Yes we need to create big secret gulags out in the desert and move them and all their families into them before mass deportation.

We need a Stalin in charge!

I'm not advocating throwing people in gaol willy nilly Red Neck but authorities know exactly who are the major threats..yet we sit on our hands and allow them to plot and plot and plot

This is not good enough anymore, times change and our response MUST  CHANGE

Consider this, if your children went off to work and they were killed when the bus they caught was blown up

And...authorities knew about the bomber, the bomber was on their watch list but nothing happened because the authorities couldn't lock him up 'on suspicion'

Then...would you still feel the same way about my idea?

No pussy footing around, Gulags are the way to go.

Perhaps Manus Island or Naru have some spare capacity!

Make it all secret as well !

You don't think they are already winning?

ISIS terrorism is not decreasing it is getting worse.

Lock up all their families a starter and then start hanging their families, make them think of the consequences of their actions.

Where is Stalin when we need him.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 8:58am:


Absolutely!

Fuzzball wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 11:05am:



People hated Stalin & Saadam but

they respected them.

The terrorists don't respect our leaders nor our laws.

Bojak...anyone who is communicating with known terrorists is not "an Innocent' as you put it. They have one mission and that is to carry out the Jihad I.S.I.S. has declared on every Jack one of us.

You are included in hat total Bojak you are you wrong colour

red baron wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 1:24pm:


Gee, that'd be a long list.

red baron wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 8:05am:


What did Manchester learn, red?

This is the third terrorist bomb attack in Manchester.

And, guess what - most of them were the IRA.

Did you forget that?

I have forgotten nothing Pec. When I said terrorists I include all forms of low life terrorists on that list

The proposal: Any person on a watch list who has been found to have been communicating with terrorist links should be incarcerated until that person can prove they are no threat to society

Like I keep saying if it was your parents or family that got blown up would you then think my proposal wrong?

You can beat your chest all you like but if someone took out your family you would be screaming for blood

What track are you on Pec, what attacks, what Christians, be specific

Regarding the horrific recent Manchester attack

The terrorist WAS on a Watch List, he was in concert with I.S.I.S. yet they let this terrorist run until he blew up women and kids

Under my proposal he would have been rotting in a cell

PS So would the IRA terrorist or any other freaking terrorist on a watch list

red baron wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 6:50pm:


What is the criteria you would use before anyone could be put on your watch list, given that on arrival on it according to you, they are imprisoned.

red baron wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 7:06pm:




You're right Baron,
the cops always know the people who do these crimes.
The cops have their hands tied behind their backs -
they can't protect us like that.

red baron wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 7:06pm:


If they communicate with terrorists, mix with anyone with radical ideals or express terrorist ideas, such as beheading all who insult the asshole, they and their families should be rounded up and put on a plane straight to a muzzo country where they can openly express their perverted ideas with impunity.

No more screwing around,
They are no longer welcome

Aussie wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 7:11pm:



Aussie - it's a war - innocent people will get their lives destroyed on both sides of any war.

red baron wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 7:06pm:


Yes they can.

red baron wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 7:30pm:


Ours, or theirs?

The only 'link' you will get from me would be the links between the handcuffs you apologist

Further, Bush declared this War after 9/11.....yet did not go after the arseholes behind 9/11.  The Saudis.  Instead, he decided to make big rocks into little rocks in Afghanistan.....and on it went, downhill from there and into Manchester most recently as 'terror' fights back in a vicious and deadly way, the same vicious and deadly way as kids in Yemen and Syria etc......perish.

red baron wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 7:43pm:


Solid position you have there Mr Baron.  You make a claim and cannot substantiate it.

Your posts are just chest beating bravado huff and puff with half baked idea you have not thought through.

Baronvonrort wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 7:44pm:



Greggy does seem to be an apologist for them - of sorts.

Bobby. wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 7:48pm:


And what was the Nationality of the arseholes in those 9/11 planes, Bobby?

Bobby. wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 7:43pm:


Ours, or theirs?

Bobby. wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 8:13pm:


Did Bush go after Saudis, or Afghans Bobby?  We currently have Trump about to supply those pricks with $B110 military hardware.

Why Bobby?  What the faaaaark are we doing there if not warmongering under the guise of a War on Terror, Bobby?

And what Nationality is/was bin Laden, Bobby?  Where was he being financed from Bobby,.

Yes, I know the answers....I want you to confront reality and not Bush's bullshit.

Just a rogue Saudi?  Not connected in any way to the House of Saud at all, Bobby?

Bobby. wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 9:21pm:


A rogue Member of the Royal Family...who kept pumping the mega dollars his way, Bobby.

Bobby. wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 9:40pm:


Of course I reckon Bobby.  Where do you think bin Laden (a Member of the Saudi Royal Family) got the cash to pay for all the Al-Qaeda activity?  Monopoly money?

Bobbie Aussie is the official apologist for terrorists on this site. He hasn't made one critical  comment about the horrific murders carried out in Manchester but he is quite happy to go to the defence of the Muslims

Aussie you haven't said anything about my proposal regarding incarcerating known terrorist on watch lists who have been in communication with terrorist cells

I imagine being you, you will demand they stay free to plot and plan to murder your fellow Australians

red baron wrote on May 27^th, 2017 at 7:33am:



Aussie has become very progressive lately -
he's even supported sodomites.

Marla wrote on May 27^th, 2017 at 8:37am:

Marla wrote on May 27^th, 2017 at 8:37am:



Soooo.... why do these 'victims' of Britain and the West seek asylum in... er... Britain and the West?

Do explain.

BlueBeard wrote on May 27^th, 2017 at 3:40pm:



You got my vote

http://www.newsday.com/news/world/terrorist-attacks-around-the-world-since-sept-...
A timeline of major terrorist attacks abroad since Sept. 11, 2001:

Oct. 12, 2002: Two nightclubs were bombed in Bali, Indonesia, killing 202 people. Extremists from Jemaah Islamiyah, an al-Qaida-affiliated Islamist group, were convicted of the attack.




Oct., 23, 2002: Dozens of armedraided the Dubrovka Theater in Moscow and took hostages. The standoff ended when special forces pumped gas into a room where hostages were held, and attacked. All perpetrators died, along with up to 130 hostages.


Aug. 5, 2003: The J.W. Marriott Hotel in Jakarta, Indonesia, was bombed, killing 12 people, and Jemaah Islamiyah claimed responsibility.

Nov. 15 and 20, 2003: Suicide truck bombings at two synagogues, the British consulate and London-based HSBC Bank in Istanbul killed more than 50 people. Al-Qaida-affiliated suspects were charged and convicted.

March 11, 2004: Bombs on trains killed 191 at Madrid's Atocha station in Europe's worst Islamic terror attack. An al-Qaida-inspired terrorist cell was blamed.



Sept. 1, 2004: Armed Islamist Ingush and Chechen fighters attacked school in Beslan, North Ossetia, and took over 1,100 hostages, nearly 800 of them children. Russian special forces stormed the school and over 330 hostages and dozens of perpetrators were killed.

July 7, 2005: Fifty-two commuters were killed when four al-Qaida-inspired suicide bombers blow themselves up on three London subway trains and a bus.



Sept. 20, 2008: A dump truck filled with explosives detonated in front of the Islamabad Marriott Hotel in Islamabad, Pakistan, killing more than 50 people.


Nov. 23, 2008: Gunmen associated with the terror group Lashkar-e-Tayyiba attacked buildings in Mumbai, India, killing 164 people.

July 22, 2011: then attacked a youth camp on Norway's Utoya island, killing 77 people, many of them teenagers.

March 11, 2012: A gunman claiming links to al-Qaida killed three Jewish schoolchildren, a rabbi and three paratroopers in Toulouse, France.

Sept. 21, 2013: Gunmen attacked shoppers at the Westgate mall in Nairobi, Kenya, killing 67 and wounding more than 175. The extremist Islamic group al-Shabaab claimed responsibility.

May 24, 2014: Four people are killed at the Jewish Museum in Brussels by an intruder, a suspect who is a former French fighter linked to Islamic State.



Jan. 3-7, 2015: Boko Haram militants attacked in Baga, Nigeria. Death toll ranged from 150 to 2,000 people. It was the worst death toll for an attack carried out by Boko Haram, which has claimed responsibility for dozens of attacks with deaths ranging from just a few to hundreds of people over several years.

Jan. 7, 2015: Two al-Qaida-linked gunmen killed 11 people at the Charlie Hebdo magazine in Paris and killed a police officer outside. A total of 17 people and three gunmen die in bloodshed including an attack on a kosher market.

April 2015: Up to 147 people, mostly students, at Garissa University in Kenya are killed in attack; al-Shabaab claims responsibility.

Oct. 10, 2015: Suicide bombers detonated devices in Ankara and killed about 100 people in the Turkish capital. Investigators suspected Islamic State-linked perpetrators.



terrorist attacks since 2001-2015..

this doesnt list the latest using trucks to mow down people minding their own business or people enjoying a night out at a club or concert.

they need to bring it into the 21st century....

to live like someone did 2000 yrs ago doesnt make the slightest sense ...even the planet has changed in that time    because it was meant too just like we are meant to evolve....

Valkie wrote on May 27^th, 2017 at 7:05pm:



Muslims are trapped 1500 years ago in a time space continuum.

Frank wrote on May 27^th, 2017 at 1:21pm:


Why didn't the authorities at upon his suspicious traveling? Dumbass

red baron wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 9:02am:


Just because I don't make posts here about it, does not mean that.

My next door neighbour (when we had the Beach House) comes from Preston and has lots of Family and friends in that NW area of England.  I was on the phone to her before she even knew it happened.

You will also find, Mr Baron, that this is not the only Thread on matters Manchester.

Red Baron's analytical skills exemplify why Red Baron never progressed past the lowest ranks of the police force.

It's a good thing Red Baron's superiors were smart enough not to issue him with a gun. He probably would have shot both his feet off.

red baron wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 3:33pm:


It's my keyboard actually.

A  lot has been said so let me re state my original premise

Any person communicating with terrorists and detected doing so, should be arrested and immediately incarcerated whilst an immediate investigation is made on whether that person represents a threat to the community

They don't get out of gaol until they can prove that they represent 'no risk' to the Country

Way outside many people's comfort zones but don't ever think Manchester won't happen here...it will. It's just a matter of time. The Intelligence Community know who the main risks are just like Britain knew about that arsehole who bombed Manchester

DON'T wait until they do it, collar them

I spent 7 years in Electronic Surveillance in the NSW Police Force Aussie

Think I've got a better idea than you would of what constitutes 'communicating with terrorists'

I am not only talking about phone etc interception but also surveillance in the field

I can tell you that in the Interception Field; Case Officers vet all communications made by the suspect and calls that constitute offences are culled out and examined. The detectives handling the case then are given evidentiary material and act according to what that reveals as well as the active investigation including live surveillance of the suspect in the field

red baron wrote on May 28^th, 2017 at 4:37pm:


So, write the Rule.  It's easy to say 'Let's do this' but when you try to legislate it.....a lot of things will stand in  the way.....thank feerk.

It is not up to me to 'write the rule'

I am saying what is needed. It is up to Legislators of the Law, Lawyers to draft up legislation that reflects what is 'needed' to make this a reality

Frankly our Politicians are too gutless to take the quantum leap needed

Let's see how they feel when the first mass murder occurs in this Country which is over ripe for that to happen

People here feel 'too safe'. They haven't experienced the horror of European Countries of these mass murderers

However our Intelligence Community have thus far done a brilliant job

But just the simple enormous logistics in surveilling people who  are free to do whatever they please, will put it in the too hard basket

Put them away, then check them out before they start making their bombs

How many times do I have to say this, 'people who have been intercepted or surveilled as having contact with known terrorists organisations or individuals should be immediately arrested, gaoled and then thoroughly investigated as to whether they pose a clear and present danger to  the County.."

Yes Aussie in NSW you have to provide evidence to a Federal Court Judge that sufficient evidence cannot be obtained by conventional Policing means in order to get a Warrant for a Phone tap on the target

red baron wrote on May 29^th, 2017 at 1:55pm:


Sufficient evidence to do what?

red baron wrote on May 29^th, 2017 at 2:01pm:

Sort of like the Spanish Inquisition, the Salem witch Trials, and Star Chambers etc, that sort of back to the future stuff.

red baron wrote on May 29^th, 2017 at 2:01pm:


Calm down.

"More Australians have died at the hands of police (lawfully or unlawfully) in ten years (50 at least from 2006 to 2015) or from domestic violence in just two years (more than 318 in 2014 and 2015) than from terrorist attacks in Australia in the last 20 years."

Have a calm me down tab Aussie

You are now the one being absurd..Salem Witch trials Give Me A Break!!!!

Everything that I have said makes pure sense, perhaps it is because it is so simple and capable of preventing a tragedy in our midst, that the conformers are too scared to change position

But I can tell you that once a terrorist act that murders many citizens occurs and under the current format it is only a matter of time..it will, the balloon will go up

Why is it that a tragedy has to occur in order for a seismic change in the way things are done when it comes to a Country's  Security?

What is so shocking about the prospect of a Federal Court Judge being given evidence that a target is communicating with known terrorists. Then that Judge issued an arrest warrant against the target

The Police arrest the target and he/she is placed in custody whilst a thorough and timely investigation is carried out to determine if that person is a risk to the Country's citizens?

Of course it won't happen but just watch the sh.t fly when the event we all fear happens, they will be ducking for cover and screaming "why  weren't preventative measures more strong?"

cods wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 8:29am:

Bobby. wrote on May 29^th, 2017 at 1:56pm:




No need.

'Deportation on Suspicion' is all that is needed. It's no big deal. NSW government minister Eddie Obeid had for years been sending money back to Lebanon for the construction of a palatial retirement home. It's all the same to them. There aren't any of them who are more Australian than they are Lebanese, despite what they'll tell you. Same with the Greeks and Italians. It doesn't matter how many generations they are as immigrants - they can speak and read Arabic, and they consider themselves to be members of 'their' community rather than belonging to the hated Anglo-mainstream.

Lord Herbert wrote on May 30^th, 2017 at 9:58am:



That'ld be a gas

ISIS hates the liberties that Western Democracies affords its citizens and they use those same liberties to shut them down.

But they are not doing it are they Aussie. If they are..then that really is news to me

Otherwise the Left Wing screamers would be tearing the joint down, incarcerating people until enough evidence is gained in the matter of terrorism that is

Source: Herald Sun


INDEPENDENT Senator Jacqui Lambie has renewed her call for the deportation of all immigrants who support sharia law and any immigrants who appear on ASIO’s official terror watch list.

She said she believed the 190 people on the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation’s list were Islamic and called on Federal Attorney-General George Brandis to release details.

“The Government must stop the cover-up and political correctness and release full details on our official terror watch list,” she said.

She said the Attorney-General was sitting on ASIO figures which strongly supported US President Donald Trump’s immigration ban on some Islamic people.

Senator Lambie called for tougher anti-terrorism policies.

“The 190 on ASIO’s list shouldn’t be just watched,” she said.

“Unfortunately we’ve seen in the past innocent lives taken by a terrorist and sharia law supporter [Lindt cafe siege gunman Man Haron Monis] who ASIO was supposed to be watching.

“All of the people on ASIO’s terror watch list should be kicked out of Australia or thrown in jail. At the very least Australian citizens should be charged with treason or sedition, which are serious crimes with long jail sentences.

“Other countries in our region are telling the truth to their citizens. Singapore has graphic national ads which bluntly say it’s a matter of when, not if a terrorist attack will happen.”

Senator Brandis’ office has been contacted for comment.

Originally published as They ‘should be kicked out of Australia’


Red: I rest my case