The Australian
4:26PM May 25, 2017

A moderate preacher says Australia’s Muslim society is “infested by extremists”, his comments coming during a heated television debate that also included Muslim leader Dr Jamal Rifi.

Adelaide Imam Shaikh Mohammad Tawhidi appeared on Channel Seven’s Sunrise program with host David Koch and Dr Rifi to discuss this week’s Manchester bombing.

The terrorist attack, which killed 22 people and injured 64, 20 critically, was carried out by radicalised British Muslim Salman Abedi.

Dr Rifi and Tawhidi condemned the attack. Tawhidi went further, saying young people were being radicalised, even in Australia, “because of the Islamic scriptures that we have”.

“They push the Muslim youth to believe that if you go out there and you kill the infidel that’s how you will gain paradise.

“It is very hard being a peaceful, moderate person within a society that is infested by extremist Muslims. I will not deny this fact.”

Tawhidi’s website says he is an Australian Shi’i Muslim creationist, educator, speaker, preacher, thinker, researcher and author.

“We have a large number of Muslims that are extremists, even in Australia, and we see them when they come out in the Sydney riots, and we see them attacking the police,” he said on Sunrise.

Tawhidi said clerics and followers in Australia were being radicalised. He then held up a sticker featuring the al-Qa’ida logo that he said he had purchased in Melbourne on Tuesday.

He said such open promotion of radical groups created a “jihadi” atmosphere within Australian Muslim communities.

He warned that having good relations with the Muslim community did not mean having control over them.

Koch asked the pair if Muslim leaders had been vocal enough in condemning radical Islam attacks.

Dr Rifi, a Lebanese Muslim GP and prominent community leader, insisted Australia was a peaceful country.

“First of all these scriptures existed for thousands of years, they didn’t incite violence or terror acts,” he said.

“It is an ideology of the so called Islamic State and Daesh and they are actually targeting young people who are impressionable.”

Dr Rifi said the Muslim community had condemned the Manchester attack.

“The Grand Mufti condemned it, we have shouted from the rooftops our condemnation of this act. What more can we do?”

Tawhidi replied: “We have a situation where a month doesn’t go by without a terrorist attack happening somewhere around the world,” he said.

“For 1400 years we have had a religion of war, that’s exactly what we have had. This is not something I’m imagining.”

Dr Rifi said there was nothing in Islam that justified killing innocent people.

Tawhidi responded: “Our books teach the beheading of people,” he said adding the Manchester bomber would have believed he was going to heaven for what he did.

Dr Rifi insisted the Manchester suicide bomber was going straight to hell because he has killed innocent people.

“Nothing in our religion supports killing innocent people, full stop,” he said.

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Personally I hate it when people cry radicalisation.  Really?  What a cop out.  Don't these people have any moral compass?  Can't they discern the difference between good and bad?  Haven't they been brought up to know right from wrong?
Radicalisation...  pull the other one.

moses wrote on May 26^th, 2017 at 10:35am:



this is what is meant by EXTREMISTS moses.....

some take their religion to extremes....like the Witness' who refuse blood transfusions...its taking things to extreme .

they actually think it makes them superior in some way...yet I am sure they all drive cars and fly in planes and take advantage of everything else that is modern in 2017  ... they just have this selection when it comes to something they claim was written all those years ago an d meant to be re enacted in the world today........

it makes sense to some!

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what a lying piece of putrid human excrement this despicable scumbag is.

Slaughtering innocent people is a core value in islam.

Frank wrote on May 27^th, 2017 at 1:31pm:


Indeed. Moses' outburst was entirely redundant.

Time to get angry about Islamist terror
The Australian
12:00AM May 27, 2017
Janet Albrechtsen

First Islamic terrorists chose to kill Jews in their homeland and beyond. Then they murdered Americans working in New York’s tall buildings. They murdered people travelling on London trains and buses, too, then French journalists and cartoonists.

Islamic terrorists struck Paris again, slaughtering people at a rock concert and in nearby restaurants. Islamic terrorists blew up people at an airport and a train station in Brussels and drove into people strolling along Nice’s promenade, people walking along London’s Westminster Bridge. A Copenhagen street, the Boston Marathon, a Sydney cafe, Berlin’s Christmas markets, a pedestrian mall in Stockholm, Christians, Yazidis and Muslims across the Middle East. Thousands slaughtered by Islamic terrorists with no borders, physical or moral.

On Monday, Islamic terrorists murdered children in Manchester. One image sticks. A little girl with a headband, the kind little girls like. Her leather jacket makes her look older than her tender years. Her eyes are glazed, wide with shock. She’s hand-in-hand with a woman, hopefully her mum.

One voice sticks, too. The raw agony of another mum ringing CNN pleading to hear from her 15-year-old daughter, Olivia, who went to the Ariana Grande concert but hasn’t been seen since.  Olivia, along with 21 other children, teenagers, young people and parents, has been murdered by a 22-year-old Islamic terrorist.

Where does this end? How? When? It being Britain, many are saying “keep calm and carry on”. Politicians reach for a formula of pacifying words every time Islamic terrorism strikes. We are united. Terrorists will be defeated. Love conquers hate. Freedom stands up for itself, our own Prime Minister once said.

Keep calm and carry on? Not this time. Keeping calm has promoted a comatose citizenry. Light a candle or tweet a hashtag, talk of unity, love and strength. Gather at a vigil, then go home. Don’t ask hard questions about why Islamic terrorists are able to keep murdering us. Love did not save the lives of eight-year-old Saffie Rose Roussos or 18-year-old Georgina Callander. Unity did not save the lives of the two mothers waiting in the foyer of the concert hall for their daughters or teenage sweethearts, Chloe Rutherford and Liam Curry.

And unity around what ex­actly? Too many in the West refuse to unite behind the most basic moral clarity about Islamic terrorism. This week, of all weeks, our public broadcaster made light of Islamic terrorism, invited on to its television shows commentators who mocked terrorism and who told us not to jump to conclusions about terrorism. The ABC’s own journalists struggle to mention the Islam element. Our politicians talk about terrorists as marginalised and vulnerable, as if we are to blame for the murders of young children in Manchester. Keep calm about these useful idiots? Not a chance.

In Riyadh this week, US President Donald Trump reminded more than 50 Arab Muslim leaders that “the nations of the Middle East cannot wait for American power to crush this enemy for them … A better future is only possible if your nations drive out the terrorists and extremists.”

“Drive. Them. Out,” he said. “Drive them out of your places of worship. Drive them out of your communities. Drive them out of your holy land and drive them out of this earth.”

Trump offered up the kind of moral clarity that drove the West to defeat Nazis and Soviet communists. What has happened to us in the interim? Paralysed by political correctness, we walk on eggshells so as not to offend. Ask hard questions about immigration? You’re a racist. Talk about Islam and terrorism? You’re an Islamophobe. Keep calm and stay quiet? Not any more. It’s time to get angry.

Examining the causes of terrorism without reference to Islam, the Prophet and the Koran is as intellectually vacuous as looking at the causes of World War II without reference to Nazism, Hitler and Mein Kampf. It’s no coincidence that those who are angry are making the most penetrating observations. Morrissey, the former lead singer of the Smiths, was angry when he posted this: “Sadiq Khan (London’s mayor) says ‘London is united with Manchester’, but he does not condemn Islamic State — who have claimed responsibility for the bomb … Manchester mayor Andy Burnham says the attack is the work of an ‘extremist’. An extreme what? An extreme rabbit?

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Frank wrote on May 27^th, 2017 at 9:18pm:


Frank as always I respectfully and humbly disagree.