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Re: Right to Openly Discuss Ideas must be Defended...
Reply #15 - May 17th, 2017 at 8:22pm
 
Valkie wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 8:17pm:
Francis wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 12:05am:
Freedom  of speech  and expression  of thought  is a right hard gained by wars and sacrifice  in our immediate  past.

I may not agree  with  anything  mechanic  posts....but I  defend  his right to  post it and enjoy  debating  his ideas with him Cool

That...and that alone  is what  makes  Australia  so great !



Just try that in a muzzo country.




Yes, we used to say they had freedom.of speech in Indonesia and Turkey.

Not anymore, I fear.
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Reply #16 - May 17th, 2017 at 9:13pm
 
Karnal wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 8:22pm:
Valkie wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 8:17pm:
Francis wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 12:05am:
Freedom  of speech  and expression  of thought  is a right hard gained by wars and sacrifice  in our immediate  past.

I may not agree  with  anything  mechanic  posts....but I  defend  his right to  post it and enjoy  debating  his ideas with him Cool

That...and that alone  is what  makes  Australia  so great !



Just try that in a muzzo country.




Yes, we used to say they had freedom.of speech in Indonesia and Turkey.

Not anymore, I fear.



More Islam, less freedom - the two cases in point.

Do not be afraid (to notice and say).

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Reply #17 - May 17th, 2017 at 9:14pm
 
Not sure what it has to do with freedom of speech ?

He had a sign but there is no debate about the freedom of read.

If the guy really wanted to speak why didn't he bring someone to listen ?

Besides what did he think he would achieve by talking to that package of nuts ?
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Reply #18 - May 17th, 2017 at 9:49pm
 
Frank wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 9:13pm:
Karnal wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 8:22pm:
Valkie wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 8:17pm:
Francis wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 12:05am:
Freedom  of speech  and expression  of thought  is a right hard gained by wars and sacrifice  in our immediate  past.

I may not agree  with  anything  mechanic  posts....but I  defend  his right to  post it and enjoy  debating  his ideas with him Cool

That...and that alone  is what  makes  Australia  so great !



Just try that in a muzzo country.




Yes, we used to say they had freedom.of speech in Indonesia and Turkey.

Not anymore, I fear.



More Islam, less freedom - the two cases in point.

Do not be afraid (to notice and say).



Oh, I don't think your latest Amerikan prophet's too big on freedom either, dear boy.

You?
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Reply #19 - May 17th, 2017 at 9:52pm
 
The Mechanic wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 10:21am:
Right to Openly Discuss Ideas must be Defended


So I assume that you would defend Yassmin Abdel-Magied's Anzac day tweet and her right to openly discuss ideas?


The Mechanic wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 8:49pm:
if this was Andrew Bolt he'd be charged under the 18c laws....

and this is what needs to happen to this rotten Islamic bitch...  Angry


Oh dear, I guess not
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The Right Wing only believe in free speech when they agree with what is being said.
 
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Reply #20 - May 17th, 2017 at 9:59pm
 
The right of someone to openly express their views shouldn't be confused with a person's responsibility for what they say. The audience has a right to take the speaker seriously. If a person indicates they are danger by the language they use, they can fully expect to be taken seriously as a danger.
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Reply #21 - May 18th, 2017 at 6:50am
 
As long as it isn't Islamofascism.
Must not imply Islam is totalitarian or oppressive or barbarian.
I mean, free speech must be limited to acceptable things like " kill Trump", no?
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Reply #22 - May 19th, 2017 at 9:20pm
 
Gerald Fredrick Töben was jailed in 2009 by our high court for having the wrong opinion on history, thanks to section 18c and the HREOC.
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Reply #23 - May 19th, 2017 at 9:21pm
 
Valkie wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 8:17pm:
Francis wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 12:05am:
Freedom  of speech  and expression  of thought  is a right hard gained by wars and sacrifice  in our immediate  past.

I may not agree  with  anything  mechanic  posts....but I  defend  his right to  post it and enjoy  debating  his ideas with him Cool

That...and that alone  is what  makes  Australia  so great !



Just try that in a muzzo country.



we're not in a muzzo country. If you want to change muzzo countries join a Saudipolitics forum
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Reply #24 - May 19th, 2017 at 9:22pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 9:52pm:
The Mechanic wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 10:21am:
Right to Openly Discuss Ideas must be Defended


So I assume that you would defend Yassmin Abdel-Magied's Anzac day tweet and her right to openly discuss ideas?


The Mechanic wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 8:49pm:
if this was Andrew Bolt he'd be charged under the 18c laws....

and this is what needs to happen to this rotten Islamic bitch...  Angry


Oh dear, I guess not


Grin Grin

ouch
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Reply #25 - May 19th, 2017 at 9:23pm
 
freediver wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 9:20pm:
Gerald Fredrick Töben was jailed in 2009 by our high court for having the wrong opinion on history, thanks to section 18c and the HREOC.


you still keeping that lie going?

he was jailed for breaching a court order.
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Reply #26 - May 19th, 2017 at 9:28pm
 
John Smith wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 9:23pm:
freediver wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 9:20pm:
Gerald Fredrick Töben was jailed in 2009 by our high court for having the wrong opinion on history, thanks to section 18c and the HREOC.


you still keeping that lie going?

he was jailed for breaching a court order.


What did he do to breach it?
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Reply #27 - May 19th, 2017 at 11:48pm
 


Close to the mark!!

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For years now I’ve said that anti-free-speech leftists and the men who slaughtered the staff of Charlie Hebdo, shot up Lars Vilks’ event in Copenhagen, etc, are merely different points on the same continuum:

They’re both in the shut-up business: both groups find it quicker and easier and more satisfying to silence you than to debate you.

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/05/mark-steyn-the-poisoning-of-robert-spencer




Those who would shut down all 'contentious' debate [in order to shut down examination, criticism, scrutiny and who oppose accountability].....

.....intellectually, such people are simply wanna-be tyrants.

Truth......

They are the 'intellectual' equals, of those who are thugs and murderers !



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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead." Luke 16:31
 
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Reply #28 - May 20th, 2017 at 12:49am
 
Mr Hammer wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 9:59pm:
The right of someone to openly express their views shouldn't be confused with a person's responsibility for what they say. The audience has a right to take the speaker seriously. If a person indicates they are danger by the language they use, they can fully expect to be taken seriously as a danger.


Kill them.
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Reply #29 - May 20th, 2017 at 2:14am
 
Valkie wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 7:29pm:
Thats the way we are heading.

Its not so funny as you think


No it is funnier.

Stacked with stereotypes and not bad satire.. if it worries you,  you have got some serious problems.

Trump is a good example of a person who says one thing and does the opposite.

He denies, deflects and refuses to speak. The vid posted by Setanta is amusing and so clichéd it has to be funny.

Freedom of speech works both ways.. you don't like it?  You don't believe in freedom of speech.

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