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May 16th, 2017 at 10:36am
 
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Tribunal lets fake Iranian refugees stay in Australia


SIX Iranian boat people were caught holidaying in their homeland after lying on their visa applications about fearing for their lives if they had to return there.

But Administrative Appeals Tribunal bureaucrats have foiled Immigration Minister Peter Dutton’s attempts to deport the Iranians, allowing them to stay here regardless.

Documents seen by the Herald Sun reveal in each case, the Iranians, who paid people smugglers to get to Australia, were given protection visas after claiming their lives would be in danger if they returned to Iran.

The visas were cancelled by Mr Dutton, or his delegate, after the Immigration Department discovered they voluntarily returned to Iran and later came back to Australia.

Documents reveal:

ONE made three return trips to Iran after getting his Australian visa, including one to get married under Islamic law, an event conducted by the Iranian authorities he was supposedly terrified of;

ANOTHER claimed to be on an Iranian wanted list, but the Immigration Department later discovered the person was in no danger by returning to Iran and was an economic migrant rather than a genuine refugee;

A COUPLE who arrived by boat claimed to have no identification documents and they would be killed if they returned to Iran, but later voluntarily travelled to Iran and back to Australia on valid Iranian passports; and

TWO Iranian family members claimed to be stateless with no identity documents — a lie discovered when another family member applied to join them in Australia and provided documents to show all were Iranian citizens who were in no danger of being persecuted in Iran.

The revelations will put further pressure on the AAT, already under fire for overturning thousands of visa decisions made by Mr Dutton or his delegate in the past year.

When asked by the Herald Sun on Monday about the Iranians having their visas reinstated by the AAT, a spokesman for Mr Dutton said he was considering his next step.

“The minister has the power to set aside AAT decisions,” the spokesman said.

“These matters will be reconsidered in due course. All matters are considered on a case-by-case basis.”

The Herald Sun is not able to name the six Iranians for legal reasons.   Roll Eyes All of them wrongly claimed in their visa applications that they faced danger in Iran if they were denied protection in Australia and deported.

Despite the AAT saying in the documents that it was satisfied the Iranian asylum seekers lied to Australian authorities about the dangers they faced if they were sent back to Iran, it still overturned the decisions by the minister to deport them and allowed them all to stay in Australia.

In one case, the AAT said it believed two family members who said they were “stateless” when they claimed that documents showing they were citizens of Iran were false. This was despite expert evidence to the AAT that the documents were genuine and had been provided by a relative of the supposedly stateless family members.

The Herald Sun last week revealed the AAT has overturned 4389 visa decisions made by Mr Dutton or his delegate in the past year.


That means that of the 11,323 ministerial visa decisions reviewed in the 12 months to April 30 this year,
the AAT rejected 39 per cent of them.


One of those the AAT overturned was Mr Dutton’s decision to kick Indian sex creep taxi driver Jagdeep Singh out of the country after he admitted indecently ­assaulting a female passenger in Melbourne. The AAT also foiled Mr Dutton’s attempt to deport rapist Carl Stafford to New Zealand, despite Stafford having racked up 365 convictions in Australia.



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Reply #1 - May 16th, 2017 at 10:38am
 

"The Herald Sun is not able to name the six Iranians for legal reasons".

Fake news   Roll Eyes
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Reply #2 - May 16th, 2017 at 10:41am
 
finally we have a Politician with the Guts and determination to get rid of these scum but out fat lazy Public Servants are working against us...  Angry

how is it that these scumbags can overturn Australia's decision to rid our country of this filth???

why did the Labor/Greens government give these scum permanent visa's when the Temporary Visa's worked far better in that the Government could cancel their Temp Visa's and send the ****ers back from whence they came???

Dutton is doing a fantastic job for Australia regardless of these traitors who are working against us...

keep up the good work Dutto.... don't let the scum win..
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Reply #3 - May 16th, 2017 at 10:48am
 

Come on Turnbull, fire the Administrative Appeals Tribunal bureaucrats .

Follow Trumps good lead.
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Reply #4 - May 16th, 2017 at 10:54am
 
Have they rorted CTP greenslips yet?
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Reply #5 - May 16th, 2017 at 11:56am
 
Gordon wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 10:54am:
Have they rorted CTP greenslips yet?


Good question, Gordon. Do you have an article that says CTP greenslip rorting is an epidemic among the tinted races?
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Reply #6 - May 16th, 2017 at 4:10pm
 
Karnal wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 11:56am:
Gordon wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 10:54am:
Have they rorted CTP greenslips yet?


Good question, Gordon. Do you have an article that says CTP greenslip rorting is an epidemic among the tinted races?


That's a bingo.

They allege many of the participants in the fraud were Iraqi citizens who had arrived in Australia via Christmas Island.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-13/man-charged-over-alleged-green-slip-insura...
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Reply #7 - May 16th, 2017 at 6:08pm
 
"Found to be refugee" undocumented illegal Iranian entrants are mostly fake.
Nobody would be surprised if most others were also fake.

So the line "the vast majority have been found to be genuine refugees" is completely discredited.

They are simply given the benefit of doubt because nobody can prove or disprove what they claim - and they are extensively couched in what to say, both by the smugglers and the 'refugee advocates' here.

The bargain was that stopping the boats would mean orderly immigration. But 'orderly' immigration is also gamed and often fraudulent so the bargain is not holding any more.

Annual permanent intake should be capped at 70-80 thousand including a limited number of refugees from compatible cultural backgrounds.



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Reply #8 - May 16th, 2017 at 6:15pm
 
what a smacking joke!!
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Reply #9 - May 16th, 2017 at 6:16pm
 
The Mechanic wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 10:36am:
Tribunal lets fake Iranian refugees stay in Australia



you just know when a story starts by calling recognised refugees 'fake' that the writer has no agenda , it inspires a lot of confidence in the rest of the crap they wrote


(sarcasm, for the thickheaded who don't get it)
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REPORTER: The condition of the budget will not be an excuse for breaking promises?

TONY ABBOTT: Exactly right. We will keep the commitments that we make.
 
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Reply #10 - May 16th, 2017 at 6:21pm
 
John Smith wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 6:16pm:
The Mechanic wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 10:36am:
Tribunal lets fake Iranian refugees stay in Australia



you just know when a story starts by calling recognised refugees 'fake' that the writer has no agenda , it inspires a lot of confidence in the rest of the crap they wrote


(sarcasm, for the thickheaded who don't get it)

fa rking off home when you are trying to escape home usually indicates deception nitwit.
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Reply #11 - May 16th, 2017 at 6:26pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 6:21pm:
John Smith wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 6:16pm:
The Mechanic wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 10:36am:
Tribunal lets fake Iranian refugees stay in Australia



you just know when a story starts by calling recognised refugees 'fake' that the writer has no agenda , it inspires a lot of confidence in the rest of the crap they wrote


(sarcasm, for the thickheaded who don't get it)

fa rking off home when you are trying to escape home usually indicates deception nitwit.


Not reporting the reasons for the findings also indicates deception, nitwit
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Reply #12 - May 16th, 2017 at 6:28pm
 
John Smith wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 6:26pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 6:21pm:
John Smith wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 6:16pm:
The Mechanic wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 10:36am:
Tribunal lets fake Iranian refugees stay in Australia



you just know when a story starts by calling recognised refugees 'fake' that the writer has no agenda , it inspires a lot of confidence in the rest of the crap they wrote


(sarcasm, for the thickheaded who don't get it)

fa rking off home when you are trying to escape home usually indicates deception nitwit.


Not reporting the reasons for the findings also indicates deception, nitwit
No answer relating to my point. Next!!
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Reply #13 - May 16th, 2017 at 6:29pm
 
John Smith wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 6:16pm:
The Mechanic wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 10:36am:
Tribunal lets fake Iranian refugees stay in Australia



you just know when a story starts by calling recognised refugees 'fake' that the writer has no agenda , it inspires a lot of confidence in the rest of the crap they wrote


(sarcasm, for the thickheaded who don't get it)

Well, if you claim to be in danger of persecution in Iran and then you go back there for a holiday - you ARE a fake refugee

And you are not alone.


There are hundreds of AAT decisions published (not all are, though), and you can see for yourself how it is done.


Dutton is now considering his next step. “The Minister has the power to set aside AAT decisions,” a spokesman told The Daily Telegraph. “These matters will be reconsidered in due course. All matters are considered on a case-by-case basis.”
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Reply #14 - May 16th, 2017 at 6:32pm
 
A couple who arrived by boat claimed to have no identification documents and that they would be killed if they returned to Iran, but later voluntarily travelled to Iran and back to Australia on valid Iranian passports.

And two Iranian family members claimed to be stateless with no identity documents — a lie discovered when another family member applied to join them in Australia and provided documents to show all were Iranian citizens who were in no danger of being persecuted.

The revelations will put further pressure on the AAT, already under fire for overturning thousands of visa decisions made by Mr Dutton or his delegate in the past year.

When asked yesterday about the Iranians having their visas reinstated by the AAT, a spokesman for Mr Dutton told the Herald Sun he was considering the next step. “The minister has the power to set aside AAT decisions,” the spokesman said.

Despite the AAT saying it was satisfied the Iranian asylum-seekers lied to Australian authorities about the dangers they faced if they were sent back to Iran, it still overturned the decisions by the minister. It was revealed last week that the AAT had overturned 4389 visa decisions made by Mr Dutton or his delegate in the past year.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/immigration/refugees-feared-for...
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