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Re: Hate- why do muslims hate
Reply #15 - May 28^th, 2017 at 7:38pm

Ajax wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 7:28pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 7:24pm:

Ajax wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 7:23pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 7:20pm:

Ajax wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 7:17pm:

Auggie wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 7:12pm:

These extremists hate:

1) the freedom of the individual;

2) the liberation of women;

3) religious pluralism;

4) our high standard of living;

5) strong government and civil institutions.

Before 9/11 islam was considered a peaceful religion.

Muhamid Ali became a muslim so he didn't have to go to Vietnam because it was against the religion to kill.

After 9/11 George W Bush et al all muslims are terrorists and islam is a wicked religion.

Before 9/11 peaceful????? Grin

You should do some investigating....!!!

It hasn't mate. The Muslim world has been war riddled for hundreds of years.

Yes I agree this is true BUT only because they have oil and only because the west has meddled in their affairs imo.

They might still have had wars against each other but if the world leaders instead of fueling the conflict demanded peace I'm sure it wouldn't be as bad as it is today.

That's not true. They had a few wars trying to push the Jews into the sea. They've had wars over territory. They've had war over religion. They've had wars with various political groups pushing for control. There's loads of reasons Muslim countries have gone to war. One of the biggest things they fight over is the Sunni and Shia divide.

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Re: Hate- why do muslims hate
Reply #16 - May 28^th, 2017 at 7:39pm

Mr Hammer wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 7:24pm:

Ajax wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 7:23pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 7:20pm:

Ajax wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 7:17pm:

Auggie wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 7:12pm:

These extremists hate:

1) the freedom of the individual;

2) the liberation of women;

3) religious pluralism;

4) our high standard of living;

5) strong government and civil institutions.

Before 9/11 islam was considered a peaceful religion.

Muhamid Ali became a muslim so he didn't have to go to Vietnam because it was against the religion to kill.

After 9/11 George W Bush et al all muslims are terrorists and islam is a wicked religion.

Before 9/11 peaceful????? Grin

You should do some investigating....!!!

It hasn't mate. The Muslim world has been war riddled for hundreds of years.

for over 1000 year s

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Re: Hate- why do muslims hate
Reply #17 - May 28^th, 2017 at 7:43pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 7:39pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 7:24pm:

Ajax wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 7:23pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 7:20pm:

Ajax wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 7:17pm:

Auggie wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 7:12pm:

These extremists hate:

1) the freedom of the individual;

2) the liberation of women;

3) religious pluralism;

4) our high standard of living;

5) strong government and civil institutions.

Before 9/11 islam was considered a peaceful religion.

Muhamid Ali became a muslim so he didn't have to go to Vietnam because it was against the religion to kill.

After 9/11 George W Bush et al all muslims are terrorists and islam is a wicked religion.

Before 9/11 peaceful????? Grin

You should do some investigating....!!!

It hasn't mate. The Muslim world has been war riddled for hundreds of years.

for over 1000 year s

ajax reckons islam was peaceful before 9/11 sprint.

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Auggie Gold Member Offline The Bull Moose Posts: 8571	Re: Hate- why do muslims hate Reply #18 - May 28^th, 2017 at 9:27pm Muslims don't hate us, only Islamist extremists hate us.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Hate- why do muslims hate Reply #19 - May 28^th, 2017 at 10:55pm care to quantify that statement and while you are at it provide a method of telling Islamist Fundis from the rest...
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Auggie Gold Member Offline The Bull Moose Posts: 8571	Re: Hate- why do muslims hate Reply #20 - May 28^th, 2017 at 10:57pm Grendel wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 10:55pm: care to quantify that statement and while you are at it provide a method of telling Islamist Fundis from the rest... And Islamist fundamentalist is someone who believes that the entire Quran is the Word of God.
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Reply #21 - May 28^th, 2017 at 10:59pm

Auggie wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 10:57pm:

Grendel wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 10:55pm:

care to quantify that statement and while you are at it provide a method of telling Islamist Fundis from the rest...

And Islamist fundamentalist is someone who believes that the entire Quran is the Word of God.

wasn't my question try again... QUANTIFY AND IDENTIFY.

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Re: Hate- why do muslims hate
Reply #22 - May 28^th, 2017 at 11:10pm

Grendel wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 10:59pm:

Auggie wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 10:57pm:

Grendel wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 10:55pm:

care to quantify that statement and while you are at it provide a method of telling Islamist Fundis from the rest...

And Islamist fundamentalist is someone who believes that the entire Quran is the Word of God.

wasn't my question try again... QUANTIFY AND IDENTIFY.

According to Brigitte Gabriel (whom I'm sure you know) the extremists make about 20-25% of the total Muslim population. In terms of identification, I cannot say with certainty.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Hate- why do muslims hate Reply #23 - May 28^th, 2017 at 11:29pm meh.... only her opinion. But that would be 250,000,000 people it took 19 to kill 1000s in 9/11. and yes no one can truly tell the difference between a murderous mad Muslim and a moderate. In Yemen they judge by clothing and beards apparently.
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