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Reply #15 - Apr 23^rd, 2017 at 2:56pm

Lots of people seem to be unconcerned about the attack on science. Science gives you your affluent lifestyle, science cures you when you are sick. Science guides the farmer and the sailor. Now neocon governments are attacking science, cutting budgets, sacking scientists even mid program.

Same neocon shambles is keeping you in ignorance running out a comms network congested at so many points: shoddy copper, under–provisioned node cabinets, high CVC charges meaning only 12/1 or 25/5 speedbands are worth the money, etc. Even putting people on the edges of capital cities on satellite! (meaning the satellites are congested too.)

Lots to protest.

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Re: The March For Science Funding Protest
Reply #16 - Apr 23^rd, 2017 at 3:10pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2017 at 2:45pm:

Ajax wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2017 at 1:59pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2017 at 1:50pm:

No, it is due to CO2 and methane, mainly. That is what the spectrometry has shown.

Is that the ground based spectrometry model made in Chile or are you talking about satellites....???

Sources would be good JV.........!!!

Both terrestrial and satellite. NASA has two lots of satellites studying this.

Yes and they have proved you wrong on all your assumptions.

Like for example CO2 is a well mixed gas...LOL...!!!

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Re: The March For Science Funding Protest
Reply #17 - Apr 23^rd, 2017 at 3:13pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2017 at 2:56pm:

Lots of people seem to be unconcerned about the attack on science. Science gives you your affluent lifestyle, science cures you when you are sick. Science guides the farmer and the sailor. Now neocon governments are attacking science, cutting budgets, sacking scientists even mid program.

And pseudo-science makes you poorer. Because money could be better spent elsewhere.

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Re: The March For Science Funding Protest
Reply #18 - Apr 23^rd, 2017 at 3:16pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2017 at 2:56pm:

Lots of people seem to be unconcerned about the attack on science. Science gives you your affluent lifestyle, science cures you when you are sick. Science guides the farmer and the sailor. Now neocon governments are attacking science, cutting budgets, sacking scientists even mid program.

Same neocon shambles is keeping you in ignorance running out a comms network congested at so many points: shoddy copper, under–provisioned node cabinets, high CVC charges meaning only 12/1 or 25/5 speedbands are worth the money, etc. Even putting people on the edges of capital cities on satellite! (meaning the satellites are congested too.)

Lots to protest.

The pseudo science that is Anthropogenic Global Warming is trying to undo all the affluent lifestyles that real science has given us.

Take away energy and you yourself will probably jump of the nearest bridge.....LOL

There is no science we humans have developed that cannot be put under the microscope for re-interpretation.

So when some scientist say sit down shut up and trust us because the science isn't up for debate, well what more do I need to say.

When there are people looking to improve on Newton and Einstein.

No science is sacrosanct, especially one that says we have to create a $7 trillion dollar carbon derivatives in order that we may be saved........... Shocked

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Re: The March For Science Funding Protest
Reply #19 - Apr 23^rd, 2017 at 3:17pm

Ajax wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2017 at 3:10pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2017 at 2:45pm:

Ajax wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2017 at 1:59pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2017 at 1:50pm:

No, it is due to CO2 and methane, mainly. That is what the spectrometry has shown.

Is that the ground based spectrometry model made in Chile or are you talking about satellites....???

Sources would be good JV.........!!!

Both terrestrial and satellite. NASA has two lots of satellites studying this.

Yes and they have proved you wrong on all your assumptions.

Like for example CO2 is a well mixed gas...LOL...!!!

It is well mixed enough, Ajax. There is a carbon cycle which operates at different times in the Northern and Southern hemispheres but even in Antarctica, even at Cape Grim in southern Tassie we see CO2 increasing in concentration.

I am afraid spectrometry shows that AGW is happening.

AGW is frightening to think about so denial is a common response but grown ups face facts no matter how unpleasant. But it seems neocon governments want to muzzle science. Why do you think that is, Ajax?

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Re: The March For Science Funding Protest
Reply #20 - Apr 23^rd, 2017 at 3:22pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2017 at 3:17pm:

It is well mixed enough, Ajax. There is a carbon cycle which operates at different times in the Northern and Southern hemispheres but even in Antarctica, even at Cape Grim in southern Tassie we see CO2 increasing in concentration.

I am afraid spectrometry shows that AGW is happening.

AGW is frightening to think about so denial is a common response but grown ups face facts no matter how unpleasant. But it seems neocon governments want to muzzle science. Why do you think that is, Ajax?

No its not................!!!!

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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: The March For Science Funding Protest Reply #21 - Apr 23^rd, 2017 at 3:25pm it isnt justy about climate science
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 43644 Gender:	Re: The March For Science Funding Protest Reply #22 - Apr 23^rd, 2017 at 4:38pm Indeed not. Newman, for example, closed labs studying tropical diseases, antibiotic resistant bacteria (TB is making a comeback) and so on. But climate science seems to have borne the brunt of the CSIRO cuts.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16428 Gender:	Re: The March For Science Funding Protest Reply #23 - Apr 23^rd, 2017 at 5:18pm Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2017 at 3:17pm: I am afraid spectrometry shows that AGW is happening. Where is your comparison?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16428 Gender:	Re: The March For Science Funding Protest Reply #24 - Apr 23^rd, 2017 at 5:20pm Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2017 at 3:17pm: AGW is frightening to think about Show us the proof. Just like the piece from the garudian this morning.
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Re: The March For Science Funding Protest
Reply #25 - Apr 24^th, 2017 at 1:39pm

The old MM is having the time of his life trying to have a stir over the Greenies Global Warming SCAM.

Unfortunately, because he wouldn't know a climate from a weather, he keeps painting himself into a corner.

It is water vapor that has the biggest effect on slowing heat transfer to and from the earth.

Now for something that even the climatically confused MM can understand, notice how it is cooler on a cloudy day because the water vapor in the clouds slows the transfer of heat to the earth.

The Greenies' mantra - if the day is cool it is the weather, if the day is hot it is climate heating.

No Global Warming for 19 years now. Climate change has been happening for centuries now and alternates between cooling and warming.

The Greenies want their Global Warming SCAM to go on because they are making quite a bit of money out of it.

Oh dear, now everybody knows the TRUTH!!!

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Reply #26 - Apr 24^th, 2017 at 5:58pm

juliar wrote on Apr 24^th, 2017 at 1:39pm:

The old MM is having the time of his life trying to have a stir over the Greenies Global Warming SCAM.

Unfortunately, because he wouldn't know a climate from a weather, he keeps painting himself into a corner.

It is water vapor that has the biggest effect on slowing heat transfer to and from the earth.

Now for something that even the climatically confused MM can understand, notice how it is cooler on a cloudy day because the water vapor in the clouds slows the transfer of heat to the earth.

The Greenies' mantra - if the day is cool it is the weather, if the day is hot it is climate heating.

No Global Warming for 19 years now. Climate change has been happening for centuries now and alternates between cooling and warming.

The Greenies want their Global Warming SCAM to go on because they are making quite a bit of money out of it.

Oh dear, now everybody knows the TRUTH!!!

The maroon YouLiar showing his ignorance and boneheaded stupidity.

Water vapor and the GHGs especially CO2 work to reduce the window whereby IR radiation can escape to earth. The more CO2 the more water vapor.

There has been no hiatus in AGW at all but trust Very Nice Person Juliar to try and pretend there was one.

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Re: The March For Science Funding Protest
Reply #27 - Apr 24^th, 2017 at 6:25pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 24^th, 2017 at 5:58pm:

Water vapor and the GHGs especially CO2 work to reduce the window whereby IR radiation can escape to earth.

Why they don't trap heat; it passes through with minimal delay.

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 24^th, 2017 at 5:58pm:

The more CO2 the more water vapor.

Really? What's the chemical formula?

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 24^th, 2017 at 5:58pm:

There has been no hiatus in AGW at all but trust Very Nice Person Juliar to try and pretend there was one.

Actually shown to be true, unless of course you are debunking AGW?

"The subtle origins of surface-warming hiatuses"

http://www.nature.com/nclimate/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nclimate3274.html

And in Nature magazine; so i must be true. Wink

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Re: The March For Science Funding Protest
Reply #28 - Apr 24^th, 2017 at 6:59pm

MM,

U have excelled yourself with your display of gross ignorance of climatic weather inconsequence. A little "knowledge" is a dangerous thing!!!!

No wonder this farcical fudge of climatic sludge has been removed from site into the rubbish bin.

No Global Warming for 19 years now.

Now to TOTALLY stonker the climatically confused MM with science - but the paw soal won't understand a word of it as it is too hard to comprehend.

As other normal intelligent people can readily see water vapor has by far the most effect on slowing radiiation both to and from the earth - hence a cloudy day is cool.

CO₂ is so small it has a negligible effect.

Now if the old MM wasn't so climatically confused by all that Greenie Propaganda Rubbish he is sucked in by he would be embarrassed at how silly all that rubbish he bungs on makes him look.

Now just to rub it in there has been many climate change cycles over the centuries.

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