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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 39534	The reality of what unfettered gun ownership does Jun 14^th, 2017 at 10:41pm The reality of what unfettered gun ownership does in the USA. Tsk, tsk. Whose next? President Trump?
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Reply #1 - Jun 15^th, 2017 at 10:14pm

The Left strikes again! This is the type of thing you have wanted to happen. Everyday a new attack on President Trump, his Administration and anyone who even remotely supports any of his promises. Now we have someone who took it one small step farther and all I see is you moaning about unfettered gun ownership.

One of the weak minded fulfilled a small part of the Liberal fantasy.
http://thegrio.com/2017/06/06/senators-stab-trump-to-death-during-shakespeare-in...

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 57150 Here Gender:	Re: The reality of what unfettered gun ownership does Reply #2 - Jun 15^th, 2017 at 11:00pm Who could complain, I can not imagine going to the base ball without a rifle ? What would be the point ?
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Mortdooley Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6778 Texas Gulf Coast Gender:	Re: The reality of what unfettered gun ownership does Reply #3 - Jun 16^th, 2017 at 12:08am Just another Bernie supporter who reached his breaking point. He must have been very frustrated he wouldn't get his fair share of free sh1t under Trump.
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 39534	Re: The reality of what unfettered gun ownership does Reply #4 - Jun 16^th, 2017 at 9:47pm I know my point was apolitical. Doesn't matter if its a member of the loony left or right. They have access to guns. They use them. You lot don't appear to care that some innocent people died and been wounded.
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Mortdooley Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6778 Texas Gulf Coast Gender:	Re: The reality of what unfettered gun ownership does Reply #5 - Jun 17^th, 2017 at 1:07am This shooting was instigated by the Left and their continual attacks on Trump and anyone who agrees with any of his proposals. The Left is responsible for feeding this angry individual their hateful rhetoric!
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Reply #6 - Jun 17^th, 2017 at 1:32am

Why am I reminded of the Monty Python Gumbos chanting "Spam! Spam! Spam!"? Except of course this time it's "Gun! Guns! Guns!". Mort, how many times have right wingers used their guns to kill innocent people? How many times have left wingers? Doesn't matter which way their politics lean, it's the ready availability of guns which is the problem. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Reply #7 - Jun 17^th, 2017 at 1:43am

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 17^th, 2017 at 1:32am:

Why am I reminded of the Monty Python Gumbos chanting "Spam! Spam! Spam!"? Except of course this time it's "Gun! Guns! Guns!". Mort, how many times have right wingers used their guns to kill innocent people? How many times have left wingers? Doesn't matter which way their politics lean, it's the ready availability of guns which is the problem. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Ninety-nine times out of a hundred it is the Left who commit gun crimes.

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Reply #8 - Jun 17^th, 2017 at 4:08pm

Mortdooley wrote on Jun 17^th, 2017 at 1:43am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 17^th, 2017 at 1:32am:

Why am I reminded of the Monty Python Gumbos chanting "Spam! Spam! Spam!"? Except of course this time it's "Gun! Guns! Guns!". Mort, how many times have right wingers used their guns to kill innocent people? How many times have left wingers? Doesn't matter which way their politics lean, it's the ready availability of guns which is the problem. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Ninety-nine times out of a hundred it is the Left who commit gun crimes.

I agree with Brian.....it's the availability of guns that's the problem..........available to the progressive left & the democrats that is, because to date I haven't found a mass shooter registered to anything but the democrat party in America.

So, if anyone wants to legally purchase a firearm, they should be refused if they are a convicted felon.......if they have been diagnosed with a violent form of mental illness/insanity.........or if they have voted democrat in the last 8 years........or are a registered democrat. All others are fine for owning & carrying a firearm......Brian will whinge, but he must eventually come to the stark reality that not living in, or being a citizen of America, he has only his words to say anything about what American Rights are.

Individual Americans have the Inalienable Constitutional Right to own & carry/use Firearms, & Brian can't do a damn thing about it.....nor can the American Government.

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Reply #9 - Jun 17^th, 2017 at 5:08pm

Oh, dear, still stuck on the politics of the shooter argument. Tsk, tsk, it doesn't matter what the politics of the shooter is because both members of the Left and of the Right, indeed, more often than not, they are members of the Right, are prone to gun violence in America. How often do we read about this or that person who was a supporter of the Right wing of politics losing their wick and going on a shooting rampage? If it was only one side, you'd be right but it isn't, its actually both sides which has access to guns and misuses them. Roll Eyes

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Reply #10 - Jun 17^th, 2017 at 5:12pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 17^th, 2017 at 5:08pm:

Oh, dear, still stuck on the politics of the shooter argument. Tsk, tsk, it doesn't matter what the politics of the shooter is because both members of the Left and of the Right, indeed, more often than not, they are members of the Right, are prone to gun violence in America. How often do we read about this or that person who was a supporter of the Right wing of politics losing their wick and going on a shooting rampage? If it was only one side, you'd be right but it isn't, its actually both sides which has access to guns and misuses them. Roll Eyes

they are members of the Right, are prone to gun violence in America......

I didn't know American negros are politically right?

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Reply #11 - Jun 17^th, 2017 at 5:14pm

Let me ask the pro-gun rights advocate a question: why does Japan have a low homicide rate whilst at the same time having strict gun ownership laws?

Japan has a murder rate of 'fewer than one person per 100,000 persons', according to this article. https://www.businessinsider.com.au/why-japans-murder-rate-is-so-low-2014-4?r=US&...

Your answer will reveal the truth about why you really support gun ownership.

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Reply #12 - Jun 17^th, 2017 at 5:16pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 17^th, 2017 at 5:14pm:

Let me ask the pro-gun rights advocate a question: why does Japan have a low homicide rate whilst at the same time having strict gun ownership laws?

Japan has a murder rate of 'fewer than one person per 100,000 persons', according to this article. https://www.businessinsider.com.au/why-japans-murder-rate-is-so-low-2014-4?r=US&...

Your answer will reveal the truth about why you really support gun ownership.

It may be because Japan is a monoculture. Monocultures seem to be more stable.

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Reply #13 - Jun 17^th, 2017 at 5:19pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 17^th, 2017 at 5:16pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 17^th, 2017 at 5:14pm:

Let me ask the pro-gun rights advocate a question: why does Japan have a low homicide rate whilst at the same time having strict gun ownership laws?

Japan has a murder rate of 'fewer than one person per 100,000 persons', according to this article. https://www.businessinsider.com.au/why-japans-murder-rate-is-so-low-2014-4?r=US&...

Your answer will reveal the truth about why you really support gun ownership.

It may be because Japan is a monoculture. Monocultures seem to be more stable.

Ah! Gotcha!!!

So, according to you, America has a higher rate of crime because of ethnic diversity and therefore IN THE AMERICAN CONTEXT gun ownership is necessary.

But then, YOU MUST contend that such gun ownership is NOT NECESSARY IN AUSTRALIA.

Ergo, gun ownership is not about 'rights' but about protecting oneself in a DANGEROUS SOCIETY.

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Reply #14 - Jun 17^th, 2017 at 5:22pm

The question then becomes:

WHY IS THE SOCIETY DANGEROUS?

Now, I DON'T believe that it's due to multiculturalism, but due to social factors. Therefore, if you agree that crime is caused by social factors, and also support gun ownership, then the real problem is social and can be fixed. Even if you argue that multicultural societies are more prone to higher rates of violence, then the real problem has nothing to do with gun rights or gun ownership, but social issues.

So, why are gun rights' activists always harping on about 'the right to own a gun?.

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