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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39522 Gender:	Re: Does ANZAC day glorify war? Reply #15 - Apr 25^th, 2017 at 12:00am
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39522 Gender:	Re: Does ANZAC day glorify war? Reply #18 - Apr 25^th, 2017 at 12:02am How do these images NOT glorify war ?
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oh dear Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 715 Gender:	Re: Does ANZAC day glorify war? Reply #19 - Apr 25^th, 2017 at 12:10am Post as many images as you like the fact remains that many served to defend is one day to much to ask?
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39522 Gender:	Re: Does ANZAC day glorify war? Reply #20 - Apr 25^th, 2017 at 12:14am oh dear wrote on Apr 25^th, 2017 at 12:10am: Post as many images as you like the fact remains that many served to defend is one day to much to ask? So, you have stopped the personal attacks on an elderly man ?
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Reply #21 - Apr 25^th, 2017 at 12:16am

oh dear wrote on Apr 25^th, 2017 at 12:10am:

Post as many images as you like the fact remains that many served to defend is one day to much to ask?

See.....that is where I beg to differ. My Old Man went to War for no reason other than he was required to. No 'defence' about it. He did the job he was asked to do. So did his Uncle, and so did the Brigadier. Not one of them had 'defence' in mind.

Nor 'freedom' nor 'democracy.'

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oh dear Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 715 Gender:	Re: Does ANZAC day glorify war? Reply #22 - Apr 25^th, 2017 at 12:18am Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 25^th, 2017 at 12:14am: oh dear wrote on Apr 25^th, 2017 at 12:10am: Post as many images as you like the fact remains that many served to defend is one day to much to ask? So, you have stopped the personal attacks on an elderly man ? i dont give a stuff how old your friend is he is wrong
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Reply #23 - Apr 25^th, 2017 at 12:21am

Aussie wrote on Apr 25^th, 2017 at 12:16am:

oh dear wrote on Apr 25^th, 2017 at 12:10am:

Post as many images as you like the fact remains that many served to defend is one day to much to ask?

See.....that is where I beg to differ. My Old Man went to War for no reason other than he was required to. No 'defence' about it. He did the job he was asked to do. So did his Uncle, and so did the Brigadier. Not one of them had 'defence' in mind.

Nor 'freedom' nor 'democracy.'

Yes, generally the poor or unconnected get sent to war.

A war is the failure of politicians.
Send their children to war first.

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Reply #24 - Apr 25^th, 2017 at 12:21am

Aussie wrote on Apr 25^th, 2017 at 12:16am:

oh dear wrote on Apr 25^th, 2017 at 12:10am:

Post as many images as you like the fact remains that many served to defend is one day to much to ask?

See.....that is where I beg to differ. My Old Man went to War for no reason other than he was required to. No 'defence' about it. He did the job he was asked to do. So did his Uncle, and so did the Brigadier. Not one of them had 'defence' in mind.

Nor 'freedom' nor 'democracy.'

Ok so why did they go? if they chose not to they would have been seen as cowards

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Reply #25 - Apr 25^th, 2017 at 12:26am

oh dear wrote on Apr 25^th, 2017 at 12:21am:

Aussie wrote on Apr 25^th, 2017 at 12:16am:

oh dear wrote on Apr 25^th, 2017 at 12:10am:

Post as many images as you like the fact remains that many served to defend is one day to much to ask?

See.....that is where I beg to differ. My Old Man went to War for no reason other than he was required to. No 'defence' about it. He did the job he was asked to do. So did his Uncle, and so did the Brigadier. Not one of them had 'defence' in mind.

Nor 'freedom' nor 'democracy.'

Ok so why did they go? if they chose not to they would have been seen as cowards

They were sent to Gallipoli, New Guinea, Bougainville and Timor in age descending order.

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Reply #26 - Apr 25^th, 2017 at 12:32am

A few years ago I visited a town in WA that had an old church.
In that church they had a list of all the men who had died in WW1.
There were many young men on that list.

In WW1, there would have been fewer people in the town.
On average every home would have lost at least one son.
At least.

What a disaster.
there is no winner there.

there is no glory

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39522 Gender:	Re: Does ANZAC day glorify war? Reply #27 - Apr 25^th, 2017 at 12:34am This is why I go to the dawn service
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issuevoter Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9200 The Great State of Mind Gender:	Re: Does ANZAC day glorify war? Reply #28 - Apr 25^th, 2017 at 6:35am There is something very Irish about commemorating defeat.
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Reply #29 - Apr 25^th, 2017 at 7:28am

issuevoter wrote on Apr 25^th, 2017 at 6:35am:

There is something very Irish about commemorating defeat.

You just dont get it do you?

Its not about defeat or victory.
Its about sacrifice, its about bravery, its about men and women who fought to protect YOU and YOURS from invasion.

Its about Australian soldiers who gave their lives in the protection of their families.

Regardless of your opinion of war, these men fought for what the thought was right.
They did not start the war, they did not attack civillians.

On both sides men fought and died
On both sides many young men were lost
On both sides the futility of war is demonstrated.

We celebrate their bravery, theirvsacrifice and we fervently hope that others will learn that war is HELL

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