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Reply #15 - May 18th, 2017 at 9:40am
 
AWG heats the globe, the extra heat causes more evaporation and that comes down as precipitation some time. Heat also melts ice, hence the state of the Arctic (and that in itself will effect climate right down to the tropics) and the retreat of glaciers and the 200million tons of ice Greenland is losing. Land based icesheets melting and the oceans warming cause sea levels to rise.

Those consequences of AGW are happening now.

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There has not been a cool month for 628 months!
AGW is here, Booby!

Incredibly, Boobyhead is NOT the dumbest here! Poopyhead thinks climate change is summer giving way to winter & vv!!! Jeez, DUMB!
 
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Reply #16 - May 18th, 2017 at 9:47am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on May 18th, 2017 at 9:40am:
AWG heats the globe, the extra heat causes more evaporation and that comes down as precipitation some time. Heat also melts ice, hence the state of the Arctic (and that in itself will effect climate right down to the tropics) and the retreat of glaciers and the 200million tons of ice Greenland is losing. Land based icesheets melting and the oceans warming cause sea levels to rise.

Those consequences of AGW are happening now.


Not a problem.

We're technically advanced enough to deal with any consequences of the average global temperature to rise by a couple of degrees.

Stop losing sleep over it and go make yourself an anchovy sandwich with a couple of pitted olives in it.

Sheesh! You bedwetters.
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Reply #17 - May 18th, 2017 at 9:53am
 
What is bedwetting about describing what is happening now? Some are doing the right thing, even the Chinese! Trump is taking the US backwards—and coastal community are planning on moving inland since the money for sea defences is not forthcoming.

There has not been as much CO2 in the atmosphere for millions of years so your comforting belief in cycles is null and void, ’Erbert.
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There has not been a cool month for 628 months!
AGW is here, Booby!

Incredibly, Boobyhead is NOT the dumbest here! Poopyhead thinks climate change is summer giving way to winter & vv!!! Jeez, DUMB!
 
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Reply #18 - May 18th, 2017 at 9:59am
 
Tim Flannery! Now there was a bedwetter!
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Reply #19 - May 18th, 2017 at 10:08am
 
Only if you misinterpret what he said, as most do.

Anyway, what is happening is recorded in the official record even if neocon govts are now (Trumpy, turdfull) trying to hide the record.
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Reply #20 - May 18th, 2017 at 10:22am
 
We know what he meant, Jovial. Make your predictions far enough into the future that if they fail to come about, noone even remembers. Here's a prediction;  in roughly four and a half billiin years the energy in the Earth wil burn itself out. Prove me wrong!
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Reply #21 - May 18th, 2017 at 10:38am
 
Actually, the most often misquoted of Flannery’s sayings referred to a time of drought in NSW, RWNJs expanded that to mean “forever” but you may have noticed I do not quote Flannery.
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Reply #22 - May 18th, 2017 at 10:40am
 
[quote author=Jovial_Abbott link=1495052533/19#19 date=1495066126]Only if you misinterpret what he said, as most do.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/it-pays-to-check-out-flannerys-predicti...

In 2005, Flannery predicted Sydney's dams could be dry in as little as two years because global warming was drying up the rains, leaving the city "facing extreme difficulties with water".

Check Sydney's dam levels today: 73 per cent. Hmm. Not a good start.

In 2008, Flannery said: "The water problem is so severe for Adelaide that it may run out of water by early 2009."

Check Adelaide's water storage levels today: 77 per cent.

In 2007, Flannery predicted cities such as Brisbane would never again have dam-filling rains, as global warming had caused "a 20 per cent decrease in rainfall in some areas" and made the soil too hot, "so even the rain that falls isn't actually going to fill our dams and river systems ... ".

Check the Murray-Darling system today: in flood. Check Brisbane's dam levels: 100 per cent full.

All this may seem funny, but some politicians, voters and investors have taken this kind of warming alarmism very seriously and made expensive decisions in the belief it was sound.

So let's check on them, too.

In 2007, Flannery predicted global warming would so dry our continent that desalination plants were needed to save three of our biggest cities from disaster.

As he put it: "Over the past 50 years, southern Australia has lost about 20 per cent of its rainfall, and one cause is almost certainly global warming ...

"In Adelaide, Sydney and Brisbane, water supplies are so low they need desalinated water urgently, possibly in as little as 18 months."

One premier, Queensland's Peter Beattie, took such predictions - made by other warming alarmists, too - so seriously that he spent more than $1 billion of taxpayers' money on a desalination plant, saying "it is only prudent to assume at this stage that lower-than-usual rainfalls could eventuate".

But check that desalination plant today: mothballed indefinitely, now that the rains have returned.

(Incidentally, notice how many of Flannery's big predictions date from 2007? That was the year warming alarmism reached its most hysterical pitch and Flannery was named Australian of the Year.)

Back to another tip Flannery gave in that year of warming terror. In 2007, he warned that "the social licence of coal to operate is rapidly being withdrawn globally" by governments worried by the warming allegedly caused by burning the stuff.

We should switch to "green" power instead, said Flannery, who recommended geothermal - pumping water on to hot rocks deep underground to create steam.

"There are hot rocks in South Australia that potentially have enough embedded energy in them to run Australia's economy for the best part of a century," he said.

"The technology to extract that energy and turn it into electricity is relatively straightforward."

Flannery repeatedly promoted this "straightforward" technology, and in 2009, the Rudd government awarded $90 million to Geodynamics to build a geothermal power plant in the Cooper Basin, the very area Flannery recommended. Coincidentally, Flannery has for years been a Geodynamics shareholder, a vested interest he sometimes declares.

Time to check on how that business tip went. Answer: erk.

The technology Flannery said was "relatively straighforward" wasn't.

One of Geodynamics' five wells at Innamincka collapsed in an explosion that damaged two others. All had to be plugged with cement.

The project has now been hit by the kind of floods Flannery didn't predict in a warming world, with Geodynamics announcing work had been further "delayed following extensive local rainfall in the Cooper Basin region".

The technological and financing difficulties mean there is no certainty now that a commercial-scale plant will ever get built, let alone prove viable, so it's no surprise the company's share price has almost halved in four months.

Never mind, here comes Flannery with his latest scares and you-beaut fix.

His job as Climate Commission chief, says Climate Change Minister Greg Combet, is to "provide an authoritative, independent source of information on climate change to the Australian community" and "build the consensus about reducing Australia's carbon pollution".

That, translated, means selling us whatever scheme the Government cooks up to tax carbon dioxide, doing to the economy what the floods have done to Flannery's hot-rocks investment.

See why I say Flannery is the right man for this job? Who better to teach us how little we really know about global warming and how much it may cost to panic?

Originally published as It pays to check climate predictions

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sorry monk... but really???... Grin Grin Grin

its there in black and white no running away from what he predicted..
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by aussie..You missed it, you inveterate foolish sot (yes that's me beginning to fire back.....)  because it never happened.
 
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Reply #23 - May 18th, 2017 at 10:41am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on May 18th, 2017 at 10:38am:
Actually, the most often misquoted of Flannery’s sayings referred to a time of drought in NSW, RWNJs expanded that to mean “forever” but you may have noticed I do not quote Flannery.



you did say he was misunderstood   at least I think thats what you meant..lolol..he was also paid a hell of a lot of money to get so much of it wrong wasnt he?.. Sad
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Reply #24 - May 18th, 2017 at 11:28am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on May 18th, 2017 at 10:38am:
Actually, the most often misquoted of Flannery’s sayings referred to a time of drought in NSW, RWNJs expanded that to mean “forever” but you may have noticed I do not quote Flannery.


I do.
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Reply #25 - May 18th, 2017 at 11:42am
 
Good.
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Reply #26 - May 18th, 2017 at 12:02pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on May 18th, 2017 at 9:53am:
—and coastal community are planning on moving inland since the money for sea defences is not forthcoming.


That's wonderful news.

The seafront Bedwetters will be selling off their nice waterside properties at a huge bargain.

When can we expect to see these Bedwetters posting up their FOR SALE signs?

Gordon?

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Reply #27 - May 18th, 2017 at 12:13pm
 
I suppose they'll all want to move to the higher grounds of Blacktown and Fairfield.
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Reply #28 - May 18th, 2017 at 12:19pm
 
This was more communities on the east coast of the US but whatever.
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Reply #29 - May 18th, 2017 at 12:24pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on May 18th, 2017 at 9:40am:
the 200million tons of ice Greenland is losing.



Only 13,000 years to go and it will be melted.

Jovial Monk wrote on May 18th, 2017 at 9:40am:
Land based icesheets melting and the oceans warming cause sea levels to rise.


When will the acceleration occur? According to both tides gauges and satellite.

Tide gauges have trouble with land - subsidence being one.

Satellites have trouble with accuracy -
"A series of satellite missions that started with TOPEX/Poseidon (T/P) in 1992 and continued with Jason-1 (2001–2013) and Jason-2 (2008–present) estimate global mean sea level every 10 days with an uncertainty of 3–4 mm."

https://www.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/sod/lsa/SeaLevelRise/
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