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Reply #15 - May 15th, 2017 at 2:27pm
 
A direct result of Conroy planning the NBN off a napkin.
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Reply #16 - May 15th, 2017 at 2:35pm
 
You do know that that isn’t true, right Armpit? The Panel of Experts recommended the FTTh rollout.

In any case, Libs have been in power since 2013—about time they and you did something besides blame Labor.

In any case, Malcolm thought of using corroded, too–thin Telstra copper all by himself. Probably to benefit his Telstra shares because nothing about this makes sense otherwise.
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Reply #17 - May 15th, 2017 at 2:36pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on May 15th, 2017 at 2:27pm:
A direct result of Conroy planning the NBN off a napkin.


a direct result of reading to much murdoch crap  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #18 - May 15th, 2017 at 7:10pm
 
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NBN enters ‘cone of silence’ on estimated internet speed

The National Broadband Network has a database setting out ­estimated internet speeds for new connections for millions of homes nationwide but is denying the public access, despite gouging by telcos selling high-speed connections that are unattainable.

NBN Co has confirmed it has the nationwide figures but will provide that information only to internet providers such as Telstra and Optus, despite revelations of widespread overselling of internet packages by those companies. “At this time, we believe the retail service provider is in the best position to advise their customers on performance information, including service speed, regarding their retail products,” an NBN Co spokeswoman said.

ALP spokesman for regional communications Stephen Jones said NBN’s stand was inadequate and called on it to make the data public to ensure transparency and prevent scamming by phone companies.

“It is absolutely essential that as much information is available to end users; this is about the reputation of the NBN, the phone companies and consumer con­fidence,” he told The Australian.

“At the moment, people (are) being bounced between the phone companies who are pointing the finger at the NBN and the NBN is pointing their finger at the phone companies and it’s the poor old customer caught in middle who doesn’t know who is telling the truth.”

The NBN Co spokeswoman said speed estimates were available for all premises that had existing copper phone lines.

While retailers who sell the NBN to customers — of which there are more than 400 — can ­request speed estimated on behalf of would-be customers before they sign up, this very rarely happens and telcos seeking to sell inflated packages are incentivised against doing so.

Telstra and Optus declined to comment when asked how often they accessed the data on behalf of prospective customers.

As previously revealed by The Australian, some NBN customers are achieving speeds as low as 1-500th of the “up to” speed packages they have signed to.

The Australian Competition & Consumer Commission has been telling phone companies since at least 2011 to not advertise “up to” broadband speeds because they can be highly misleading. Despite this, all the major providers have snubbed the ACCC’s demands and continue to advertise maximum speeds to customers.

The ACCC has taken no action against any telco for the practice, leading critics to argue it is asleep at the wheel.

NBN Co sells speed packages, including 25Mbs, 50Mbs and 100Mbs, to phone companies, meaning those speeds can theoretically be achieved on each of those connections.

However, the phone company must also purchase adequate “bandwidth” from NBN Co to allow for those speeds to be ­delivered when multiple users are online at once.

NBN sells bandwidth at a higher price compared to other international internet wholesalers — such as New Zealand’s wholesaler — meaning telcos heavily factor in how much or how little bandwidth they buy in order to maximise profits.

The bandwidth issue is the key reason why many users have found the NBN to be slower than their previous connections.

Weekdays from 5pm to 8pm is peak internet use time and when many users from one phone company are online simultaneously, speeds can drop as low as 0.1Mbs.

The bandwidth issue and profits being enjoyed by telcos who under-purchase are key reasons behind calls for increased transparency.

The Australian has obtained emails from Telstra that show its internet salespeople are at times not aware of what speeds are available in whole regions, let alone individual homes.

If NBN Co were to make its ­estimated speeds publicly available, individual customers would be able to determine what speeds they could expect.

The NBN Co spokeswoman said the estimated speeds were based on “cable records”.

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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/technology/nbn-enters-cone-of-silence-o...

The MTM is a steaming heap of excrement. It by itself (but there is soooo much more) will see the stupid, corrupt Libs booted in 2019.
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Reply #19 - May 17th, 2017 at 7:26am
 
So bad is the MTM that Telstra is going to reimburse customers for “speed boosts” that didn’t boost speed. That the ACCC is going to track speeds achieved is pure coincidence of course  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Telstra has become the first retail service provider to offer financial compensation to thousands of angry NBN customers who have received substandard internet speeds.

The telecommunications company admitted that one per cent of its NBN customers – about 7900 people – had been promised speeds that were unattainable, blaming the varied NBN technologies for the inconsistent speeds across the network.

In a blog post, Telstra Retail group executive Kevin Russell said it was “critical” that customers did not pay for speeds any higher than what their home or business was able to receive.


“The vast majority of customers are seeing the performance we expect. However, we identified a subset of customers on fibre-to-the-node (FTTN) who have taken up a ‘speed boost’ who are not receiving the higher speeds we expect,” he wrote.

“We’re in the process of proactively contacting those customers to move them to a speed tier their NBN service supports.

“In any cases where we believe that customers may have paid for a ‘speed boost’ they haven’t benefited from, we’ll be reimbursing … any ‘speed boost’ charges they have incurred.”

This comes one month after the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission announced it would begin tracking internet speeds delivered to NBN customers by each retailer.

Last week the Telecommunications Industry Ombudsman released figures revealing more than 7500 NBN-related complaints in the six months from July to December 2016.

Criticism over the network surged 117.5 per cent compared to the previous year.

Throughout the national rollout, many customers have complained that neither their service provider nor NBN Co take responsibility for the network’s failures, often passing the buck to the other party.


http://thenewdaily.com.au/life/tech/2017/05/16/telstra-refund-reimburse-internet...

Spending $60Bn running FTTH over Telstra’s rotten and too thin copper is lunacy and corruption! Turdfull has shares in three FTTH rollouts so he knows only FTTH works. Too bad for the idiotic, corrupt Libs Netflix arrived and really underscored how bad FTTN really is! It seems NBN HFC is as bad as FTTN!

This has set up back heaps as a nation and an economy. Businesses and hospitals put on FTTN are hampered by slow speeds and frequent drop outs.

There must be a RC into this corruption in 2019! $60Bn just wasted on what all involved was madness but madness profitable for some!

One way to fix this crap: remove the CVC charge. That will allow for higher speeds by removing ONE source of congestion. Undo the ridiculous 121 POI and smaller RSPs will be able to offer lower cost services, the 121 POIs only benefitted Telstra and Optus.

The stinking Libs did not run enough fibre out to each node cabinet or another source of congestion could have been fixed: a card with eight 1Gbps fibres split among 192 or 352 copper lines intead of the present pathetic ONE!

Then start rolling out FTTH as fast as possible!

Business magazine Forbes is also bulk unimpressed with Malcolm’s Terrible Muddle:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/millystilinovic/2017/02/14/how-australias-ridiculou...
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Reply #20 - May 17th, 2017 at 8:18am
 
If you are “lucky” enough to be slated to get FTTN then get a cabling guy in to run new copper to the Telstra connection and remove all phone sockets other than the very first.

That will improve your FTTN experience somewhat.

Ironic that the national chit sheet was talking about having to spend $3000 to rewire your home for FTTH when FTTH doesn’t use the copper phone lines in your home yet with FTTN you DO need to rewire your home.

Good luck with getting fax machines, alarms etc to work over FTTN.
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Reply #21 - May 17th, 2017 at 9:49am
 
Paul Budde on the broadband tax the shambles is introducing, throwing good money after bad, to try and plug the bottomless pit that is the MTM debacle:

https://independentaustralia.net/business/business-display/latest-nbnfail-taxpay...
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Reply #22 - May 17th, 2017 at 12:42pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on May 15th, 2017 at 2:27pm:
A direct result of Conroy planning the NBN off a napkin.

You want the ice to melt and my kids to have copper internet in a country that built the rising dragon: you can kiss my little acorn buddy and the whole internet laughs because they know you're just a spark that left the fire a long time ago!

Copper Internet legacy forever for the bluebloods and the whole world laughs at you and you know it!
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Reply #23 - May 18th, 2017 at 9:36am
 
TheFunPolice wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 12:42pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on May 15th, 2017 at 2:27pm:
A direct result of Conroy planning the NBN off a napkin.

You want the ice to melt and my kids to have copper internet in a country that built the rising dragon: you can kiss my little acorn buddy and the whole internet laughs because they know you're just a spark that left the fire a long time ago!

Copper Internet legacy forever for the bluebloods and the whole world laughs at you and you know it!


And you get the world record for the biggest leap, by going from internet speeds to melting ice!  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #24 - May 18th, 2017 at 9:41am
 
And Armpit thinks the Libs could do nothing about either.
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Reply #25 - May 18th, 2017 at 10:53am
 
NBN co has bought 15,000Km of new copper! Full retreat back to the 19thC for NBN Co!

Anything but fibre!
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Reply #26 - May 18th, 2017 at 12:54pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on May 18th, 2017 at 9:36am:
TheFunPolice wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 12:42pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on May 15th, 2017 at 2:27pm:
A direct result of Conroy planning the NBN off a napkin.

You want the ice to melt and my kids to have copper internet in a country that built the rising dragon: you can kiss my little acorn buddy and the whole internet laughs because they know you're just a spark that left the fire a long time ago!

Copper Internet legacy forever for the bluebloods and the whole world laughs at you and you know it!


And you get the world record for the biggest leap, by going from internet speeds to melting ice!  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Keep laughing when malcolm and tonys copper internet gets globally renowned for being the biggest scam any commercially-fascist government ever pulled ever
  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

(..and it already is and we all know it: especially the young liberal voters and their parents feel a little bit annoyed that they know that they know  Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss)
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Reply #27 - May 18th, 2017 at 12:57pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on May 18th, 2017 at 10:53am:
NBN co has bought 15,000Km of new copper! Full retreat back to the 19thC for NBN Co!

Anything but fibre!

The copper noose is already of global infamy for a once proud clever country that whole-heartedly embraced greed.... libs are fubar'd and the young vote is not the only reason!
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Reply #28 - May 18th, 2017 at 1:40pm
 
Yup, we are an international laughing stock for spending $60Bn on copper—to make internet speeds go backwards and reliability to drop into the cellar. NOBODY before Turdfull has ever bought a rotten, too old, too thin copper network to roll FTTN out on it. NOBODY!

I have switched to wireless internet, better than my ADSL and not as unreliable as FTTN over Telstra’s too thin, too rotten copper!

15,000Kms of copper, for goodness sake just how far backwards do they want to take us?
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Reply #29 - May 19th, 2017 at 1:48pm
 
Turnbull has no supporters with copper internet and that is why tony has no chance of coming back leaving the libs a sinking ship and don't they all know it!

THE STENCH OF JOHN HOWARD STILL REMAINS ...

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-Imagine being a liberal voter and having spent the last 20 years of your life pretending you have more business acumen tha tanyone else in the room  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

NOW THAT'S EMBARRASING- GLOBALLY EMBARRASSING!
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