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Question: Should the global mods be more strict or less strict on suspending people for personal insults directed at other forum users?

more strict    
  16 (30.8%)
less strict    
  14 (26.9%)
undecided    
  3 (5.8%)
do it differently    
  11 (21.2%)
status quo    
  8 (15.4%)




Total votes: 52
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Reply #15 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 7:45pm
 
Aussie wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 7:39pm:
Vic wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 7:30pm:
There should be a vote option for " keep the status quo"


Fair enough.  But.....what is it?  What is the current Policy, Vic?



I am merely suggesting that the poll does not cover all bases.  The addition of keeping the status quo rounds it off.   I don't understand the purpose of it in any case as it will be personality and "what happened to me" driven.  To make the poll valid, FD may like to expand on his thought processes and other material that drive a GM decision.
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Reply #16 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 7:48pm
 
Vic wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 7:45pm:
Aussie wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 7:39pm:
Vic wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 7:30pm:
There should be a vote option for " keep the status quo"


Fair enough.  But.....what is it?  What is the current Policy, Vic?



I am merely suggesting that the poll does not cover all bases.  The addition of keeping the status quo rounds it off.   I don't understand the purpose of it in any case as it will be personality and "what happened to me" driven.  To make the poll valid, FD may like to expand on his thought processes and other material that drive a GM decision.    


Agree 100%.  It is high time we all understood what he expected of you GMods.
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Reply #17 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 8:08pm
 
I expect nothing from the Gmods.

The purpose of the poll is to get feedback that is not dominated by the most vocal.
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Reply #18 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 8:16pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 8:08pm:
I expect nothing from the Gmods.

The purpose of the poll is to get feedback that is not dominated by the most vocal.


So.....how can Members respond credibly to your Poll, if you have zero expectation of the GMods.....who.....presumably you have appointed to do something, Effendi.  What is that something?
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Reply #19 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 8:33pm
 
Aussie wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:46am:
I voted "Do it differently."  Other than in the most outrageous event which would be obvious, (real names, porn etc) I reckon there ought be public warning first  (with copy sent via PM,) and then a ban if the person persists, with public explanation left (could start a Thread in Relationships for that) as to why and length of ban.

You could also use at least one more GMod to help Setanta who seems to be the only GMod regularly here (Thursday night through to Sunday night.)  None of the others are pulling their weight.


I agree with a warning first, but only if the offender is persistent with his abusive name-calling.

I ticked the box for 'More Strict' - but only with those who are in the habit of almost always including a personal insult in every post.

I'm not surprised the 'Less Strict' mob is way ahead of the rest.  Grin The Usual Suspects otherwise known as the 'Gang of Four'.
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Reply #20 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 8:36pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 8:33pm:
Aussie wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:46am:
I voted "Do it differently."  Other than in the most outrageous event which would be obvious, (real names, porn etc) I reckon there ought be public warning first  (with copy sent via PM,) and then a ban if the person persists, with public explanation left (could start a Thread in Relationships for that) as to why and length of ban.

You could also use at least one more GMod to help Setanta who seems to be the only GMod regularly here (Thursday night through to Sunday night.)  None of the others are pulling their weight.


I agree with a warning first, but only if the offender is persistent with his abusive name-calling.


Fair enough.  Before it gets all formal, the GMods can always send an informal request via PM which I often do in Relationships.  If that is ignored, then make it formal in public.
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Reply #21 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 8:42pm
 
Aussie wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 8:36pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 8:33pm:
Aussie wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:46am:
I voted "Do it differently."  Other than in the most outrageous event which would be obvious, (real names, porn etc) I reckon there ought be public warning first  (with copy sent via PM,) and then a ban if the person persists, with public explanation left (could start a Thread in Relationships for that) as to why and length of ban.

You could also use at least one more GMod to help Setanta who seems to be the only GMod regularly here (Thursday night through to Sunday night.)  None of the others are pulling their weight.


I agree with a warning first, but only if the offender is persistent with his abusive name-calling.


Fair enough.  Before it gets all formal, the GMods can always send an informal request via PM which I often do in Relationships.  If that is ignored, then make it formal in public.


That sounds okay to me. I don't agree with jumping on people for making the occasional "f-ck you" remark or calling someone 'idiot' and 'stupid' from time to time. It's the persistent and routine insulting and abusing in almost every post that should be acted upon.
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Reply #22 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 8:47pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 1:56pm:
How about more equitable and just. Freediver's redneck mates get more latitude than others.

Denizens like Yadda should be banned for being obnoxious hate propagators and propagandists.


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How about Ayaan Hirsi Ali? Would you be happy to have her as a member here? You won't be happy until OzPolitic resembles the ABC's Q&A with a stacked panel and a stacked audience all mouthing Leftwing platitudes.

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Reply #23 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:40pm
 
Seems that some people need some heavenly assistance in deciding who should be banned.  Grin

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Reply #24 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:58pm
 
Personal abuse and vandalising thread
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Reply #25 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:58pm
 
Sorry, I have been a "bit busy" recently, so not much posting from me.

That said, there are some Rules which should be kept in mind, when posting here or just doing things in general and if anyone steps over the line, then there MAY be consequences.

In terms of site Rules, the following are some of those which should be kept in mind -
1) Personal criticism
Do not post personal criticism of other members.
Do not respond to personal criticism.
2) Privacy
Do not post personal information about other members.
3) Pornography
Do not post pornography.
4) Racism
Discussion of racism and race related political issues is encouraged. However, politically correct language should be used when making criticism of racial policies or groups.
5) Swearing
We have a swear word filter activated.
Please do not try to bypass this filter by misspelling swear words.
6) Signatures and avatars
No external links or URLs are allowed in signatures.

Suspensions
If you break the rules, you will be suspended. Warnings are rarely given.

Remember that children also view and use these boards & recognition of that, of the standard site Rules & of normal "Discussion Manners", should always be born in mind!

That said, different Global Moderators will have "somewhat" different views and their reactions MAY WELL VARY FROM TIME TO TIME & that is to be expected. Even the site owners reactions MAY change, from time to time, on some issues.

However, the site reactions to the standard Rules & to normal "Discussion Manners" appears reasonable on most occasions & I for one would prefer to "ALLOW THE STATUS QUO TO CONTINUE, at the moment!


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Reply #26 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:10pm
 
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However, the site reactions to the standard Rules & to normal "Discussion Manners" appears reasonable on most occasions & I for one would prefer to "ALLOW THE STATUS QUO TO CONTINUE, at the moment!


There are so many questions I could address to you......but I'll just ask this one for now.

Why did you spit your GMod dummy?  Was the job too hard?  The Rules not clear enough?

Huh

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Reply #27 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:24pm
 
Aussie wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:10pm:
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However, the site reactions to the standard Rules & to normal "Discussion Manners" appears reasonable on most occasions & I for one would prefer to "ALLOW THE STATUS QUO TO CONTINUE, at the moment!


There are so many questions I could address to you......but I'll just ask this one for now.

Why did you spit your GMod dummy?  Was the job too hard?  The Rules not clear enough?


Huh

Cheers & Happy Easter to you as well!!!

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Reply #28 - Apr 18th, 2017 at 12:14am
 
perceptions_now wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:58pm:
Sorry, I have been a "bit busy" recently, so not much posting from me.

That said, there are some Rules which should be kept in mind, when posting hr the line, then there MAY be consequences.

In terms of site Rules, the following are some of those which should be kept in mind -
1) Personal criticism
Do not post personal criticism of other members.
Do not respond to personal criticism.




The forum advice appears to be ignore the trolls.

Those who vandalise threads with personal abuse while making no contribution to thread topic should be banned.
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Reply #29 - Apr 18th, 2017 at 12:48am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 12:14am:
The forum advice appears to be ignore the trolls.


Probably the best thing to do. If you call them out for the liars that they are and post proof of this by pointing out that they are misquoting what you said, you post will be deleted, and their insults will be allowed to remain. Better to ignore them than stir them up.
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