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Reply #15 - May 19th, 2017 at 5:10pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 3:41pm:
...............  a heart thumping 650Nm at 1600-2600rpm ............


I love a good V8 as much as anyone, but if you like torque EVs win hands-down.

650nM? A basic Model S makes 600nM from 0rpm, while the top line P100 makes 1250nM, also from zero.
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Reply #16 - May 19th, 2017 at 5:43pm
 
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOŇOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I like my petrol powered car belching toxic fumes all over the place.
I like the noise and fun

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Reply #17 - May 19th, 2017 at 5:51pm
 
gandalf wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 4:39pm:
BigOl64 wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 12:07pm:
The Mechanic wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 11:58am:
I will give you ONE MILLION DOLLARS if petrol fuel cars vanish in 8 years...

Hell... make it TWO MILLION DOLLARS...




I don't think nails can tell the difference between a fact and a hypothesis.   Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


The bloke who wrote that story is fkken dreaming.




Its just common sense: who wins in the car market between petrol engines and EVs with a fraction of the moving parts, a fraction of the running costs and virtually no wear and tear? Its a no brainer. And I agree with the author that once driverless EV's are viable and available on mass (which they will be) - most people won't think twice about ditching their "manual" vehicles.

I'm guessing people like bigol were similarly scoffing at the predicted demise of film cameras and CDs.



All petrol vehicle gone in 8 years, is that what you are also saying is it?


Because I am scoffing at the shear stupidity of the statement and the 'predictions' made by nails and the author, and Im more than happy to show you some contempt as well, if you believe that horse sh1t as well.


This has no basis in fact, is is a delusion and stupid in the extreme.


Im not some anti-tech luddite, exactly the opposite, I base my position of what is reasonable possible not on some cretinous man-child's predictions.

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Reply #18 - May 19th, 2017 at 5:54pm
 
More like 20 years. Driverless cars and pedestrians need to be on different levels and the cost of petrol needs to go up and the capacity of batteries to increase tenfold.
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There has not been a cool month for 628 months!

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Reply #19 - May 19th, 2017 at 6:27pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 5:54pm:
More like 20 years. Driverless cars and pedestrians need to be on different levels and the cost of petrol needs to go up and the capacity of batteries to increase tenfold.



At least.


Sh1t, Im still waiting for my fkken jet pack that was promised all those years ago, supposed to get them by the mid 80s.   Smiley Smiley

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Reply #20 - May 19th, 2017 at 7:20pm
 
I’m still waiting for those and for power so cheap they won’t bother billing.

Driverless cars will arrive and in a decade or two.
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Reply #21 - May 19th, 2017 at 7:58pm
 
Stig wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 5:10pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 3:41pm:
...............  a heart thumping 650Nm at 1600-2600rpm ............


I love a good V8 as much as anyone, but if you like torque EVs win hands-down.

650nM? A basic Model S makes 600nM from 0rpm, while the top line P100 makes 1250nM, also from zero.


ssssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhh

yes, electric motors make 100% of their torque at 0 rpm
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Reply #22 - May 19th, 2017 at 8:11pm
 
Valkie wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 5:43pm:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OŇOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I like my petrol powered car belching toxic fumes all over the place.
I like the noise and fun



yes
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Reply #23 - May 20th, 2017 at 10:38am
 
gandalf wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 4:39pm:
BigOl64 wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 12:07pm:
The Mechanic wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 11:58am:
I will give you ONE MILLION DOLLARS if petrol fuel cars vanish in 8 years...

Hell... make it TWO MILLION DOLLARS...




I don't think nails can tell the difference between a fact and a hypothesis.   Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


The bloke who wrote that story is fkken dreaming.




Its just common sense: who wins in the car market between petrol engines and EVs with a fraction of the moving parts, a fraction of the running costs and virtually no wear and tear? Its a no brainer. And I agree with the author that once driverless EV's are viable and available on mass (which they will be) - most people won't think twice about ditching their "manual" vehicles.

I'm guessing people like bigol were similarly scoffing at the predicted demise of film cameras and CDs.


Bighole still uses a film camera and a typewriter Cheesy LOL

He's having trouble sourcing the film and can't find anyone to fix his typewriter Cheesy LOL
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Reply #24 - May 20th, 2017 at 10:46am
 
BigOl64 wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 5:51pm:
gandalf wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 4:39pm:
BigOl64 wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 12:07pm:
The Mechanic wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 11:58am:
I will give you ONE MILLION DOLLARS if petrol fuel cars vanish in 8 years...

Hell... make it TWO MILLION DOLLARS...




I don't think nails can tell the difference between a fact and a hypothesis.   Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


The bloke who wrote that story is fkken dreaming.




Its just common sense: who wins in the car market between petrol engines and EVs with a fraction of the moving parts, a fraction of the running costs and virtually no wear and tear? Its a no brainer. And I agree with the author that once driverless EV's are viable and available on mass (which they will be) - most people won't think twice about ditching their "manual" vehicles.

I'm guessing people like bigol were similarly scoffing at the predicted demise of film cameras and CDs.



All petrol vehicle gone in 8 years, is that what you are also saying is it?


Because I am scoffing at the shear stupidity of the statement and the 'predictions' made by nails and the author, and Im more than happy to show you some contempt as well, if you believe that horse sh1t as well.


This has no basis in fact, is is a delusion and stupid in the extreme.


Im not some anti-tech luddite, exactly the opposite, I base my position of what is reasonable possible not on some cretinous man-child's predictions.



Then how come GMC is ramping down production of right hand drive cars and is pulling out of Sth Africa and India and quite possibly Australia. The motor industry is changing and technology has a way of leaving established players in the dust unless they change !! Just look what happened to Kodak. Owned lots of digital camera patents in the 70's but decided to milk as much out of film as it could thinking that it would never go away. History says otherwise.

Don't base your opinions on what happens in Australia. We are a technological backwater rusted onto the past glories of Ford and Holden's racing around Bathhurst. The rest of the world couldn't give a toss about Australia and its fixation to everything oil !
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Reply #25 - May 20th, 2017 at 11:07am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 3:41pm:
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............. A major reason for the LandCruiser's legendary status lurks under the vehicle's bonnet. There are two engine variants to choose from: a 4.6L V8 Dual VVT-i Petrol (not available on GX) with 6-speed automatic transmission and a 4.5L V8 Twin Turbo-diesel with 6-speed automatic transmission. Each of these brilliantly engineered V8 engine units offers loads of jaw-dropping horse power.

The output figures speak for themselves, the petrol V8 engine delivers an awesome 227kW at 5500rpm, while the diesel V8 engine is close behind with a thumping 200kW at 3600rpm.


Torque it up

The V8 power units deliver massive torque, giving the LandCruiser 200 more grunt and pulling power than ever before, enabling the car to venture where other 4WDs might struggle.

With the petrol variant V8 engine (not available on GX) offering 439Nm at 3400rpm and the diesel variant delivering a heart thumping 650Nm at 1600-2600rpm, you can forget old boundaries and limitations. Get ready to push the envelope on-road and off ..............



...............  a heart thumping 650Nm at 1600-2600rpm ............


Big fizz !! It's already obsolete.







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Re: Petrol cars will vanish in 8 years
Reply #26 - May 20th, 2017 at 11:41am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on May 20th, 2017 at 10:46am:
BigOl64 wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 5:51pm:
gandalf wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 4:39pm:
BigOl64 wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 12:07pm:
The Mechanic wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 11:58am:
I will give you ONE MILLION DOLLARS if petrol fuel cars vanish in 8 years...

Hell... make it TWO MILLION DOLLARS...




I don't think nails can tell the difference between a fact and a hypothesis.   Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


The bloke who wrote that story is fkken dreaming.




Its just common sense: who wins in the car market between petrol engines and EVs with a fraction of the moving parts, a fraction of the running costs and virtually no wear and tear? Its a no brainer. And I agree with the author that once driverless EV's are viable and available on mass (which they will be) - most people won't think twice about ditching their "manual" vehicles.

I'm guessing people like bigol were similarly scoffing at the predicted demise of film cameras and CDs.



All petrol vehicle gone in 8 years, is that what you are also saying is it?


Because I am scoffing at the shear stupidity of the statement and the 'predictions' made by nails and the author, and Im more than happy to show you some contempt as well, if you believe that horse sh1t as well.


This has no basis in fact, is is a delusion and stupid in the extreme.


Im not some anti-tech luddite, exactly the opposite, I base my position of what is reasonable possible not on some cretinous man-child's predictions.



Then how come GMC is ramping down production of right hand drive cars and is pulling out of Sth Africa and India and quite possibly Australia. The motor industry is changing and technology has a way of leaving established players in the dust unless they change !! Just look what happened to Kodak. Owned lots of digital camera patents in the 70's but decided to milk as much out of film as it could thinking that it would never go away. History says otherwise.

Don't base your opinions on what happens in Australia. We are a technological backwater rusted onto the past glories of Ford and Holden's racing around Bathhurst. The rest of the world couldn't give a toss about Australia and its fixation to everything oil !



Always nice when you post evidence to support your opinions.


Unsubstantiated opinions and wild predictions aren't worth a snatch full of cold water out here in the real world.


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Re: Petrol cars will vanish in 8 years
Reply #27 - May 20th, 2017 at 11:46am
 
BigOl64 wrote on May 20th, 2017 at 11:41am:
Sir lastnail wrote on May 20th, 2017 at 10:46am:
BigOl64 wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 5:51pm:
gandalf wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 4:39pm:
BigOl64 wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 12:07pm:
The Mechanic wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 11:58am:
I will give you ONE MILLION DOLLARS if petrol fuel cars vanish in 8 years...

Hell... make it TWO MILLION DOLLARS...




I don't think nails can tell the difference between a fact and a hypothesis.   Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


The bloke who wrote that story is fkken dreaming.




Its just common sense: who wins in the car market between petrol engines and EVs with a fraction of the moving parts, a fraction of the running costs and virtually no wear and tear? Its a no brainer. And I agree with the author that once driverless EV's are viable and available on mass (which they will be) - most people won't think twice about ditching their "manual" vehicles.

I'm guessing people like bigol were similarly scoffing at the predicted demise of film cameras and CDs.



All petrol vehicle gone in 8 years, is that what you are also saying is it?


Because I am scoffing at the shear stupidity of the statement and the 'predictions' made by nails and the author, and Im more than happy to show you some contempt as well, if you believe that horse sh1t as well.


This has no basis in fact, is is a delusion and stupid in the extreme.


Im not some anti-tech luddite, exactly the opposite, I base my position of what is reasonable possible not on some cretinous man-child's predictions.



Then how come GMC is ramping down production of right hand drive cars and is pulling out of Sth Africa and India and quite possibly Australia. The motor industry is changing and technology has a way of leaving established players in the dust unless they change !! Just look what happened to Kodak. Owned lots of digital camera patents in the 70's but decided to milk as much out of film as it could thinking that it would never go away. History says otherwise.

Don't base your opinions on what happens in Australia. We are a technological backwater rusted onto the past glories of Ford and Holden's racing around Bathhurst. The rest of the world couldn't give a toss about Australia and its fixation to everything oil !



Always nice when you post evidence to support your opinions.


Unsubstantiated opinions and wild predictions aren't worth a snatch full of cold water out here in the real world.




Whilst I don't quite agree with the original author that fossil fool cars will disappear completely because there will still be some in the Museums Cheesy LOL
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Reply #28 - May 20th, 2017 at 11:47am
 
Always assuming everybody who drives can afford a Tesla 'in 8 years'.....
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Reply #29 - May 20th, 2017 at 11:55am
 
Fireball wrote on May 20th, 2017 at 11:47am:
Always assuming everybody who drives can afford a Tesla 'in 8 years'.....


Well I'm sure that Tesla won't be the only EV you can buy in 8 years time, suffice to say that we will probably be importing them from china like everything else Wink
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