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Jared Kushner faces jail for espionage
May 27^th, 2017 at 2:59pm

Just when didnt think it couldnt get worse, news comes out that Jared Kushner has been recorded along with Michael Flynn trying to arrange a secret back channel to the Kremlin using, wait for it... RUSSIAN EMBASSY SECURE COMMUNICATIONS.

He lied on his security clearance which gives him up to 5 years jail, but what is worse is that the entire reason for this backchannel was to avoid US intelligence agencies. Treason? Hard to deny it.

So its jail for Flynn. Jail for Kusher, both of whom have such closes ties to Trump that Trump had to know and therefore... jail for Trump.

Somewhere, Nixon is smiling.

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Mattyfisk Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 92296 Gender:	Re: Jared Kushner faces jail for espionage Reply #1 - May 27^th, 2017 at 4:40pm Yes, but should Jared Kushner be stood down until he is cleared by the FBI? The Light won't say.
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Reply #3 - May 28^th, 2017 at 12:21pm

longweekend58 wrote on May 27^th, 2017 at 2:59pm:

Just when didnt think it couldnt get worse, news comes out that Jared Kushner has been recorded along with Michael Flynn trying to arrange a secret back channel to the Kremlin using, wait for it... RUSSIAN EMBASSY SECURE COMMUNICATIONS.

He lied on his security clearance which gives him up to 5 years jail, but what is worse is that the entire reason for this backchannel was to avoid US intelligence agencies. Treason? Hard to deny it.

So its jail for Flynn. Jail for Kusher, both of whom have such closes ties to Trump that Trump had to know and therefore... jail for Trump.

Somewhere, Nixon is smiling.

I see you're LYING AGAIN without corroboration ...... Shame on you......LW58????

Boy, ya never learn do ya......

Espionage................... maybe 1 or 2 chances in a million there............

but.....but......but.....
Treason???
.....Riiiiiigggghhht!!

You don't even know the law on Treason, do ya!??

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Mattyfisk Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 92296 Gender:	Re: Jared Kushner faces jail for espionage Reply #4 - May 28^th, 2017 at 12:54pm Not treason, Panther, but Kushner declined to disclose these contacts on his security clearance - a federal change if the FBI want to prosecute him for it. But that's nothing. The question here is why.
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Reply #5 - May 28^th, 2017 at 1:21pm

Mattyfisk wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 12:54pm:

Not treason, Panther, but Kushner declined to disclose these contacts on his security clearance - a federal change if the FBI want to prosecute him for it.

But that's nothing. The question here is why.

Thank you.....treason was never the issue anyway.........except in LongWanker58's mind that is....

Now, as far as why?..........I don't know, & we may never know......The 5th Amendment to the US Constitution would afford them from saying anything that might incriminate themselves......they don't even need ot say anything at the trial, the can completely avoid taking the stand.....which would then require the government to prove any allegations beyond a reasonable doubt to a jury of 12 of their peers.....The judge just makes sure the defendants get a fair trial, & offer the jury a reading of the law if the jury asks him for it.....otherwise the judge is just sort of a "guide" to the event.....he/she doesn't vote, or make a verdict...

Needing but one (1) juror to disagree, unless the case is so overwhelming, they probably won't get anywhere close to a guilty verdict.

Like I said, one juror disagrees.....they (the defendant(s)) are scot-free with no penalty whatsoever.....& the loser pays all court costs, so they might just have to pony-up for their lawyer(s)....sometimes not even that....

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Reply #7 - May 28^th, 2017 at 1:41pm

Mattyfisk wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 1:39pm:

Why are you discussing jury processes, Panther?

Your right......I jumped the gun there.......it probably will never get to a trial, or even a charge..........the FBI can't prosecute, they can only suggest that the AG does, so the AG Jeff Sessions would need to.....the Republican, Trump Appointee AG Jeff Sessions.........but only if Sessions decides he wants to prosecute.

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Reply #8 - May 28^th, 2017 at 1:58pm

Panther wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 1:41pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 1:39pm:

Why are you discussing jury processes, Panther?

Your right......I jumped the gun there.......it probably will never get to a trial, or even a charge..........the FBI can't prosecute, they can only suggest that the AG does, so the AG Jeff Sessions would need to.....the Republican, Trump Appointee AG Jeff Sessions, but only if he decides he wants to.

Remember Bill Clinton? All it took was one rogue prosecutor to take a minor charge to court.

No, I'm wondering why you're distracting with legal processes. Do you not want to know the truth about these crimes?

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Reply #9 - May 28^th, 2017 at 2:09pm

Mattyfisk wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 1:58pm:

Panther wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 1:41pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 1:39pm:

Why are you discussing jury processes, Panther?

Your right......I jumped the gun there.......it probably will never get to a trial, or even a charge..........the FBI can't prosecute, they can only suggest that the AG does, so the AG Jeff Sessions would need to.....the Republican, Trump Appointee AG Jeff Sessions.........but only if Sessions decides he wants to prosecute.

Remember Bill Clinton? All it took was one rogue prosecutor to take a minor charge to court.

No, I'm wondering why you're distracting with legal processes. Do you not want to know the truth about these crimes?

What crimes????....Nobody has been legally charged with anything, have they?

Until there has been charges made, there isn't anything but wishful thinking, blind accusations, allegations, & partisan speculation............like what the Pecca used to do.....Crimes??....nowhere close....

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Reply #10 - May 29^th, 2017 at 9:43am

Panther gets very defensive at an almost ridiculous level. Kushner's acts clearly mean he should lose his clearance and be charged for lying on his form. THEN the motive for this is even worse where espionage or treason a credible consideration.

Panther is going to have a meltdown when dozens of Trump associates end up in jail including possibly Trump himself.

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Reply #11 - May 29^th, 2017 at 9:58am

Panther wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 1:41pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 1:39pm:

Why are you discussing jury processes, Panther?

Your right......I jumped the gun there.......it probably will never get to a trial, or even a charge..........the FBI can't prosecute, they can only suggest that the AG does, so the AG Jeff Sessions would need to.....the Republican, Trump Appointee AG Jeff Sessions.........but only if Sessions decides he wants to prosecute.

You are wrong. The special prosecutor can lay charges as can many other attorneys.

Get used to it.

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Re: Jared Kushner faces jail for espionage
Reply #12 - May 29^th, 2017 at 9:59am

longweekend58 wrote on May 29^th, 2017 at 9:43am:

Panther gets very defensive at an almost ridiculous level. Kushner's acts clearly mean he should lose his clearance and be charged for lying on his form. THEN the motive for this is even worse where espionage or treason a credible consideration.

Panther is going to have a meltdown when dozens of Trump associates end up in jail including possibly Trump himself.

There's no way they'll end up in jail, Longy. This is the Establishment. They have the game sewn up.

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Re: Jared Kushner faces jail for espionage
Reply #13 - May 29^th, 2017 at 12:24pm

longweekend58 wrote on May 29^th, 2017 at 9:58am:

Panther wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 1:41pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 1:39pm:

Why are you discussing jury processes, Panther?

Your right......I jumped the gun there.......it probably will never get to a trial, or even a charge..........the FBI can't prosecute, they can only suggest that the AG does, so the AG Jeff Sessions would need to.....the Republican, Trump Appointee AG Jeff Sessions.........but only if Sessions decides he wants to prosecute.

You are wrong. The special prosecutor can lay charges as can many other attorneys.

Get used to it.

Really......got any imaginary links to your fertile imagination??

If you ever verified your imagination & done some fact checking....not at the Federal Level when dealing with the Administrative Branch.....check it out, & you'll be surprised.....

Also, feel free to substantiate your false assertions with 1st party corroboration......unless you have none & are LYING like usual....

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Reply #14 - May 29^th, 2017 at 12:30pm

Panther wrote on May 29^th, 2017 at 12:24pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 29^th, 2017 at 9:58am:

Panther wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 1:41pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 1:39pm:

Why are you discussing jury processes, Panther?

Your right......I jumped the gun there.......it probably will never get to a trial, or even a charge..........the FBI can't prosecute, they can only suggest that the AG does, so the AG Jeff Sessions would need to.....the Republican, Trump Appointee AG Jeff Sessions.........but only if Sessions decides he wants to prosecute.

You are wrong. The special prosecutor can lay charges as can many other attorneys.

Get used to it.

Really.....got any imaginary links to your fertile imagination?? http://33sm.net16.net/smileys/lol00100.gif http://33sm.net16.net/smileys/taunt.gifNot at the Federal Level when dealing with the Administrative Branch.....check it out, & you'll be surprised.....

Also, feel free to substantiate your false assertions with 1st party corroboration......unless you have none & are LYING like usual....

Poor longeys dribbling shyte AGAIN Grin

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