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Reply #75 - Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:44pm
 
mothra wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:40pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:37pm:
Imagine how many aborigines go into Don Dale thinking that white mans rules don't apply. Many aboriginal parents teach their kids that "this is our land". Plus getting taught to hate  "pigs" because mum and dad have been nicked a bunch of times. Those guards must cop hell.


Yet the guard who said he took the time to build a rapport with those kids said he was never spat on or abused.

You keep ignoring that point, Hammer.
So ones mans comments (true or untrue) make it fact Mothballs? You are easily convinced. It tells you what you want to hear I suppose. I wonder what all the other 100+ guards (past and present) have to say
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Reply #76 - Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:44pm
 
Hammer the point is if you treat kids as animals you will get animals.
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Reply #77 - Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:46pm
 
oh dear wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:41pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:37pm:
Imagine how many aborigines go into Don Dale thinking that white mans rules don't apply. Many aboriginal parents teach their kids that "this is our land". Plus getting taught to hate  "pigs" because mum and dad have been nicked a bunch of times. Those guards must cop hell.


The guard who treated these kids with decency and respect had no trouble what does that tell you?
One guards account doesn't make it fact.
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Re: The Don Dale spithood kid
Reply #78 - Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:46pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:44pm:
mothra wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:40pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:37pm:
Imagine how many aborigines go into Don Dale thinking that white mans rules don't apply. Many aboriginal parents teach their kids that "this is our land". Plus getting taught to hate  "pigs" because mum and dad have been nicked a bunch of times. Those guards must cop hell.


Yet the guard who said he took the time to build a rapport with those kids said he was never spat on or abused.

You keep ignoring that point, Hammer.
So ones mans comments (true or untrue) make it fact Mothballs? You are easily convinced. It tells you what you want to hear I suppose. I wonder what all the other 100+ guards (past and present) have to say



Did you read his testimony, Hammer?

He said the culture of Don Dale changed when they started hiring "muscle". Coincidentally, that is when the trouble started.

Does that fact not strike you as interesting?
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Reply #79 - Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:47pm
 
oh dear wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:44pm:
Hammer the point is if you treat kids as animals you will get animals.
what about if the kids are already animals when they get locked up?
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Reply #80 - Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:48pm
 
mothra wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:46pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:44pm:
mothra wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:40pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:37pm:
Imagine how many aborigines go into Don Dale thinking that white mans rules don't apply. Many aboriginal parents teach their kids that "this is our land". Plus getting taught to hate  "pigs" because mum and dad have been nicked a bunch of times. Those guards must cop hell.


Yet the guard who said he took the time to build a rapport with those kids said he was never spat on or abused.

You keep ignoring that point, Hammer.
So ones mans comments (true or untrue) make it fact Mothballs? You are easily convinced. It tells you what you want to hear I suppose. I wonder what all the other 100+ guards (past and present) have to say



Did you read his testimony, Hammer?

He said the culture of Don Dale changed when they started hiring "muscle". Coincidentally, that is when the trouble started.

Does that fact not strike you as interesting?
So all the trouble started in a jail when they brought in a tougher type of guard. Do you really believe that?
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Reply #81 - Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:50pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:37pm:
Imagine how many aborigines go into Don Dale thinking that white mans rules don't apply. Many aboriginal parents teach their kids that "this is our land". Plus getting taught to hate  "pigs" because mum and dad have been nicked a bunch of times. Those guards must cop hell.



hammer that is NOT the boys fault....would you punish a child because of the way he was brought up??>.

may as well punish his brother while your at it..

what the children need is discipline  fair dinkum discipline they need to know right from wrong  and where the line is drawn...

you take a child from the outback who has had none of that..  no rules or regulations and expect him to fall in line with what whiteman says and does...you are mistaken matey you really are....he resents whitey before you get even started....there has to be a better way.....and we should all want that... we wont find the right way with beating up kids.. that for sure.,



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Re: The Don Dale spithood kid
Reply #82 - Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:50pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:48pm:
mothra wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:46pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:44pm:
mothra wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:40pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:37pm:
Imagine how many aborigines go into Don Dale thinking that white mans rules don't apply. Many aboriginal parents teach their kids that "this is our land". Plus getting taught to hate  "pigs" because mum and dad have been nicked a bunch of times. Those guards must cop hell.


Yet the guard who said he took the time to build a rapport with those kids said he was never spat on or abused.

You keep ignoring that point, Hammer.
So ones mans comments (true or untrue) make it fact Mothballs? You are easily convinced. It tells you what you want to hear I suppose. I wonder what all the other 100+ guards (past and present) have to say



Did you read his testimony, Hammer?

He said the culture of Don Dale changed when they started hiring "muscle". Coincidentally, that is when the trouble started.

Does that fact not strike you as interesting?
So all the trouble started in a jail when they brought in a tougher type of guard. Do you really believe that?



Did you read the article, Hammer? Have you been following the reports from the Royal Commission?

Or are you too committed to your stance that these kids are sub-human and deserve to be persecuted?
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Reply #83 - Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:51pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:47pm:
oh dear wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:44pm:
Hammer the point is if you treat kids as animals you will get animals.
what about if the kids are already animals when they get locked up?



at a young age most kids will act like animals if you allow them too...come on hammer I bet you werent the perfect child.. but were you treated like this??????
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Re: The Don Dale spithood kid
Reply #84 - Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:51pm
 
cods wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:50pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:37pm:
Imagine how many aborigines go into Don Dale thinking that white mans rules don't apply. Many aboriginal parents teach their kids that "this is our land". Plus getting taught to hate  "pigs" because mum and dad have been nicked a bunch of times. Those guards must cop hell.



hammer that is NOT the boys fault....would you punish a child because of the way he was brought up??>.

may as well punish his brother while your at it..

what the children need is discipline  fair dinkum discipline they need to know right from wrong  and where the line is drawn...

you take a child from the outback who has had none of that..  no rules or regulations and expect him to fall in line with what whiteman says and does...you are mistaken matey you really are....he resents whitey before you get even started....there has to be a better way.....and we should all want that... we wont find the right way with beating up kids.. that for sure.,



If they hate you because of your skin when they arrive then how are you going to teach them anything?
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Reply #85 - Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:52pm
 
Any compensation that these "children" are claiming should be passed on to the victims of the their criminal behaviour.

Funny to think this whole thing started because people were outraged to see the image of a person being strapped into a restraint chair, with a spithood on.
If they had left him to his own devices and he'd hanged himself would the outrage at his treatment be more or less?
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Re: The Don Dale spithood kid
Reply #86 - Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:53pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:51pm:
cods wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:50pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:37pm:
Imagine how many aborigines go into Don Dale thinking that white mans rules don't apply. Many aboriginal parents teach their kids that "this is our land". Plus getting taught to hate  "pigs" because mum and dad have been nicked a bunch of times. Those guards must cop hell.



hammer that is NOT the boys fault....would you punish a child because of the way he was brought up??>.

may as well punish his brother while your at it..

what the children need is discipline  fair dinkum discipline they need to know right from wrong  and where the line is drawn...

you take a child from the outback who has had none of that..  no rules or regulations and expect him to fall in line with what whiteman says and does...you are mistaken matey you really are....he resents whitey before you get even started....there has to be a better way.....and we should all want that... we wont find the right way with beating up kids.. that for sure.,



If they hate you because of your skin when they arrive then how are you going to teach them anything?


I think you've got that the wrong wy round.

It's you who hates them for their skin.
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Re: The Don Dale spithood kid
Reply #87 - Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:53pm
 
cods wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:51pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:47pm:
oh dear wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:44pm:
Hammer the point is if you treat kids as animals you will get animals.
what about if the kids are already animals when they get locked up?



at a young age most kids will act like animals if you allow them too...come on hammer I bet you werent the perfect child.. but were you treated like this??????
I have a clean record sheet actually. I grew up in the crapiest suburb in western Sydney but I never bashed people and s hat in the classroom.
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Re: The Don Dale spithood kid
Reply #88 - Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:54pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:53pm:
cods wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:51pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:47pm:
oh dear wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:44pm:
Hammer the point is if you treat kids as animals you will get animals.
what about if the kids are already animals when they get locked up?



at a young age most kids will act like animals if you allow them too...come on hammer I bet you werent the perfect child.. but were you treated like this??????
I have a clean record sheet actually. I grew up in the crapiest suburb in western Sydney but I never bashed people and s hat in the classroom.



No. You grew up thinking violence and racism is not only ok, it's hilarious.
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Reply #89 - Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:56pm
 
mothra wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:53pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:51pm:
cods wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:50pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 2:37pm:
Imagine how many aborigines go into Don Dale thinking that white mans rules don't apply. Many aboriginal parents teach their kids that "this is our land". Plus getting taught to hate  "pigs" because mum and dad have been nicked a bunch of times. Those guards must cop hell.



hammer that is NOT the boys fault....would you punish a child because of the way he was brought up??>.

may as well punish his brother while your at it..

what the children need is discipline  fair dinkum discipline they need to know right from wrong  and where the line is drawn...

you take a child from the outback who has had none of that..  no rules or regulations and expect him to fall in line with what whiteman says and does...you are mistaken matey you really are....he resents whitey before you get even started....there has to be a better way.....and we should all want that... we wont find the right way with beating up kids.. that for sure.,



If they hate you because of your skin when they arrive then how are you going to teach them anything?


I think you've got that the wrong wy round.

It's you who hates them for their skin.
Wrong. I couldn't give a crap what skin their colour is. Aborigines go from white with blue eyes to jet black with caveman jaws so what colour are they? I don't hate aborigines. I just have little respect for loads of them because they are poorly behaved bludgers with bad attitudes.
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