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Reply #45 - May 20th, 2017 at 10:30pm
 
1mm of rain does nothing in hot weather. It does not penetrate the soil. It doesn't get through the layer of dead grass or loose dirt or whatever is on top. It moistens it slightly, and then it dries out again. And plants don't have their roots on top of the soil.
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Reply #46 - May 21st, 2017 at 2:33am
 
freediver wrote on May 20th, 2017 at 10:30pm:
1mm of rain does nothing in hot weather. It does not penetrate the soil. It doesn't get through the layer of dead grass or loose dirt or whatever is on top. It moistens it slightly, and then it dries out again. And plants don't have their roots on top of the soil.


Well, I have lived through years where we had 490mm of rain. Dry weather still had us green grass by the end of the year. Cold, dry winter and not much else. As dry as it was, our plants and grass still survived. Had our weather spread out over the year evenly, the grass would have looked even more green. Perhaps you don't know that 1mm is 5 minutes worth of rain. Or a downpour of heavy rain in 1 minute. Torrential in 30 seconds. I don't know what you are talking about.
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Reply #47 - May 21st, 2017 at 7:59am
 
Plants survive because of the occasional heavy rain. Even the "1 month of rain in a few days events" will last about a month. That's why you are advised to water your garden less regularly but for longer. The further the water soaks in, the longer it takes to evaporate. Instead of evaporating, it is there for the plants to use.
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Reply #48 - May 21st, 2017 at 9:56am
 
To create a one world 🌎 government you need an entire world problem ...

Invent Global Warming...

Tadaaaaaaa!!!!

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And if that doesn't work try creating a massive immigration problem world wide!!!
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Reply #49 - May 21st, 2017 at 11:43am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on May 21st, 2017 at 2:33am:
freediver wrote on May 20th, 2017 at 10:30pm:
1mm of rain does nothing in hot weather. It does not penetrate the soil. It doesn't get through the layer of dead grass or loose dirt or whatever is on top. It moistens it slightly, and then it dries out again. And plants don't have their roots on top of the soil.


Well, I have lived through years where we had 490mm of rain. Dry weather still had us green grass by the end of the year. Cold, dry winter and not much else. As dry as it was, our plants and grass still survived. Had our weather spread out over the year evenly, the grass would have looked even more green. Perhaps you don't know that 1mm is 5 minutes worth of rain. Or a downpour of heavy rain in 1 minute. Torrential in 30 seconds. I don't know what you are talking about.

freediver wrote on May 21st, 2017 at 7:59am:
Plants survive because of the occasional heavy rain. Even the "1 month of rain in a few days events" will last about a month. That's why you are advised to water your garden less regularly but for longer. The further the water soaks in, the longer it takes to evaporate. Instead of evaporating, it is there for the plants to use.


Freediver is correct
Even this time of year we average an evaporation rate of 3mm per day. To have healthy plants we need rain that has soaked deep enough into the soil that it won't evaporate as quickly
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Reply #50 - May 21st, 2017 at 11:47am
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on May 21st, 2017 at 9:56am:
To create a one world 🌎 government you need an entire world problem ...

Invent Global Warming...

Tadaaaaaaa!!!!

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Have you heard of Godwin's law?
This says that the first person to mention the Nazi's loses the argument.
I propose a Barnacle's law, that the first person to invoke a world conspiracy theory to support their position has lost the argument.
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Reply #51 - May 21st, 2017 at 12:14pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on May 21st, 2017 at 11:47am:
I propose a Barnacle's law, that the first person to invoke a world conspiracy theory to support their position has lost the argument.



Delusional and funny. Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #52 - May 21st, 2017 at 10:01pm
 
Still waiting  for all  this rain Huh


Or did the weather  ppl get it wrong. ...again Roll Eyes
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Reply #53 - May 21st, 2017 at 11:04pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on May 21st, 2017 at 11:43am:
Freediver is correct
Even this time of year we average an evaporation rate of 3mm per day. To have healthy plants we need rain that has soaked deep enough into the soil that it won't evaporate as quickly


Do you know what happens with evaporation during the winter? It settles during the cooler periods of the day and night on other places. Not much of it blows away to the ocean. In fact, the great high-pressure systems have a tendency to push moist air onto the coast from the east and the north to the interior. Frosts and general vapor settle on the ground. I don't know what country you are from, but I have lived in the driest parts of the country, and I know that the flora can handle weak rainfall years. It is the crop growing areas that need the rainfall.
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Reply #54 - May 21st, 2017 at 11:05pm
 
Francis wrote on May 21st, 2017 at 10:01pm:
Still waiting  for all  this rain Huh


Or did the weather  ppl get it wrong. ...again Roll Eyes


I think some areas got good rain. While other places missed out.
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Reply #55 - May 22nd, 2017 at 12:32am
 
freediver wrote on May 21st, 2017 at 7:59am:
Plants survive because of the occasional heavy rain. Even the "1 month of rain in a few days events" will last about a month. That's why you are advised to water your garden less regularly but for longer. The further the water soaks in, the longer it takes to evaporate. Instead of evaporating, it is there for the plants to use.


Just for clarification, are you saying that a month's worth of rain in a day per month would also see drought from evaporation? For example, my town of Rockhampton gets about 900mm of rain every year. If on the first of the month, every month, we got 80mm of rain, and then none again until the next month, are you saying that we would also have drought conditions for the 28th/30th day (before the next day's rain)?
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Reply #56 - May 22nd, 2017 at 7:40pm
 
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Do you know what happens with evaporation during the winter? It settles during the cooler periods of the day and night on other places. Not much of it blows away to the ocean. In fact, the great high-pressure systems have a tendency to push moist air onto the coast from the east and the north to the interior.


Ah, so it blows into the desert, not out to sea? That's great.

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I don't know what country you are from, but I have lived in the driest parts of the country, and I know that the flora can handle weak rainfall years. It is the crop growing areas that need the rainfall.


So we would be one step short of a dustbowl?

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Just for clarification, are you saying that a month's worth of rain in a day per month would also see drought from evaporation?


No. I think that is normal. In the really heavy rainfall events, a lot is lost to runoff.
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Reply #57 - May 22nd, 2017 at 10:13pm
 
The inspiration behind this is that Rockhampton has residents that do not like it when it rains too much. We are so accustomed to long periods of time between rainfall. If it does not rain for a month, we like to see the change in weather for rainfall. But if we get rain more than once a week, people seem to complain.

Personally, I would love it if we got 100mm of rain over this week, just before the winter starts. But, if not, it would be great to get a repeat of that 180mm+ rainfall in one day that we did get last winter.
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