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Reply #30 - Apr 26th, 2017 at 5:38pm
 
I think the media has been so desperate to promote Muslim community leaders that they have dropped their standards, in a form of reverse discrimination. I suspect in the end it will backfire on them.
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Reply #31 - Apr 26th, 2017 at 6:03pm
 
Part of the problem with why Abdel-Magied’s comments attracted such a swift backlash is the nature of Anzac Day itself. Despite government-funded initiatives to try and create one specific narrative around Anzac Day (with a particular focus on our British history), it means different things to different people.

For some, it’s purely about remembering the lives lost in Gallipoli and World War I. For Turkish-Australians, it can be about celebrating Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, who fought against the Anzacs and went on to found the modern Turkish state. For others, it’s about supporting our veterans. And for plenty more it’s about getting pissed at the pub and playing two-up.

But surely within this range of activities there’s space for some reflection on the consequences of war, both historically and in the modern day. Perhaps this is what Abdel-Magied’s post was aiming to do.

There are refugees our government has locked up on Manus Island and Nauru who have fled war; in some cases they have fled wars that we are responsible for.

But even if you think Abdel-Magied didn’t express her views respectfully enough it seems like a very long bow to position them as the “ultimate insult”. Compare the response to Abdel-Magied’s Facebook post to this one by a Darwin bar, promoting an Anzac Day wet t-shirt competition

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Raven finds this more offensive that what Abdul-Magied wrote.

The president of Darwin’s RSL wasn’t happy but he gave very measured advice and steered away from condemnation: “Just remember the fallen, a lot of people gave their lives. We’ve lost a lot of men and we’re still losing them in conflicts overseas, but the good thing is we’ve had no more attacks on our land and that’s an important thing to remember.”

But that was it. No heavy-handed political denunciations. Compare the muted response to an Anzac Day wet t-shirt contest with the ferocious backlash Abdel-Magied received for daring to bring up our treatment of refugees. The attacks from Hanson and Coalition MPs don’t seem to be entirely about the ‘sanctity’ of Anzac Day, but the fact that they really can’t handle having their own comfortable narratives challenged.

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Reply #32 - Apr 26th, 2017 at 6:08pm
 
cods wrote on Apr 26th, 2017 at 3:49pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 26th, 2017 at 3:21pm:
cods wrote on Apr 26th, 2017 at 2:42pm:
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/online-petition-calls-for-abc-to-sack-...

IN less than 24 hours, over 15,000 people have signed an online petition calling on ABC managing director Michelle Guthrie to terminate Yassmin Abdel-Magied’s employment with the taxpayer-funded broadcaster.


The ABC will have to bone her but they'll do it softly,  like she'll take a break then not renew a contract.



well shes only part time isnt she...probably get a job at SBS either way we will be paying her..lol


SBS is tax payer funded just like the ABC.
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Reply #33 - Apr 26th, 2017 at 6:15pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 26th, 2017 at 4:20pm:
red baron wrote on Apr 26th, 2017 at 4:08pm:
Can you imagine the brouha if a whitey got stuck into the Muslims in that way on the ABC

They would be an ex Presenter so fast it would make their head spin

Because she is Muslim she will not even get a slap over the wrist. The ABC have done a Pontius Pilate on this one

Gutless pricks!


I agree, Red. Imagine if someone said Turkey should think about the refugees on their ANZAC Day.

The uproar from the apologists would be deafening.

Typical.


The only time Turkey think about refugees is when they(Erdogan) don't get their way regarding entry into the EU ... or getting paid to stop the flood of the invading horde.

When they don't Erdogan threaten to open the flood gates of muslim refugee migration.

How about all the other wealthy arab states that have taken exactly zero ... fellow muslim refugees from Syria & surrounding borders areas?

Another part of the agenda, no?
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Reply #34 - Apr 26th, 2017 at 6:16pm
 
They just cant keep their bloody (both figuratively and actually speaking)hands off anything they think they can use to their advantage.

Its disgusting.
ANZAC day is for Australians and New Zealand soldiers, not some country shoppers or terrorists.

Disgraceful
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Reply #35 - Apr 26th, 2017 at 6:18pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 26th, 2017 at 5:38pm:
I think the media has been so desperate to promote Muslim community leaders that they have dropped their standards, in a form of reverse discrimination. I suspect in the end it will backfire on them.


Come on FD ..... there's no such thing as reverse discrimination.

Discrimination is discrimination.

To use the "reverse" adjective you have to believe the propaganda that only one demographic of the population is capable of discrimination.

Which we all know is complete bullshyte.
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Reply #36 - Apr 26th, 2017 at 6:23pm
 
Raven wrote on Apr 26th, 2017 at 6:03pm:
Part of the problem with why Abdel-Magied’s comments attracted such a swift backlash is the nature of Anzac Day itself. Despite government-funded initiatives to try and create one specific narrative around Anzac Day (with a particular focus on our British history), it means different things to different people.

For some, it’s purely about remembering the lives lost in Gallipoli and World War I. For Turkish-Australians, it can be about celebrating Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, who fought against the Anzacs and went on to found the modern Turkish state. For others, it’s about supporting our veterans. And for plenty more it’s about getting pissed at the pub and playing two-up.

But surely within this range of activities there’s space for some reflection on the consequences of war, both historically and in the modern day. Perhaps this is what Abdel-Magied’s post was aiming to do.

There are refugees our government has locked up on Manus Island and Nauru who have fled war; in some cases they have fled wars that we are responsible for.

But even if you think Abdel-Magied didn’t express her views respectfully enough it seems like a very long bow to position them as the “ultimate insult”. Compare the response to Abdel-Magied’s Facebook post to this one by a Darwin bar, promoting an Anzac Day wet t-shirt competition

http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/8470988-3x4-340x453.jpg

Raven finds this more offensive that what Abdul-Magied wrote.

The president of Darwin’s RSL wasn’t happy but he gave very measured advice and steered away from condemnation: “Just remember the fallen, a lot of people gave their lives. We’ve lost a lot of men and we’re still losing them in conflicts overseas, but the good thing is we’ve had no more attacks on our land and that’s an important thing to remember.”

But that was it. No heavy-handed political denunciations. Compare the muted response to an Anzac Day wet t-shirt contest with the ferocious backlash Abdel-Magied received for daring to bring up our treatment of refugees. The attacks from Hanson and Coalition MPs don’t seem to be entirely about the ‘sanctity’ of Anzac Day, but the fact that they really can’t handle having their own comfortable narratives challenged.



1. pure speculation

2. And there are those who are simply economic migrants who have come from non conflict countries.

3. If you come by people smuggler boat you don't get to stay.

4. And there aren't 364 other days of the year to make that point?
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Reply #37 - Apr 26th, 2017 at 11:46pm
 
Gnads wrote on Apr 26th, 2017 at 6:15pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 26th, 2017 at 4:20pm:
red baron wrote on Apr 26th, 2017 at 4:08pm:
Can you imagine the brouha if a whitey got stuck into the Muslims in that way on the ABC

They would be an ex Presenter so fast it would make their head spin

Because she is Muslim she will not even get a slap over the wrist. The ABC have done a Pontius Pilate on this one

Gutless pricks!


I agree, Red. Imagine if someone said Turkey should think about the refugees on their ANZAC Day.

The uproar from the apologists would be deafening.

Typical.


The only time Turkey think about refugees is when they(Erdogan) don't get their way regarding entry into the EU ... or getting paid to stop the flood of the invading horde.

When they don't Erdogan threaten to open the flood gates of muslim refugee migration.

How about all the other wealthy arab states that have taken exactly zero ... fellow muslim refugees from Syria & surrounding borders areas?

Another part of the agenda, no?


Get him, Mechanic. He just talked about refugees in an ANZAC Day thread.
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Reply #38 - Apr 26th, 2017 at 11:48pm
 
Valkie wrote on Apr 26th, 2017 at 6:16pm:
They just cant keep their bloody (both figuratively and actually speaking)hands off anything they think they can use to their advantage.

Its disgusting.
ANZAC day is for Australians and New Zealand soldiers, not some country shoppers or terrorists.

Disgraceful


Don't let the Mechanic hear you say that, Matty. (He's one of the country shoppers).
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Reply #39 - Apr 27th, 2017 at 1:41am
 
Personally, I don't overly care about what some 26yr. old part-time presenter said. It's a bit offensive, but I find it more naïve than anything else.
Then again, these controversial comments tend to make a career for one where there would otherwise be none.
Who would've heard of her if not for some controversy?
That's playing the capitalism game to a tee.

The wet t-shirt contest could also be deemed offensive, even though those diggers who died in their youth would most probably be saying " Yeah baby! That's what we died for". 




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Reply #40 - Apr 27th, 2017 at 7:16am
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 26th, 2017 at 11:46pm:
Gnads wrote on Apr 26th, 2017 at 6:15pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 26th, 2017 at 4:20pm:
red baron wrote on Apr 26th, 2017 at 4:08pm:
Can you imagine the brouha if a whitey got stuck into the Muslims in that way on the ABC

They would be an ex Presenter so fast it would make their head spin

Because she is Muslim she will not even get a slap over the wrist. The ABC have done a Pontius Pilate on this one

Gutless pricks!


I agree, Red. Imagine if someone said Turkey should think about the refugees on their ANZAC Day.

The uproar from the apologists would be deafening.

Typical.


The only time Turkey think about refugees is when they(Erdogan) don't get their way regarding entry into the EU ... or getting paid to stop the flood of the invading horde.

When they don't Erdogan threaten to open the flood gates of muslim refugee migration.

How about all the other wealthy arab states that have taken exactly zero ... fellow muslim refugees from Syria & surrounding borders areas?

Another part of the agenda, no?


Get him, Mechanic. He just talked about refugees in an ANZAC Day thread.
I wonder how she'd act if I showed her a picture of her prophet? I thought Muslims were experts on the issue of not causing offence? Oh yeah, only when it affects them.
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Reply #41 - Apr 27th, 2017 at 7:29am
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 7:02pm:
... she suggested Australians should be thinking about Manus Island, Nauru, Syria and Palestine today instead of the Anzacs.


Incorrect.

Rightards telling lies - who ever heard of such a thing?
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Reply #42 - Apr 27th, 2017 at 7:56am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 7:29am:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 7:02pm:
... she suggested Australians should be thinking about Manus Island, Nauru, Syria and Palestine today instead of the Anzacs.


Incorrect.

Rightards telling lies - who ever heard of such a thing?




Are you still here greggery ?

I thought that you had left OzPol, as per the undertaking you made ?



Oh that's right.

Nothing that you         say,         has any credibility.

You are like a moslem, who makes a promise, and swears an oath.

Quack, quack.




Quote:

On keeping oaths, on keeping your word, on honouring a verbal undertaking we make....

Read what ALLAH commands;

"Allah indeed has sanctioned for you the expiation of your oaths and Allah is your Protector, and He is the Knowing the Wise."

Koran 66:2


"The Prophet said, "If I take an oath and later find something else better than that, then I do what is better and expiate my oath."."


hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #007.067.427
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #008.078.618
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #008.079.709
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #008.079.710
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #008.079.712
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #008.079.715

Coz, Mohammed was a covenant breaker, and a liar,
just like Mohammed's god
.




.....just like greggery.

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Reply #43 - Apr 27th, 2017 at 7:58am
 
Yadda wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 7:56am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 27th, 2017 at 7:29am:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 7:02pm:
... she suggested Australians should be thinking about Manus Island, Nauru, Syria and Palestine today instead of the Anzacs.


Incorrect.

Rightards telling lies - who ever heard of such a thing?




Are you still here greggery ?

I thought that you had left OzPol, as per the undertaking you made ?



Oh that's right.

You have no credibility.

You are like a moslem, who makes a promise, and swears an oath.

Quack, quack.




Quote:

On keeping oaths, on keeping your word, on honouring a verbal undertaking we make....

Read what ALLAH commands;

"Allah indeed has sanctioned for you the expiation of your oaths and Allah is your Protector, and He is the Knowing the Wise."

Koran 66:2


"The Prophet said, "If I take an oath and later find something else better than that, then I do what is better and expiate my oath."."


hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #007.067.427
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #008.078.618
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #008.079.709
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #008.079.710
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #008.079.712
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #008.079.715

Coz, Mohammed was a covenant breaker, and a liar,
just like Mohammed's god
.




.....just like greggery.




No.  Are you?

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Reply #44 - Apr 27th, 2017 at 8:07am
 
Gnads wrote on Apr 26th, 2017 at 6:18pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 26th, 2017 at 5:38pm:
I think the media has been so desperate to promote Muslim community leaders that they have dropped their standards, in a form of reverse discrimination. I suspect in the end it will backfire on them.


Come on FD ..... there's no such thing as reverse discrimination.

Discrimination is discrimination.

To use the "reverse" adjective you have to believe the propaganda that only one demographic of the population is capable of discrimination.

Which we all know is complete bullshyte.



   fd means the media   and we are at the mercy of the media.....they tell us there is a bad case of Islamphobia in Australia   and before you know it  anyone who looks sideways at a Muslim  or dares to voice an opinion is immediately labeled..

yet Ms Abdel Magried wasn t called an Christianphobe..

and I am not suggesting she should be....but it is a two way street..
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