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Question: Should the global mods be more strict or less strict on suspending people for personal insults directed at other forum users?

more strict    
  16 (30.8%)
less strict    
  14 (26.9%)
undecided    
  3 (5.8%)
do it differently    
  11 (21.2%)
status quo    
  8 (15.4%)




Total votes: 52
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Should the global mods be more strict or less strict on suspending people for personal insults directed at other forum users?
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Reply #1 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:00am
 
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Reply #2 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:46am
 
I voted "Do it differently."  Other than in the most outrageous event which would be obvious, (real names, porn etc) I reckon there ought be public warning first  (with copy sent via PM,) and then a ban if the person persists, with public explanation left (could start a Thread in Relationships for that) as to why and length of ban.

You could also use at least one more GMod to help Setanta who seems to be the only GMod regularly here (Thursday night through to Sunday night.)  None of the others are pulling their weight.
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Reply #3 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:10am
 
For myself......

This is a public forum.
IMO, its purpose [in being here] is to allow people to express and exchange ideas and opinions on differing topical subjects.
IMO, persons who do not contribute to the open debate on any issue should be warned and then..... ?

What am i going on about ?
Someone(1) can present or refer to an incident that has occurred, and invite discussion and debate.
But some of the people(2) who appear here, in this forum, clearly are trying to derail any discussion and debate on said topic or issue.
Though reasonable arguments and evidences are presented, some(2) will simply denigrate any person(1) who presents a proposition, with which they(2) strongly disagree.

They(2) refuse to engage in 'argument'.  [....though they will sometimes utter absurd and wholly unsupported counter statements]
They(2) often refuse to try and mount a counter argument, to the argument and evidences already presented.
Rather, they(2) will simply engage in verbally denigrating the character of any person(1) who agrees or argues in support of a proposition, with which they(2) disagree.


If those people(2) are simply going to try to disrupt the flow of the debate here, with personal abuse and with absurd and 'distracting' and wholly unsupported statements, then i'd like to see some sanction against them.

If those people(2) want to make a statement, of their opinion/views, i'm happy for them to do that, to the best of their ability.

But if they are going to simply 'interject' in the debate with absurd,  and 'distracting' and wholly unsupported statements, then.......... what can be done ?





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Reply #4 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 12:25pm
 
Generally I feel the bannings I have had a role in have been reasonably fair.

The most frustrating thing about being banned is not knowing for "how long" and "what for" in some cases. With that in mind I think another board (Banning Notifications) needs adding that is visible to all but can only be posted on by Gmods.

Mods would use this to advise bannings and unbannings and reasons why.

A link to the actually offence(s) could be posted when the ban is applied.

This would also show the minions that action is being taken and also that the gmod is being fair and not targeting individuals or types of posts that he/she disagrees with.


Ordinary members would not be able to post on the new board to prevent it turning into a dogs breakfast of arguments. (ie. No correspondence would be entered into)

Warnings could also be put on this board.
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Reply #5 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 1:41pm
 
Come on you lot!

Has the cat got your tongues?

You all have plenty to say about this on other occasions!

Let rip!  Wink
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Reply #6 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 1:56pm
 
How about more equitable and just. Freediver's redneck mates get more latitude than others.

Denizens like Yadda should be banned for being obnoxious hate propagators and propagandists.
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Reply #7 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 2:07pm
 
Forum is for debating topics.

Personal abuse has no place.

Having said that I've been banned for calling some people names, in the end we're just people and sometimes we do get out of control when we debate topics we're passionate about............ Huh
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Reply #8 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 2:20pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 1:56pm:
How about more equitable and just. Freediver's redneck mates get more latitude than others.

Denizens like Yadda should be banned for being obnoxious hate propagators and propagandists.




If i make an accusation against a moslem, or against a group of moslems, i should be able to substantiate my opinion with evidences and/or reason.

And i believe that i can.



IN A FORUM DEDICATED TO FREE AN OPEN DEBATE;

It is up to people such are yourself, to present facts and arguments and evidences, which prove that i am an unreasonable person, and that i am making an unreasonable or false argument.

Anyone at all can come to this online forum, and they can view the posts,      and they can read the arguments which i [or anyone else] make, and they can read any counter-arguments which people like yourself care to make.

And, those visitors who read our posts can make up their own mind, as to the validity of the arguments which have been presented here.


That, is the point, of free and open debate.

Free and open debate is a contest of ideas.       ------    where both truth or falsehood [on any particular matter or topic] can exposed to general scrutiny - BY ALL PERSONS.


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Reply #9 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 4:05pm
 
Well I think being provoked to retaliation ought to be considered in any court of law.
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Reply #10 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 4:12pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 4:05pm:
Well I think being provoked to retaliation ought to be considered in any court of law.


Thats my excuse with a certain.....err lady... err woman ... err women on here and elsewhere!

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Reply #11 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 4:25pm
 
Redmond Neck wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 4:12pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 4:05pm:
Well I think being provoked to retaliation ought to be considered in any court of law.


Thats my excuse with a certain.....err lady... err woman ... err women on here and elsewhere!

Grin



What an "amusing" male person you are, BS.

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Reply #12 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 4:47pm
 
Neferti wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 4:25pm:
Redmond Neck wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 4:12pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 4:05pm:
Well I think being provoked to retaliation ought to be considered in any court of law.


Thats my excuse with a certain.....err lady... err woman ... err women on here and elsewhere!

Grin



What an "amusing" male person you are, BS.

Do you "control" your wife? 


No need to she has a brain!  Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #13 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 7:30pm
 
There should be a vote option for " keep the status quo"
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Reply #14 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 7:39pm
 
Vic wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 7:30pm:
There should be a vote option for " keep the status quo"


Fair enough.  But.....what is it?  What is the current Policy, Vic?
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