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Reply #45 - Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:01pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 12:52pm:
I'll say it again. I do not feel sorry for criminals. Particularly violent offenders. They deserve having their asses kicked.



and round in circles we go  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


John Smith wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 12:27pm:
no ones asking you to feel sorry for them. Why is it you think not abusing them is the same as feeling sorry for them?

You can not feel sorry for them and still not abuse them you know.

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Reply #46 - Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:02pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 12:58pm:
Now you imagine this- everyday you go to work , getting verbally and physically abused day in day out. Spat at, punched, kicked, have s hit thrown at you, called a pig C Year after year. You don't know how that would feel. You need to think about it more. How would you react to that??


if you can't handle it find another job.
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Reply #47 - Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:05pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 12:58pm:
cods wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 12:47pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 12:36pm:
cods wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 12:32pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 12:24pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 12:06pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 12:04pm:
Maybe if they show the prisons officers respect they'd get treated better. Spitting at them while calling them pig c*&ts won't  help.


if they respected others they probably wouldn't have ended up in a jail in the first place you doofus.
So we are meant to fell sorry for them el doucho? Undecided



hammer how can these boys learn RESPECT....seriously ???...if someone did that to me.. I would HATE for the rest of my life.. Angry
It is jail you know cods. It isn't Club Med. They are being punished for serious crimes.



mate they are kids its not JAIL....it should be a school of learning not fear and dread....

come on!!!

   we have just had two boys 15/16 arrested for killing a man with a knife. for doing his job....they also stabbed and bashed two other men on the same night...

god only knows what record these boys have....all I know is whatever punishment they have received   in the past....[probably nothing] hasnt worked......

and the same with those in Don Dale. they will all come out with HATE in their hearts...

I cant believe you would settle for that.... Sad Sad

and god knows what sort of upbringing they have had or not had.......

you do know when your hands are tied behind your back spitting is about all you can do.
This is what you don't understand cods. You get up, have a cup of tea,  flick the teli on, get on here. Maybe go out the back and feed the birds.

Now you imagine this- everyday you go to work , getting verbally and physically abused day in day out. Spat at, punched, kicked, have s hit thrown at you, called a pig C Year after year. You don't know how that would feel. You need to think about it more. How would you react to that??



Agaian, for the slow leareners:

Youth Justice Officer Ian Johns began working at Don Dale in 2005.

He said he had a good rapport with many of the young detainees because he took the time to get to know them, and as a result he was never spat on or attacked.

In a statement to the commission he said he believed "a majority of the workers I have known are very passionate and care about the welfare of the kids" in detention.

However he said there was a shift in culture at Don Dale in 2014 when "the Northern Territory Government started hiring 'muscle.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-28/calls-for-change-at-don-dale-were-ignored-...
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Reply #48 - Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:08pm
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:02pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 12:58pm:
Now you imagine this- everyday you go to work , getting verbally and physically abused day in day out. Spat at, punched, kicked, have s hit thrown at you, called a pig C Year after year. You don't know how that would feel. You need to think about it more. How would you react to that??


if you can't handle it find another job.


The verbal abuse should just go straight over their head , but they're allowed and required to take action to prevent physical assault.

Being spat on is assault.
Go spit on the next cop you see and tell us what happens.


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Reply #49 - Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:09pm
 
Gordon wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:08pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:02pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 12:58pm:
Now you imagine this- everyday you go to work , getting verbally and physically abused day in day out. Spat at, punched, kicked, have s hit thrown at you, called a pig C Year after year. You don't know how that would feel. You need to think about it more. How would you react to that??


if you can't handle it find another job.


The verbal abuse should just go straight over their head , but they're allowed and required to take action to prevent physical assault.

Being spat on is assault.
Go spit on the next cop you see and tell us what happens.





He said he had a good rapport with many of the young detainees because he took the time to get to know them, and as a result he was never spat on or attacked.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-28/calls-for-change-at-don-dale-were-ignored-...
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Reply #50 - Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:16pm
 
mothra wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:09pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:08pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:02pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 12:58pm:
Now you imagine this- everyday you go to work , getting verbally and physically abused day in day out. Spat at, punched, kicked, have s hit thrown at you, called a pig C Year after year. You don't know how that would feel. You need to think about it more. How would you react to that??


if you can't handle it find another job.


The verbal abuse should just go straight over their head , but they're allowed and required to take action to prevent physical assault.

Being spat on is assault.
Go spit on the next cop you see and tell us what happens.





He said he had a good rapport with many of the young detainees because he took the time to get to know them, and as a result he was never spat on or attacked.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-28/calls-for-change-at-don-dale-were-ignored-...


Could it be this particular child was an exceptionally violent and problematic individual?

Dylan Voller a difficult child who assaulted students before Don Dale jailing, commission told

As a primary school student, Dylan Voller broke windows, defecated in a classroom, assaulted other students, spat on a teacher and tied socks around his neck, threatening self-harm, the NT Royal Commission into Youth Detention has heard.

A portrait was painted of a child with serious behavioural difficulties

Several years later, after Mr Voller was suspended for punching another student in the head the day after he returned from a three-day suspension for assaulting three other students in the playground, his school in Alice Springs decided it could no longer keep teaching him because of safety concerns for other students and staff.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-20/dylan-voller-a-very-difficult-student-nt-r...
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Reply #51 - Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:19pm
 
If the prisoners at Don Dale were mostly white the do-gooders on here wouldn't care about this topic. But because they're  abos it falls into one of their pet trendy causes. Roll Eyes
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Reply #52 - Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:22pm
 
Gordon wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:16pm:
mothra wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:09pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:08pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:02pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 12:58pm:
Now you imagine this- everyday you go to work , getting verbally and physically abused day in day out. Spat at, punched, kicked, have s hit thrown at you, called a pig C Year after year. You don't know how that would feel. You need to think about it more. How would you react to that??


if you can't handle it find another job.


The verbal abuse should just go straight over their head , but they're allowed and required to take action to prevent physical assault.

Being spat on is assault.
Go spit on the next cop you see and tell us what happens.





He said he had a good rapport with many of the young detainees because he took the time to get to know them, and as a result he was never spat on or attacked.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-28/calls-for-change-at-don-dale-were-ignored-...


Could it be this particular child was an exceptionally violent and problematic individual?

Dylan Voller a difficult child who assaulted students before Don Dale jailing, commission told

As a primary school student, Dylan Voller broke windows, defecated in a classroom, assaulted other students, spat on a teacher and tied socks around his neck, threatening self-harm, the NT Royal Commission into Youth Detention has heard.

A portrait was painted of a child with serious behavioural difficulties

Several years later, after Mr Voller was suspended for punching another student in the head the day after he returned from a three-day suspension for assaulting three other students in the playground, his school in Alice Springs decided it could no longer keep teaching him because of safety concerns for other students and staff.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-20/dylan-voller-a-very-difficult-student-nt-r...
Oh look at Cods, el doucho and Mothballs poor little aboriginal victim. ALL HE NEEDS IS TO BE TREATED RIGHT!!!!! Cry Cry
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Reply #53 - Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:23pm
 
Gordon wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:16pm:
mothra wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:09pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:08pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:02pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 12:58pm:
Now you imagine this- everyday you go to work , getting verbally and physically abused day in day out. Spat at, punched, kicked, have s hit thrown at you, called a pig C Year after year. You don't know how that would feel. You need to think about it more. How would you react to that??


if you can't handle it find another job.


The verbal abuse should just go straight over their head , but they're allowed and required to take action to prevent physical assault.

Being spat on is assault.
Go spit on the next cop you see and tell us what happens.





He said he had a good rapport with many of the young detainees because he took the time to get to know them, and as a result he was never spat on or attacked.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-28/calls-for-change-at-don-dale-were-ignored-...


Could it be this particular child was an exceptionally violent and problematic individual?

Dylan Voller a difficult child who assaulted students before Don Dale jailing, commission told

As a primary school student, Dylan Voller broke windows, defecated in a classroom, assaulted other students, spat on a teacher and tied socks around his neck, threatening self-harm, the NT Royal Commission into Youth Detention has heard.

A portrait was painted of a child with serious behavioural difficulties

Several years later, after Mr Voller was suspended for punching another student in the head the day after he returned from a three-day suspension for assaulting three other students in the playground, his school in Alice Springs decided it could no longer keep teaching him because of safety concerns for other students and staff.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-20/dylan-voller-a-very-difficult-student-nt-r...



I'll go with what the guard said, if it's all the same to you, Gordy. He had worked at Don Dale since 2005. It is most likely he crossed paths with Dylan Voller, wouldn't you think?

He said he was never spat on or abused because he took the time to build a rapport.

He also said the culture of the place changed when the Department started hiring "muscle".

If you treat people like human beings, chances are they'll act like them. if you abuse them and treat them like animals, don't be surprised if they behave  like them.

As every parent, school teacher, youth detention guard or anyone working with children should know.
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Reply #54 - Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:25pm
 
mothra wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:23pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:16pm:
mothra wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:09pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:08pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:02pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 12:58pm:
Now you imagine this- everyday you go to work , getting verbally and physically abused day in day out. Spat at, punched, kicked, have s hit thrown at you, called a pig C Year after year. You don't know how that would feel. You need to think about it more. How would you react to that??


if you can't handle it find another job.


The verbal abuse should just go straight over their head , but they're allowed and required to take action to prevent physical assault.

Being spat on is assault.
Go spit on the next cop you see and tell us what happens.





He said he had a good rapport with many of the young detainees because he took the time to get to know them, and as a result he was never spat on or attacked.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-28/calls-for-change-at-don-dale-were-ignored-...


Could it be this particular child was an exceptionally violent and problematic individual?

Dylan Voller a difficult child who assaulted students before Don Dale jailing, commission told

As a primary school student, Dylan Voller broke windows, defecated in a classroom, assaulted other students, spat on a teacher and tied socks around his neck, threatening self-harm, the NT Royal Commission into Youth Detention has heard.

A portrait was painted of a child with serious behavioural difficulties

Several years later, after Mr Voller was suspended for punching another student in the head the day after he returned from a three-day suspension for assaulting three other students in the playground, his school in Alice Springs decided it could no longer keep teaching him because of safety concerns for other students and staff.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-20/dylan-voller-a-very-difficult-student-nt-r...



I'll go with what the guard said, if it's all the same to you, Gordy. He had worked at Don Dale since 2005. It is most likely he crossed paths with Dylan Voller, wouldn't you think?

He said he was never spat on or abused because he took the time to build a rapport.

He also said the culture of the place changed when the Department started hiring "muscle".

If you treat people like human beings, chances are they'll act like them. if you abuse them and treat them like animals, don't be surprised if they behave  like them.

As every parent, school teacher, youth detention guard or anyone working with children should know.


So this kids behaviour isn't in question. Righteooo
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Reply #55 - Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:27pm
 
Gordon wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:25pm:
mothra wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:23pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:16pm:
mothra wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:09pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:08pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:02pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 12:58pm:
Now you imagine this- everyday you go to work , getting verbally and physically abused day in day out. Spat at, punched, kicked, have s hit thrown at you, called a pig C Year after year. You don't know how that would feel. You need to think about it more. How would you react to that??


if you can't handle it find another job.


The verbal abuse should just go straight over their head , but they're allowed and required to take action to prevent physical assault.

Being spat on is assault.
Go spit on the next cop you see and tell us what happens.





He said he had a good rapport with many of the young detainees because he took the time to get to know them, and as a result he was never spat on or attacked.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-28/calls-for-change-at-don-dale-were-ignored-...


Could it be this particular child was an exceptionally violent and problematic individual?

Dylan Voller a difficult child who assaulted students before Don Dale jailing, commission told

As a primary school student, Dylan Voller broke windows, defecated in a classroom, assaulted other students, spat on a teacher and tied socks around his neck, threatening self-harm, the NT Royal Commission into Youth Detention has heard.

A portrait was painted of a child with serious behavioural difficulties

Several years later, after Mr Voller was suspended for punching another student in the head the day after he returned from a three-day suspension for assaulting three other students in the playground, his school in Alice Springs decided it could no longer keep teaching him because of safety concerns for other students and staff.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-20/dylan-voller-a-very-difficult-student-nt-r...



I'll go with what the guard said, if it's all the same to you, Gordy. He had worked at Don Dale since 2005. It is most likely he crossed paths with Dylan Voller, wouldn't you think?

He said he was never spat on or abused because he took the time to build a rapport.

He also said the culture of the place changed when the Department started hiring "muscle".

If you treat people like human beings, chances are they'll act like them. if you abuse them and treat them like animals, don't be surprised if they behave  like them.

As every parent, school teacher, youth detention guard or anyone working with children should know.


So this kids behaviour isn't in question. Righteooo



Perhaps you'd like to point out where i said that?
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Reply #56 - Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:27pm
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 11:58am:
Gordon wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 11:17am:
You're wrong.

A prison guard being assaulted is an occupational hazard but they're not there to cop it like a bunching bag.

The spithood was them dealing with a feral person.

If you're angry about that, examine everything that led up to him being so feral.


i don't give a rats about the spit hood. Spit hoods serve a purpose and as long as they are used appropriately, I have no problem with them.

Pretending his abuse was limited to s spit hood shows how poor your argument is. What did the spit hood have to do with him being thrown across the room? with guards asking them to suck their dicks? with hitting them? leaving them confined to small room with no water for extended periods of time? and a myriad of other abuses that were noted at the time


Or was that just one specific individual?
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Reply #57 - Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:36pm
 
cods wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 12:31pm:
Gnads wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 11:09am:
cods wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 9:36am:
John Smith wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 9:30am:
Can't believe the idiots trying to justify this

He's a kid, and he's in jail. Did you really think that they don't put alter boys in jails? Of course he's a trouble maker and a little sh1t.
That doesn't excuse abusing him. If you can't handle a kid in that job without abusing them, you need to find another job



its bullying john no more or less..

I am bigger and there are more of us..

and you are only one..

I can and I will do this.. Angry

shameful but the blame lies with the lack of training..and skills given to those in the job...

no different to those Yanks and their muslim prisoners..

we should all carry the shame for this...same as the abuse in childrens homes...

someone turns a blind eye to it allowing it to just go on and on.. Angry Angry Angry


Bullying my arze.

It's nothing to do with kiddy fiddlers or masochistic nuns & priests abusing children in orphanages/homes ....

you wouldn't have a clue what training these officers have.  Roll Eyes






thats your opinion.....you dont think BIGGER and STRONGER takes a part in how a child is treated..

perhaps you should take a look at the stat for children that are killed because of BIGGER ADULTS>. Angry Angry

some one even thinks a kids should show respect  what sort of statement is that>?>.,

not only do you have to earn respect   it has to be taught.. Angry Angry..

kids lead b y example....do you seriously think this is a good example to give out of control kids..????

do you really...

is this the way you would deal with one of your own who was disobedient?? 

use strong arm.. because you are BIGGER???... 

and maybe have a support group of 5 or 6.... Angry Angry Angry

unbelievable... btw I did read when it first became news.. that these officers are not trained to deal with these boys in a way that is effectual...... Sad Sad

if you think this will turn out decent adults.. boy its a good job you dont work in that industry,.


Yes mostly in their family.

As for them turning out decent adults ....  as teenagers I'd say they were well on their way to that never ever happening.........

and that had nothing to do with the Don Dale officers....

maybe it should be pulled right back to who made the decision to put them in there in the first place.

We have several generations of young people who have no respect for other or themselves & especially to those in authority i.e. the Police. No responsibility for actions & believing they are untouchable ... they know their rights.

And I can see here the reason why that has happened.
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Reply #58 - Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:42pm
 
mothra wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:27pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:25pm:
mothra wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:23pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:16pm:
mothra wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:09pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:08pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:02pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 12:58pm:
Now you imagine this- everyday you go to work , getting verbally and physically abused day in day out. Spat at, punched, kicked, have s hit thrown at you, called a pig C Year after year. You don't know how that would feel. You need to think about it more. How would you react to that??


if you can't handle it find another job.


The verbal abuse should just go straight over their head , but they're allowed and required to take action to prevent physical assault.

Being spat on is assault.
Go spit on the next cop you see and tell us what happens.





He said he had a good rapport with many of the young detainees because he took the time to get to know them, and as a result he was never spat on or attacked.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-28/calls-for-change-at-don-dale-were-ignored-...


Could it be this particular child was an exceptionally violent and problematic individual?

Dylan Voller a difficult child who assaulted students before Don Dale jailing, commission told

As a primary school student, Dylan Voller broke windows, defecated in a classroom, assaulted other students, spat on a teacher and tied socks around his neck, threatening self-harm, the NT Royal Commission into Youth Detention has heard.

A portrait was painted of a child with serious behavioural difficulties

Several years later, after Mr Voller was suspended for punching another student in the head the day after he returned from a three-day suspension for assaulting three other students in the playground, his school in Alice Springs decided it could no longer keep teaching him because of safety concerns for other students and staff.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-20/dylan-voller-a-very-difficult-student-nt-r...



I'll go with what the guard said, if it's all the same to you, Gordy. He had worked at Don Dale since 2005. It is most likely he crossed paths with Dylan Voller, wouldn't you think?

He said he was never spat on or abused because he took the time to build a rapport.

He also said the culture of the place changed when the Department started hiring "muscle".

If you treat people like human beings, chances are they'll act like them. if you abuse them and treat them like animals, don't be surprised if they behave  like them.

As every parent, school teacher, youth detention guard or anyone working with children should know.


So this kids behaviour isn't in question. Righteooo



Perhaps you'd like to point out where i said that?


You just disregarded where I posted accounts of his behaviour prior to Don Dale.

Lets see if we can agree on something.

Don Dale is a facility in need of changes/training etc.

That particular kid is an extremely violent and problematic individual who would cause trouble regardless.
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Reply #59 - Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:46pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:22pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:16pm:
mothra wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:09pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:08pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:02pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 12:58pm:
Now you imagine this- everyday you go to work , getting verbally and physically abused day in day out. Spat at, punched, kicked, have s hit thrown at you, called a pig C Year after year. You don't know how that would feel. You need to think about it more. How would you react to that??


if you can't handle it find another job.


The verbal abuse should just go straight over their head , but they're allowed and required to take action to prevent physical assault.

Being spat on is assault.
Go spit on the next cop you see and tell us what happens.





He said he had a good rapport with many of the young detainees because he took the time to get to know them, and as a result he was never spat on or attacked.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-28/calls-for-change-at-don-dale-were-ignored-...


Could it be this particular child was an exceptionally violent and problematic individual?

Dylan Voller a difficult child who assaulted students before Don Dale jailing, commission told

As a primary school student, Dylan Voller broke windows, defecated in a classroom, assaulted other students, spat on a teacher and tied socks around his neck, threatening self-harm, the NT Royal Commission into Youth Detention has heard.

A portrait was painted of a child with serious behavioural difficulties

Several years later, after Mr Voller was suspended for punching another student in the head the day after he returned from a three-day suspension for assaulting three other students in the playground, his school in Alice Springs decided it could no longer keep teaching him because of safety concerns for other students and staff.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-20/dylan-voller-a-very-difficult-student-nt-r...
Oh look at Cods, el doucho and Mothballs poor little aboriginal victim. ALL HE NEEDS IS TO BE TREATED RIGHT!!!!! Cry Cry



ahhhhhhhhhhh here we go   name calling hammer shame on you..

so if this boy was your son...

what would you have done to him.??...

I know someone who has an autistic   [waiting to be assessed].. child hes 6  and is a real handful.. very very naughty.. so far because he is only little and slight..he can be controlled just dont take him to the supermarket... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes.. but when hes about 9 or 10.. he wont be so easy......how do you know this boy isnt autistic ... which means its not their fault what they do... Sad Sad Sad

this is not a normal child doing normal things....it just isnt...somewhere the medical dept has let him down..

I am sorry you find that making excuses for him... b ecause I am not.. I am trying to understand how and why children are treated like they have been at this Don Dale place...

it sounds like Lord of the Rings after they have grown up.. Sad Sad
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