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Re: Australian Values
Reply #60 - Apr 23rd, 2017 at 6:50pm
 
cods wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 6:45pm:
Valkie wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 8:23am:
cods wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 9:44pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 7:20pm:
" What is the difference between what a girl in a bikini wears and a woman in a hijab, except the amount of cloth they have on their bodies?"

Sometimes you worry me, Mr Ross... the difference is that no Christian preacher even begins to suggest that a woman wearing hijab deserves to be raped, under the assumption that leaving raw meat underneath a tea towel is an incitement to the cat..... or that wearing the hijab is somehow immoral and contemptuous.

You would do well to move on from purely physical comparisons and into the realm of accepting and discussing what some on one side or the other say and feel and promote about such issues.

I'm beginning to feel, in my very fair and even-handed heart, that this entire series of issues would be best solved by importing no more Middle Eastern Muslims and restricting ourselves to moderates from places such as Malaysia - most of whom do not attack other people's rights to own their own lives.



hahahahah grap... how about all us Christians move out and let our moderate Muslims take over... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

it would be good to know what they would do with this wonderful country.. Roll Eyes


Thats easy
Just look at every other country that they have taken over.

Brutality
Murder
War
Ethnic/ religious cleansing
Deprivation of liberty
Destitution

And eventually they will start running from the horror and head to another unsuspecting country to destroy it.

There is no question that this is the end result.
There is plenty of evidence, just open your eyes.

This CULT is hell on earth



well no need to go that far  Brian will be devastated.. Roll Eyes


Cods, why will I be devastated?  Valkie's posts make no sense.  They do not describe the Islam or the Muslims I know personally.  They are the narrow-minded viewpoint of an Islamophobic bigot.   Roll Eyes
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Re: Australian Values
Reply #61 - Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:23pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 6:49pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 6:45pm:
piss off traitor.. '

neither you or your Cult Islamic mates like our western values and actively try to destroy them...

so piss off...


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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Mechie, why do you bother?  All you do is troll and use ad hominem.  Tsk, tsk.  Your narrow mind has closed itself to any counter-arguments that might be used against you.   You are the mirror image of that you claim to oppose.  Roll Eyes



You bore me with your same old tired islamophelia comments.
You bore me troll
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I HAVE A DREAM
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A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

SUCH A WONDERFUL DREAM
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Reply #62 - Apr 24th, 2017 at 12:01am
 
Valkie wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:23pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 6:49pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 6:45pm:
piss off traitor.. '

neither you or your Cult Islamic mates like our western values and actively try to destroy them...

so piss off...


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KPmXCf84Ozo/UWGrVhH6nyI/AAAAAAAAAd4/0Xoj4kE1eKg/s72-c/...

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Mechie, why do you bother?  All you do is troll and use ad hominem.  Tsk, tsk.  Your narrow mind has closed itself to any counter-arguments that might be used against you.   You are the mirror image of that you claim to oppose.  Roll Eyes


You bore me with your same old tired islamophelia comments.
You bore me troll


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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Valkie, why do you bother?  All you do is troll and use ad hominem.  Tsk, tsk.  Easy to stop me, Valkie.  Just stop spreading your Islamophobia/Racism/Xenophobia.    Roll Eyes
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Reply #63 - Apr 24th, 2017 at 10:24am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 6:50pm:
cods wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 6:45pm:
Valkie wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 8:23am:
cods wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 9:44pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 7:20pm:
" What is the difference between what a girl in a bikini wears and a woman in a hijab, except the amount of cloth they have on their bodies?"

Sometimes you worry me, Mr Ross... the difference is that no Christian preacher even begins to suggest that a woman wearing hijab deserves to be raped, under the assumption that leaving raw meat underneath a tea towel is an incitement to the cat..... or that wearing the hijab is somehow immoral and contemptuous.

You would do well to move on from purely physical comparisons and into the realm of accepting and discussing what some on one side or the other say and feel and promote about such issues.

I'm beginning to feel, in my very fair and even-handed heart, that this entire series of issues would be best solved by importing no more Middle Eastern Muslims and restricting ourselves to moderates from places such as Malaysia - most of whom do not attack other people's rights to own their own lives.



hahahahah grap... how about all us Christians move out and let our moderate Muslims take over... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

it would be good to know what they would do with this wonderful country.. Roll Eyes


Thats easy
Just look at every other country that they have taken over.

Brutality
Murder
War
Ethnic/ religious cleansing
Deprivation of liberty
Destitution

And eventually they will start running from the horror and head to another unsuspecting country to destroy it.

There is no question that this is the end result.
There is plenty of evidence, just open your eyes.

This CULT is hell on earth



well no need to go that far  Brian will be devastated.. Roll Eyes


Cods, why will I be devastated?  Valkie's posts make no sense.  They do not describe the Islam or the Muslims I know personally.  They are the narrow-minded viewpoint of an Islamophobic bigot.   Roll Eyes



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Re: Australian Values
Reply #64 - Apr 24th, 2017 at 11:38am
 
Valkie wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:23pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 6:49pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 6:45pm:
piss off traitor.. '

neither you or your Cult Islamic mates like our western values and actively try to destroy them...

so piss off...


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KPmXCf84Ozo/UWGrVhH6nyI/AAAAAAAAAd4/0Xoj4kE1eKg/s72-c/...

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Mechie, why do you bother?  All you do is troll and use ad hominem.  Tsk, tsk.  Your narrow mind has closed itself to any counter-arguments that might be used against you.   You are the mirror image of that you claim to oppose.  Roll Eyes



You bore me with your same old tired islamophelia comments.
You bore me troll


Well there are no other way to put it Valkie.  Going through uni at the moment, it is very evident that our fellow muslim Australians are not to of destroy our lives.   The only other people that shares your point of view in reverse are ISIS. 

And like Brian, I also have many many muslim friends.  There is one who just started a GP clinic with her husband who is also a doctor.   My parents worked with nearly a dozen or so muslim specialists - orthopaedic surgeons, general surgeons, psychiatrist, GP etc.  There are also muslim officers and soldiers in the Australian defence force, the army, the navy and the airforce.   I mean, yes, you hear on news about gangs of Muslim youth, but they are not representative of the entire Muslim population.  Vast majority of the people have the same issues like us - e.g. kids, education, mortgage, work, and probably wanted the same thing for their kids and future.   

When the Apex gang went on rampage in Fed Square last time, a few days later, many youth were handed in to the police.  And do you know who did that?  Their parents.

And here you are, rambling like a mad man about them taking over, committing genocide.   No one is taking you seriously. 
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Re: Australian Values
Reply #65 - Apr 24th, 2017 at 2:28pm
 
Even the outspoken Bob Katter only said Middle Eastern Muslims .......  I see no issue with a Paki doctor who keeps to the straight and narrow.... or any other who keeps to the straight and narrow for that matter...

The problem with the MEslims is working out which does and which does not... but then the 'does not' kind seem to be filling our prisons....
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Reply #66 - Apr 24th, 2017 at 2:48pm
 
tickleandrose wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 11:38am:
There are also muslim officers and soldiers in the Australian defence force, the army, the navy and the airforce.   



There are about 100 mussies in the ADF

There are nearly 20 in the NSW Supermax prison for terrorist related charges

There are nearly 200 suspected as fighting for terror organisations like ISIS


For the amount of effort needed to stop them losing their sh1t and the minor reward from them being here, it isn't really worth it.


One of the great values loved by all Australians, is don't be a d1ckhead pain in the arse, and they are failing monumentally at this.


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Reply #67 - Apr 24th, 2017 at 3:00pm
 
Lebanese, Syrian and Palestinian Sunni are where most of the issues are coming from. If we didn't have these people in Australia we probably wouldn't be having any issues.
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Reply #68 - Apr 24th, 2017 at 3:26pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 2:48pm:
tickleandrose wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 11:38am:
There are also muslim officers and soldiers in the Australian defence force, the army, the navy and the airforce.   



There are about 100 mussies in the ADF

There are nearly 20 in the NSW Supermax prison for terrorist related charges

There are nearly 200 suspected as fighting for terror organisations like ISIS


For the amount of effort needed to stop them losing their sh1t and the minor reward from them being here, it isn't really worth it.


One of the great values loved by all Australians, is don't be a d1ckhead pain in the arse, and they are failing monumentally at this.




Well first of all, people like you never gave them a chance to be accepted into the society.  Rather, spreading rumors and lies, about what average Mulsim do.  In fact, you even have someone like Yadda quoting endlessly selected passages and superimpose it on reality.   And in an environment hostile to Islam, you still have 100 personelle in ADF in 2015, then, I think they are doing quiet well.  Mind you, the ADF is not made up just serving members, there are other supporting professions out there. 

But, give it more time.  And you will see not only more muslims, but also other minorities, women and as well as member of other sexuality in ADF. 

There are also growing number of second generation ADF members who are born in to Muslim families, even with a Muslim sounding name.  However, do not identify themselves as muslim.
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Reply #69 - Apr 24th, 2017 at 4:40pm
 
cods wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 10:24am:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 6:50pm:
Cods, why will I be devastated?  Valkie's posts make no sense.  They do not describe the Islam or the Muslims I know personally.  They are the narrow-minded viewpoint of an Islamophobic bigot.   Roll Eyes



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Touche',   attempting to imply I am bigoted towards bigots, Cods.    Smiley

However, why should I tolerate intolerance?    Well, actually I do.  What I don't tolerate is endless, mindless parading of ignorance around the net.   It merely demonstrates how uneducated Valkie actually is.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #70 - Apr 24th, 2017 at 4:51pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 2:48pm:
tickleandrose wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 11:38am:
There are also muslim officers and soldiers in the Australian defence force, the army, the navy and the airforce.   


There are about 100 mussies in the ADF


And your source for that number is, BigOl64?

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There are nearly 20 in the NSW Supermax prison for terrorist related charges


And your source for that number is, BigOl64?

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There are nearly 200 suspected as fighting for terror organisations like ISIS


And your source for that number is, BigOl64?

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For the amount of effort needed to stop them losing their sh1t and the minor reward from them being here, it isn't really worth it.

One of the great values loved by all Australians, is don't be a d1ckhead pain in the arse, and they are failing monumentally at this.


Really?  The only people IMHO who are being "dickhead pain in the arses" are the Islamophobes.  If you stopped proclaiming that all Muslims are Terrorists or similar, all the time, you'd stop being a "pain in the arse".  Get the hint,  BigOl64?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


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Reply #71 - Apr 24th, 2017 at 5:18pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 2:28pm:
Even the outspoken Bob Katter only said Middle Eastern Muslims .......  I see no issue with a Paki doctor who keeps to the straight and narrow.... or any other who keeps to the straight and narrow for that matter...

The problem with the MEslims is working out which does and which does not... but then the 'does not' kind seem to be filling our prisons....


Grap, you are just muddying the waters, which by the way, is a favourite tactic of politicians when it comes to Islam. The hope is that by including all people from predominantly Muzlim coutries, blame can be permanently avoid. How do you know you Pak doctor adheres to tenets of Islam. I once asked a woman from Lebanon what she thought of the situation in the Middle East. She replied, "I don't give a sh++ about the bloody Middle East."
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Reply #72 - Apr 24th, 2017 at 5:19pm
 
I have been where Islam rules.

I do not want that brutality, barbarity and primitive violent system in my country.

Like you, I know ex- muzzos.
They are no longer muslims because they managed to escape the CULT.

It is nothing but a pseudo political CULT full of violent narcissistic Imrans.

The two or three you know fit into one of three catagories
1st They are deceives hoping that they will be accepted until there are enough of them to take over, violently.
2nd They are liars who are not true muzzos, just pretending to be for some reason.
3rd  They are cowards, too cowardly to leave the CULT because of their family, their CULT leaders and others of the CULT.

They are playing you for a sucker.
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I HAVE A DREAM
A WONDERFUL, PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL DREAM.
A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

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Reply #73 - Apr 24th, 2017 at 5:23pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 4:40pm:
cods wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 10:24am:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 6:50pm:
Cods, why will I be devastated?  Valkie's posts make no sense.  They do not describe the Islam or the Muslims I know personally.  They are the narrow-minded viewpoint of an Islamophobic bigot.   Roll Eyes



bigot
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"don't let a few small-minded bigots destroy the good image of the city"
synonyms:      dogmatist, partisan, sectarian, prejudiced person; More


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Touche',   attempting to imply I am bigoted towards bigots, Cods.    Smiley

However, why should I tolerate intolerance?    Well, actually I do.  What I don't tolerate is endless, mindless parading of ignorance around the net.   It merely demonstrates how uneducated Valkie actually is.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes



well its the same with you..

your ignorance with your bored posts....is just that rude and ignorant.. but you dont see it  because you think they are wrong and you are right..


thats a person who is blinkered and intolerant.. and you have said it all

WHY SHOULD I.... Roll Eyes


you want people to see your point of view  and be tolerant of your point of view... yet you do not think they should be given the same !!!

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.. we think differently brian its what makes the world go round..

some people are really pig headed  I agree.....but someone being pig ignorant.. doesnt change anything does it?

at the end of the day .. those who fear what is happening have every right to fear!! its up to you to calm them down that is if you are really concerned about the way they think??? otherwise you are just showing your bigotry Roll Eyes Roll Eyes 

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Reply #74 - Apr 24th, 2017 at 5:39pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 4:51pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 2:48pm:
tickleandrose wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 11:38am:
There are also muslim officers and soldiers in the Australian defence force, the army, the navy and the airforce.   


There are about 100 mussies in the ADF


And your source for that number is, BigOl64?
[url]The Assistant Minister for Defence, Dr of Divine Miffy.[=http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/australian-defence-force-to-get-its-first-muslim-imam-20150302-13t18l.html/url]


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There are nearly 20 in the NSW Supermax prison for terrorist related charges


And your source for that number is, BigOl64?
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There are nearly 200 suspected as fighting for terror organisations like ISIS


And your source for that number is, BigOl64?

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For the amount of effort needed to stop them losing their sh1t and the minor reward from them being here, it isn't really worth it.

One of the great values loved by all Australians, is don't be a d1ckhead pain in the arse, and they are failing monumentally at this.


Really?  The only people IMHO who are being "dickhead pain in the arses" are the Islamophobes.  If you stopped proclaiming that all Muslims are Terrorists or similar, all the time, you'd stop being a "pain in the arse".  Get the hint,  BigOl64?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes




It is not Islamophobia to say that Muslims, acting in the name of Islam, are vastly over-represented among terrorists. And that's just the active criminal. There are many more Muslim despisers of the West who ARE living in the West on benefits.


It is not Islamophobia to be critial of Muslim and Islam even if they do not transgress the law.

Brian, you are throwing 'Islamophobia' around like a two year old oik throwing shite around his playpen.


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