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When Will Childcare Workers Walk Off The Job
May 28th, 2017 at 7:41am
 
Childcare workers vote to walk off the job

Sydney Morning Herald
May 27 2017



Children will be sent home early from childcare centres in coming months, with thousands from the sector's female-dominated workforce voting to walk out in protest against the large pay gap between men and women.   Huh   

In a recent ballot, more than 3000 early childhood educators overwhelmingly voted in favour of "escalating" their battle for better wages with a series of national walkouts in coming months.

The move follows similar action in the sector earlier this year, coinciding with International Women's Day. Up to 1000 workers walked off the job, forcing hundreds of children to be sent home early from childcare centres all across Australia.

"Everyone knows how important early childhood educators' work is, and yet many educators earn just $20 an hour," said Helen Gibbons, assistant national secretary of childcare union United Voice.   Sad

"Educators have overwhelmingly endorsed walking off the job to win the professional pay they deserve."

Figures show childhood educators earn on average between $20-$23 an hour – a yearly wage of between $40,700 and $46,000 – depending on their level of qualification.

Early childhood teachers with a four-year bachelor's degree earn $29 an hour, or $58,000 a year, well below the $73,000 average income of primary school teachers.

Members of the United Voice union are fighting a landmark case in the Fair Work Commission, pushing for pay rises of between 39 per cent and 72 per cent. They are arguing that the 80,000-strong workforce is paid woefully less than men with similar qualifications because of an outdated notion that childcare is viewed as "women's work in the home".

Liberal Democrat senator David Leyonhjelm was heavily criticised earlier this year when he appeared on television and summarised the role of childcare workers as "wiping noses and stopping the kids from killing each other."

"For a very a very long time, it's been seen as a babysitter's role, and it's not," said childcare educator Samantha Grinham.   Sad

"We educate children, we care for children and, yes, they are under five, but the education and care they receive is very important ... just as important as it is in the primary and secondary sectors."

Ms Grinham and her 16 co-workers at the Windsor Community Children's Centre have decided to take part in the national walkout.

"The industrial action is going to get bigger," she said. "The last time it was 20 centres, but the next time IT might be closer to 40 or 50."

Union organisers anticipate staff from a range of community-run and for-profit providers will take part in the walkouts. Last year, the action was supported by the centres involved and "we will be working towards this again", a union spokeswoman said.

In the Fair Work Commission, childcare educators say their claim for a substantial hourly wage rise would go a long way in reducing the 16.2 per cent pay gap that exists between men and women in Australia.

The Australian Childcare Alliance points out that payroll was the "most significant expense facing childcare centre operators", but has stated the union's pay case was a matter for the independent industrial umpire.

"We think the commission is the appropriate organisation to be making decisions in relation to wages and wage claims," a spokesman said.
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Reply #1 - May 28th, 2017 at 10:05am
 
Get a degree, then man or woman there will be no wage inequality.
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1. There has never been a more serious assault on our standard of living than Anthropogenic Global Warming..Ajax
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Reply #2 - May 28th, 2017 at 11:00am
 
Ajax wrote on May 28th, 2017 at 10:05am:
Get a degree, then man or woman there will be no wage inequality.



There is no 'wage inequality' - there are variations in income based on multiple factors.  Everyone in the same job with the same grade gets the same minimum pay.... suggestions that somehow working in one sector disadvantages a person is but one of those factors - change sectors.

I foresee a future, under never-ending Affirmative Action, when women, being slotted into the nice warm spots with the nice income and super, will have more super than men on retirement - and then some will start saying - 'but women live longer so it's only fair'.... as the next justification for blatant discrimination in our society....

Jesus God....
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Reply #3 - May 28th, 2017 at 11:01am
 
Ajax wrote on May 28th, 2017 at 10:05am:
Get a degree, then man or woman there will be no wage inequality.


Maybe in fairy land.
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Reply #4 - May 28th, 2017 at 11:06am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 28th, 2017 at 11:00am:
Ajax wrote on May 28th, 2017 at 10:05am:
Get a degree, then man or woman there will be no wage inequality.



There is no 'wage inequality' - there are variations in income based on multiple factors.  Everyone in the same job with the same grade gets the same minimum pay.... suggestions that somehow working in one sector disadvantages a person is but one of those factors - change sectors.

I foresee a future, under never-ending Affirmative Action, when women, being slotted into the nice warm spots with the nice income and super, will have more super than men on retirement - and then some will start saying - 'but women live longer so it's only fair'.... as the next justification for blatant discrimination in our society....

Jesus God....


I agree, today men are on the bottom rung with just about everything and anything.
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Reply #5 - May 28th, 2017 at 11:07am
 
crocodile wrote on May 28th, 2017 at 11:01am:
Ajax wrote on May 28th, 2017 at 10:05am:
Get a degree, then man or woman there will be no wage inequality.


Maybe in fairy land.


Degree qualifications don't discriminate between men and women, you have a degree in your area of expertise then you will be paid accordingly.
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Reply #6 - May 28th, 2017 at 11:46am
 
crocodile wrote on May 28th, 2017 at 11:01am:
Ajax wrote on May 28th, 2017 at 10:05am:
Get a degree, then man or woman there will be no wage inequality.


Maybe in fairy land.



Degrees are a dime a dozen now, unbalance the job market, and fail to provide real opportunity for capable people with no need of a degree.  What kind of degree does a clerical worker need?  and that means most now in the fat jobs with little real work and good conditions and super etc.  No wonder Affirmative Action wants to slot women into those first...
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Reply #7 - May 28th, 2017 at 12:05pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 28th, 2017 at 11:46am:
crocodile wrote on May 28th, 2017 at 11:01am:
Ajax wrote on May 28th, 2017 at 10:05am:
Get a degree, then man or woman there will be no wage inequality.


Maybe in fairy land.



Degrees are a dime a dozen now, unbalance the job market, and fail to provide real opportunity for capable people with no need of a degree.  What kind of degree does a clerical worker need?  and that means most now in the fat jobs with little real work and good conditions and super etc.  No wonder Affirmative Action wants to slot women into those first...


If degrees are a dime a dozen, as barefoot-professor Grappler contends, it is evident that Grappler's wealth is less than one-twelfth of a dime.

Grappler has real animosity to people with degrees and other credentials. Professor Grappler has an even greater intensity of animosity to educated women.
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Reply #8 - May 28th, 2017 at 12:54pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on May 28th, 2017 at 12:05pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 28th, 2017 at 11:46am:
crocodile wrote on May 28th, 2017 at 11:01am:
Ajax wrote on May 28th, 2017 at 10:05am:
Get a degree, then man or woman there will be no wage inequality.


Maybe in fairy land.



Degrees are a dime a dozen now, unbalance the job market, and fail to provide real opportunity for capable people with no need of a degree.  What kind of degree does a clerical worker need?  and that means most now in the fat jobs with little real work and good conditions and super etc.  No wonder Affirmative Action wants to slot women into those first...


If degrees are a dime a dozen, as barefoot-professor Grappler contends, it is evident that Grappler's wealth is less than one-twelfth of a dime.

Grappler has real animosity to people with degrees and other credentials. Professor Grappler has an even greater intensity of animosity to educated women.



No animosity involved - just a clear view of reality... try it for a change.  I've dated doctors and professors.... so what's your problem?

The point is that the over-valuing of education and the under-valuing of genuine ability, talent and skill has lead this country into a dead end street..... and one in which inequalities continue to grow at an escalated pace due to this current foolish reliance on theoretical learning as opposed to ability to do the work.

Now go play with your own kind.....
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Reply #9 - May 28th, 2017 at 1:06pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 28th, 2017 at 12:54pm:
... I've dated doctors and professors...


Unqualified doctors and professors?

Dating someone does not confer on you an association to their credentials.

Have you considered dating denizen Valkie?
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Reply #10 - May 28th, 2017 at 2:20pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on May 28th, 2017 at 1:06pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 28th, 2017 at 12:54pm:
... I've dated doctors and professors...


Unqualified doctors and professors?

Dating someone does not confer on you an association to their credentials.

Have you considered dating denizen Valkie?



Tony and Joey are educated - does that qualify them to run the economy and social life of this nation?
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