  FD....how can she respond while you have her under a ban?
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Reply #57 - Jan 22nd, 2018 at 10:12pm
 
Cu Chulainn wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 10:09pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 9:59pm:
Cu Chulainn wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 9:42pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 9:36pm:
Not feeling ready to have a child eh?

Reason for abortion???

Well my response to that is this :

What woman in her right mind would ever feel ready to go through months of morning sickness, devastating  body changes, stretch marks all over her growing abdomen and breasts, inability to relax and get any sleep because of a bulging watermelon type structure in her tummy....then be required to push said watermelon type structure through a tiny hole?

And what woman in her right mind would be ready to go through the pain of childbirth only to face that strange little alien that comes up to look at you and you're left thinking  OMG what is that???

And finally....what woman in her right mind would want to have said strange little alien placed on her breast ONLY to find it biting you and drawing liquid stuff out of you?

Yet I've got 4 freaking kids and I can assure you I was never ready to have them. I had to have a general anaesthetic and a Caesarean section in order to cope with the trauma of not being ready to have children.

But they're here and I'm glad that they are.

Well I'm mostly glad. If they're naughty I'm not glad.

God I'm glad I don't have to bloody breastfeed either. VERY trying and tiring work.

What annoys me most is that I'm going to have to lie to my girls about all this one day because I know they're never gonna be ready to have kids either if I tell them the bloody painful truth!



If what you say is true, most women are not in their right mind. Undecided


Ahhh but to feel ready.....

That was the point!

No woman could ever truly feel ready for such a daunting and arduous journey.

NB I was addressing the ridiculous notion of NOT FEELING READY as a valid reason for having an abortion.

Sorry but I do firmly believe that women need more support so as to encourage them to feel more confident. They're never going to feel ready...but they sure as hell should be given every opportunity to feel supported and encouraged.

Now as regards our kids....I'm fully prepared to lie about the harrowing experience of childbirth etc by saying it's all lovely and awesome etc. Otherwise I'm never going to see any grandkids. Ok?



My wife enjoyed her pregnancies and although the end, the labour, was a hard job, the first was 36 hours, she was ecstatic. When it was over, the joy on her face lit up the room. She told me she could easily go through labour knowing what the reward for her travail was. She never took drugs, had spinal blocks, etc, not even a sniff of gas. She knew what she was doing and revelled in it.



Yep ^^^^^ That's the bullshit I'm gonna tell my kids too 😂

Look I guess I don't want my awful experiences re childbirth etc to burden them in any way. The journey is hard enough without me telling them the truth about what happened. Am I being protective? Damn... it's what we mums do! Plus I do hope to see grandkids one day  Tongue
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And what woman in her right mind would be ready to go through the pain of childbirth only to face that strange little alien that comes up to look at you and you're left thinking  OMG what is that???

And finally....what woman in her right mind would want to have said strange little alien placed on her breast ONLY to find it biting you and drawing liquid stuff out of you?


You would be the very first woman I have ever heard describe her just born child as an alien, and ~ as an alien who bites your breast.  Bites?  With what?  Were your aliens born with teeth?
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Reply #59 - Jan 22nd, 2018 at 10:19pm
 
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And what woman in her right mind would be ready to go through the pain of childbirth only to face that strange little alien that comes up to look at you and you're left thinking  OMG what is that???

And finally....what woman in her right mind would want to have said strange little alien placed on her breast ONLY to find it biting you and drawing liquid stuff out of you?


You would be the very first woman I have ever heard describe her just born child as an alien, and ~ as an alien who bites your breast.  Bites?  With what?  Were your aliens born with teeth?


Just abiut everyone affectionately calls their new borns little aliens.  It's not literal.

You don't have biological children,  do you?
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