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Apr 23rd, 2017 at 7:04am
 
March for Science: Canberra protest calls for consistency in research funding

Canberra Times
April 22, 2017

More than 1000 people converged on the lawns of Parliament House on Saturday calling for greater awareness and funding for science.   Smiley

The Canberra March for Science was one of more than 600 similar protests being held around the world in 54 countries, with marches also happening in Sydney and Melbourne.

The demonstrations, which co-incided with World Earth Day, were held in response to funding cuts to the sector in the United States by President Donald Trump.

Speaking at the rally, ANU professor and climate change expert Will Steffen said support for science funding was now needed more than ever in the face of scepticism about global warming.

"Australia has an important tradition of being a pillar of science in the southern hemisphere," he said.

"Now that is being eroded in support for our own scientists and eroded in pulling back from international science programs."   Sad

Following redundancies at the CSIRO and the abolition of the Climate Commission, Professor Steffen said, for many scientists, the stability of funding was diminishing.

"There is more and more pressure, even in the universities, for immediate outcomes for the research, in other words something that can be translated into some sort of economic benefit," he said.

Among the protesters was Margie Roberts, who is also a member of climate change advocacy group 350.org. She said there was an increasing trend of evidence-based research being rejected.   Sad

"Australia is getting into the same situation like with Trump in America: if you have the loudest voice, your truth comes across," she said.

Barbara Norman, an urban planning professor at the University of Canberra,

said while scientists were often not ones to attend protests regularly, it was important to demonstrate the importance of science.

"Often scientists are behind closed doors in research, and this shows how concerned they really are," she said.

A recent ANU poll of more than 1200 people about science funding showed 67 per cent believed science was best funded by the government rather than private business. Eight-two per cent believed politicians should rely on more expert scientific advice.

Lead researcher Professor Matthew Gray said the poll was a snapshot of Australian attitudes at a time when spending on research and development was falling to around 2.1 per cent of GDP, below the OECD average of 2.4 per cent of GDP.

"The figure for Australia in 2013 was 56.3 per cent compared to an OECD average of 81.1 per cent, and well below the United States (70.6 per cent), Japan (76.1 per cent) and Germany (67.2 per cent).

"The relatively low proportion of Australian R&D being undertaken by the private sector is one of the reasons for successive governments attempting to increase private sector R&D expenditure."
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Reply #1 - Apr 23rd, 2017 at 7:20am
 
Fact over fiction: Thousands rally to Melbourne's inaugural March for Science   Smiley

The Age
April 22, 2017

Doctor Sherry Mayo doesn't love speaking in front of people. The CSIRO research scientist, who specialises in X-ray science, is far more comfortable holed up in the lab.

But she gritted her teeth in the name of her profession on Saturday to address thousands of fellow scientists and their supporters as part of Melbourne's first March for Science.

Rally organisers estimate more than 3000 people rallied for more evidence and reason in Australia's political process and stable public funding for the sciences.   

Some of Australia's brightest minds lined up to speak to the crowd who gathered outside the State Library before marching to the steps of Parliament House.

Former science minister Barry Jones told those gathered that politics was being guided by "fake news", "alternative facts" – as coined by US President Donald Trump's senior adviser Kellyanne Conway – and a short electoral cycle.

"It's driven by opinions rather than knowledge. Politicians no longer ask if it's true, rather, whether it will sell. We choose the bits we're emotionally attached to and feel comfortable with," he said.

Mr Jones, now an honorary professor at Melbourne University and a fellow at the Australia Academy of Science, among others, called on those gathered to "harass" their local members of parliament about the importance of scientific method, rational thought and evidence to a functioning democracy.

Statistician Terry Speed, who heads the laboratory at the Walter and Eliza Hall Institute of Medical Research, spoke passionately about the need to dismiss the "small but very loud" group of people trying to reject scientific evidence, particularly on the topic of climate change.

Data scientist Alex Thomas, who was among the crowd, agrees.

"I'm here because I think we have to choose between stupidity and science," he said. "I think we're dealing with a very dangerous phenomena, that is the rejection of science. Although science isn't everything, it's the grounding and the underpinning of modern life and many of us wouldn't be here without it."

PhD graduate Tessa Charles, 29, said she came to fight for long-term public investment in scientific research. "I think it's grossly underfunded," she said. "I just finished a PhD in physics and am about to move overseas to work with European nuclear research organisation CERN because there's essentially nothing to apply for here."   Sad

The Melbourne rally was one of 10 held in Australian cities on Saturday, and among more than 500 satellite marches across the world.
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Reply #2 - Apr 23rd, 2017 at 7:57am
 
Phffft , who needs science when you have jebus  Roll Eyes
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Reply #3 - Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:11am
 
Who needs science when you have Tiny Abort Cheesy LOL
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whiteknight wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 7:04am:
Speaking at the rally, ANU professor and climate change expert Will Steffen said support for science funding was now needed more than ever in the face of scepticism about global warming.



Now all they have to do is produce the seminal paper showing the warming is unprecedented. Wink

whiteknight wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 7:04am:
Among the protesters was Margie Roberts, who is also a member of climate change advocacy group 350.org. She said there was an increasing trend of evidence-based research being rejected. 


Show us the evidence of increasing extreme weather. Of all the catastrophes that have been visited upon us that would previously have not occurred.
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Reply #5 - Apr 23rd, 2017 at 12:51pm
 
whiteknight wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 7:20am:
ut she gritted her teeth in the name of her profession on Saturday


Doesn't she know gritting your teeth is dentally unfit.

whiteknight wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 7:20am:
"It's driven by opinions rather than knowledge. Politicians no longer ask if it's true, rather, whether it will sell. We choose the bits we're emotionally attached to and feel comfortable with," he said.



Well that's true. Scary stories help keep getting governments elected. The biggest scary story wins.

whiteknight wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 7:20am:
Statistician Terry Speed, who heads the laboratory at the Walter and Eliza Hall Institute of Medical Research, spoke passionately about the need to dismiss the "small but very loud" group of people trying to reject scientific evidence, particularly on the topic of climate change.



So he believes statistics over science. We haven't seen any evidence of CAGW. But they wanto more spent on it in case it is true.

whiteknight wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 7:20am:
PhD graduate Tessa Charles, 29, said she came to fight for long-term public investment in scientific research. "I think it's grossly underfunded," she said. "I just finished a PhD in physics and am about to move overseas to work with European nuclear research organisation CERN because there's essentially nothing to apply for here."   Sad




Yes, another scary story. And one that won't get funding. Because it is too scarified.

"Climate policy has almost nothing to do anymore with environmental protection, says the German economist and IPCC official Ottmar Edenhofer. The next world climate summit in Cancun is actually an economy summit during which the distribution of the world’s resources will be negotiated." – Ottmar Edenhofer

"Morano asked how Pachauri and other U.N. officials in 2009 or 2010 could possibly know what a “science” report in 2014 would say.

His answer was direct.

“The U.N. IPCC is a political body masquerading as a ‘science’ body,’” he charged. “The U.N.’s ‘science’ conclusions are agreed to line by line for its Summary for Policy Makers with politicians, U.N. officials and delegates.”

/www.wnd.com/2014/04/u-n-climate-chief-admitted-political-agenda-of-science-report/#lU72FzLPoP8ejXZo.99


So much for climate science.
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Reply #6 - Apr 23rd, 2017 at 12:55pm
 
The sooner we get rid of global warming scientists that print bullsh!t to get government grants and keep their jobs, the better of we'll be.

Real science no problem lets get more grants out there.
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Reply #7 - Apr 23rd, 2017 at 1:19pm
 
No Ajax, deny it all you like but the globe is warming. The mechanism is known: the absorption and re-emission of infrared photons. More and more heat being trapped in the atmosphere and oceans. This has been observed with IR spectrometry both terrestrial and satellite.

628 months without a cool month:
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Reply #8 - Apr 23rd, 2017 at 1:28pm
 
The globe is warming JV just like it has in the past, where we have had cooling and warming phases.

You act as though this has never happened before.

But its not because of CO2, natural or manmade.

For a gas to have any significant effect on the atmosphere it must total at least 1% of the atmospheric volume.

CO2 is at the moment 0.04%....... Cheesy


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No, it is due to CO2 and methane, mainly. That is what the spectrometry has shown.
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JM trots out a reconstructed set of anomalies and calls it data, again. Wink
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Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 1:50pm:
No, it is due to CO2 and methane, mainly. That is what the spectrometry has shown.



Where is the control data? We do need to compare, don't we?
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Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 1:50pm:
No, it is due to CO2 and methane, mainly. That is what the spectrometry has shown.


Is that the ground based spectrometry model made in Chile or are you talking about satellites....???

Sources would be good JV.........!!!
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Ajax wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 1:59pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 1:50pm:
No, it is due to CO2 and methane, mainly. That is what the spectrometry has shown.


Is that the ground based spectrometry model made in Chile or are you talking about satellites....???

Sources would be good JV.........!!!

Both terrestrial and satellite. NASA has two lots of satellites studying this.
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