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The Quran states that a woman is half a man': Why an Australian Muslim couple turned their backs on Islam because it is a 'religion of war' riddled with 'venomous misogyny'

Couple Sami Shah and Ishma Alvi both grew up as Muslims but since left Islam

Melbourne-based couple have told why they both turned their backs on religion

They cited extremism, sexism and misogyny as key reasons for their decisions

Mr Shah, an author, has written a new book, The Islamic Republic of Australia

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A couple who both grew up as Muslims in Pakistan have told why they turned their backs on Islam.

Sami Shah and Ishma Alvi, who became Australian citizens in January and live in Melbourne with their young daughter, said extremism, sexism and misogyny were key reasons why they opted out of the religion. 

The couple also explained the reasons for their transition by citing passages from the Quran, which Mr Shah has described as 'maddening as a text'.

An edited extract from Mr Shah's latest book, The Islamic Republic of Australia, which details the move from Muslim to non-Muslim was published in The Weekend Australian magazine on Saturday.

The book also 'is an entertaining and fascinating snapshot of Islam down under today' and 'takes us behind the stereotypes and generalisations to find out who Australian Muslims are', an overview of the title says.

'The religion I had been told my entire life was a religion of peace - an argument I myself had propagated when ­confronted with Islam's critics while studying in America - was ­comfortably being used as a ­religion of war.'

Mr Shah said he was happy to now be living in Australia where he did not have his daily life heavily influenced by Islam and for his daughter to have the same freedoms and he enjoys. 

Ms Alvi, a psychologist, said she believed Islam was not female-positive, a notion she first came to when she was aged 17.
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Reply #1 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 9:19pm
 
Welcome to Australia,  guys.



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Reply #2 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 9:22pm
 
Gordon wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 9:19pm:
Welcome to Australia,  guys.





Exactly.

That news article made my day.  Smiley



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Reply #3 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 9:27pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 9:22pm:
Gordon wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 9:19pm:
Welcome to Australia,  guys.





Exactly.

That news article made my day.  Smiley






Australia should be an ark for people who want to escape their regressive religion or culture.
Coming here for just the clean air and bling isn't a good enough reason.

Come hereby for the progressive life or stay put.
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Reply #4 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 9:29pm
 
One would think that the whole point of moving your family to another country would be because you like the culture of said country and want to share in it and live that way.
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Reply #5 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 9:33pm
 
Black Orchid wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 9:29pm:
One would think that the whole point of moving your family to another country would be because you like the culture of said country and want to share in it and live that way.


My parents and relatives came from Europe to Australia for those reasons.

Coming to Australia was the best thing they ever did...well that's what they used to say to us all the time.




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Reply #6 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 9:42pm
 
Black Orchid wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 9:29pm:
One would think that the whole point of moving your family to another country would be because you like the culture of said country and want to share in it and live that way.


Nobody is saying they have to put thongs and king gee shorts on the day they arrive. Bring the best bits of your culture and adopt the best bits of ours.
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Reply #7 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 11:44pm
 
Never knew a woman yet who was 'half a man' - they are goddesses and the repository of both Heaven and Hell on earth....

They are FAR better than men..... we only serve.....
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ahhhh grap you are finally seeing the light..

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 11:44pm:
Never knew a woman yet who was 'half a man' - they are goddesses and the repository of both Heaven and Hell on earth....

They are FAR better than men..... we only serve.....


Wash your mouth out Feminist! Grin
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set only serves one master  fd..
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Reply #11 - Jun 19th, 2017 at 12:07am
 
cods wrote on Jun 19th, 2017 at 12:02am:
set only serves one master  fd..


Set only serves one master here, fairness as much as it can be, outside of here he serves himself and his family and the homeless.

Cods, I've never been one to do what I'm told if I disagree. Many years ago, as a mech, I was told to do things like put bald tyres on rims, ignore oil leaks etc. I refused and told the boss if you want that done, you do it, I'm not, and gave my rant as to why. They would get someone else to be unethical or do it themselves. My word and ethics mean the world to me, I would not compromise them for anyone.
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Reply #12 - Jun 19th, 2017 at 12:22am
 
cods wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 11:51pm:
ahhhh grap you are finally seeing the light..



I know.. Oh, I Know....
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Reply #13 - Jun 19th, 2017 at 12:24am
 
Setanta wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 11:57pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 11:44pm:
Never knew a woman yet who was 'half a man' - they are goddesses and the repository of both Heaven and Hell on earth....

They are FAR better than men..... we only serve.....


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Reply #14 - Jun 19th, 2017 at 12:26am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 19th, 2017 at 12:24am:
Setanta wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 11:57pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 11:44pm:
Never knew a woman yet who was 'half a man' - they are goddesses and the repository of both Heaven and Hell on earth....

They are FAR better than men..... we only serve.....


Wash your mouth out Feminist! Grin


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If you can't have fun online - why bother.... **spits again**


Hmm.. Beer... Setanta walks to the fridge.
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