Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 19^th, 2017 at 10:20pm:


And yet I am criticised for pointing out that the Islamophobes are well, Islamophobes in their posts here, Grappler.  I call out that the "L'empereur n'a pas de vêtements!"  And they all get upset.   

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Except the innocent Muslims get immediately branded with the same label as the Islamists, Grappler.  It's like suggesting that all Australians are racists.   This is demonstrably untrue.  Just as all Muslims are Terrorists is demonstrably untrue.

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I have nothing against discussing of the issues, Grappler as long as the discussion is undertake in a sane, respectful manner, not an Islamophobic hate-filled diatribe of the kind we see here all the time from the likes of Yadda, Moses, Valkie and others.   If they toned down their language and actually discussed the issues rather than telling us what they see as wrong with all Muslims....   

I agree that the issues should not be hidden but any discussion of them must be proportionate to what the actually problems are.   

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What is a "significant number", Grappler?   We have 2% of the entire population which profess to be Muslim.  What part of that 2% want to marry 14 year old girls?   What proportion want to join violent gangs?  What proportion want to behead unbelievers?   Is it 1% of that 2% or is it 100%?   According to Yadda, all Muslims are dangerous.  According to Moses, all Muslims are Terrorists.  According to other Islamophobes, the Muslims are about to take over our society and impose Sh'ria law on us.   Seriously?   

Some Muslims take their religion very seriously.  Some Muslims want those things without a doubt.  What seems to be forgotten is that the overwhelming majority of Muslims came here to get away from conflict, to build new lives, like all immigrants.   However, they still want to have their religion and I see nothing wrong with that.   Just as I don't see anything wrong with Christians/Hindus/Shinto/Taoists/etc. keeping their religion when they migrate to Australia.

Some Muslims, just as some Christians/Hindus/Shinto/Taoists/Jews/etc. do require attention from the authorities because of their religion.   Most don't though, now do they?   I have Muslim neighbours.  I have Christian neighbours.  I have Hindu neighbours.  We all get along fine.   No one wants to chop anybody's heads off and no one wants to marry anybody's 14 year old daughter.  Time the Islamophobes got out there and actually met their neighbours and talked to them.    

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 20^th, 2017 at 12:48am:


Highlight 1. Incorrect..... it's a big cost & concern to meat exporters .... they pay it in Australia & they pay it into Indonesia. Adding to the cost to produce never sees that cost disappear ...... that's why there are price rises for the consumer.

Highlight2. What a complete load of rubbish Bryan. "They starve"? 

Muslims have lived in Australia for 150 years & they didn't starve & there was no such thing as Halal Certified food.

What's more there was no such thing as Halal Certification in any Muslim countries either .... funny how it's only a modern day thing (1980) & applied only in western/non Muslim countries.

They make their own food Halal. What's more there is so much food stuff that is being made Halal ... i.e. companies are paying the certification fees for products that do not require Halal certification as it is naturally Halal (allowable) without it.

Like milk & dairy, fruit & vegies, cereals, water, chocolate (as demonstrated by Waleed Aly).

Halal Certification (unlike Kosher) has gone way beyond food products. And Jews don't starve either if food is not labelled "Kosher".

It's being applied to everything imaginable - household cleaning chemicals, womens sanitary items, etc. etc.

Because companies fear backlash(Cadburys is one) from the non muslim majority they don't label their products Halal ..... that's deceit.(Taqiyya)

And when it's not labelled Halal Certified how do Muslims know if it's allowable to eat?

It used to be solely in the confines of ritual slaughter & the home preparation of food (like Kosher)

but it's now a money making racket.

There are actually very few foods that are Haram (forbidden) the rest are according to Allah (God) naturally Halal (allowable).

So why have Muslims or should I say true Muslims been brainwashed to the extent that they don't know what is HALAL or HARAM & require a label on a product to know whether or not they can eat it?

Because it's all about making money off the Kuffar.

But no matter how hard I try

I just cant get halal pork or bacon

Its a rort I tell you, a rort.

Unforgiven wrote on Apr 20^th, 2017 at 5:53pm:


That was a good one, I may use that one day.

But you really need to post more than insulting one liners.

Perhaps if you tried real hard and actually complemented someone, you might make at least one friend ....................one day?

freediver wrote on Apr 17^th, 2017 at 9:53am:


You're not wrong!

am I paying for the HALAL LABEL?>.

I dont care if they have their own shops.. to cater for their weird beliefs.. but leave me out of it.

The halal certification scheme for abattoirs was a scam run by foreign Muslim governments. They set up regional monopolies with the express goal of charging as much as possible - even to the point where some abattoirs could not afford to pay and had to forgo the export market. It was costing them hundreds of thousands of dollars per year. The money, like the millions of dollars stolen from Islamic schools, disappeared into a black hole.