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Is racism encouraged?
Apr 16th, 2017 at 7:48pm
 

For some reason, I'm banned from 'Feedback'.

So, this is from Mr Kangaroo:

"I've read the forum rules and I notice that many on here don't bother to follow them, especially when it comes to being racist when the topic isn't even about race.

"Is there any enforcement of the rules or are they merely a formality in running a forum?

"Is it safe to assume that those who moderate or even own the forum condone that kind of activity which is why it goes unmoderated?

"Thanks."


I believe he has hit the nail on the head in the highlighted part.
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Reply #1 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 7:52pm
 
This place is much better without you.
When's your next hospital stay?
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Reply #2 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 7:54pm
 
Gordon wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 7:52pm:
This place is much better without you.
When's your next hospital stay?


This place is nothing without me.

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Reply #3 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 7:58pm
 
you are well loved Greg.. everyone here loves you  Smiley
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Reply #4 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:02pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 7:54pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 7:52pm:
This place is much better without you.
When's your next hospital stay?


This place is nothing without me.



You've become very bitter of late.
Did you get a poor health report?
The same thing that kept you away from Napa last year?
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Reply #5 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:04pm
 
pm Greg and ask him personal questions like that Gordon.
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Reply #6 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:21pm
 
Gordon wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:02pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 7:54pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 7:52pm:
This place is much better without you.
When's your next hospital stay?


This place is nothing without me.



You've become very bitter of late.
Did you get a poor health report?
The same thing that kept you away from Napa last year?


"bitter"?

How so?

All I'm doing is exposing the scum of the Earth.

Why are you taking this so personally?

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Reply #7 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:21pm
 
Is this really a topic, or just another egocentric whinge?
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Reply #8 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:23pm
 
issuevoter wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:21pm:
Is this really a topic, or just another egocentric whinge?


Have you not noticed that they all end this way?
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Reply #9 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:25pm
 
issuevoter wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:21pm:
Is this really a topic, or just another egocentric whinge?


Yes.

Are you really a disgusting racist?

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Reply #10 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:51pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:25pm:
issuevoter wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:21pm:
Is this really a topic, or just another egocentric whinge?


Yes.

Are you really a disgusting racist?




If all the races are indistinguishable, how do you tell them apart, turd?
Either there are racial differences -or there are no races, in which case it is impossible to be a racist.

Explain, turd.




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Reply #11 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:58pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 7:48pm:
For some reason, I'm banned from 'Feedback'.

So, this is from Mr Kangaroo:

"I've read the forum rules and I notice that many on here don't bother to follow them, especially when it comes to being racist when the topic isn't even about race.

"Is there any enforcement of the rules or are they merely a formality in running a forum?

"Is it safe to assume that those who moderate or even own the forum condone that kind of activity which is why it goes unmoderated?

"Thanks."


I believe he has hit the nail on the head in the highlighted part.


I'm not here to be the thought police.
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Reply #12 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:09pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:51pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:25pm:
issuevoter wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:21pm:
Is this really a topic, or just another egocentric whinge?


Yes.

Are you really a disgusting racist?




If all the races are indistinguishable, how do you tell them apart, turd?
Either there are racial differences -or there are no races, in which case it is impossible to be a racist.

Explain, turd.






Which part of not being a 'thought police' is required to understand that obvious breach of Effendi's Rules?

Really, those Rules ought to be ditched to reflect what does go on here.
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Reply #13 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:17pm
 
Aussie wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:09pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:51pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:25pm:
issuevoter wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:21pm:
Is this really a topic, or just another egocentric whinge?


Yes.

Are you really a disgusting racist?




If all the races are indistinguishable, how do you tell them apart, turd?
Either there are racial differences -or there are no races, in which case it is impossible to be a racist.

Explain, turd.






Which part of not being a 'thought police' is required to understand that obvious breach of Effendi's Rules?

Really, those Rules ought to be ditched to reflect what does go on here.


That's not he topic but personally there is so much name calling that I can only be bothered in what I consider the worst cases I see like when a thread turns into a tit for tat abuse. I don't have the time for much else.

People could all start acting like adults and police themselves a little.
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Reply #14 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:21pm
 
Aussie wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:09pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:51pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:25pm:
issuevoter wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:21pm:
Is this really a topic, or just another egocentric whinge?


Yes.

Are you really a disgusting racist?




If all the races are indistinguishable, how do you tell them apart, turd?
Either there are racial differences -or there are no races, in which case it is impossible to be a racist.

Explain, turd.






Which part of not being a 'thought police' is required to understand that obvious breach of Effendi's Rules?

Really, those Rules ought to be ditched to reflect what does go on here.


The mods will never ban someone something like Frank.

They don't have the balls.

Much easier to ban me: someone who tells the truth.

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Reply #15 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:22pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:51pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:25pm:
issuevoter wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:21pm:
Is this really a topic, or just another egocentric whinge?


Yes.

Are you really a disgusting racist?




If all the races are indistinguishable, how do you tell them apart, turd?
Either there are racial differences -or there are no races, in which case it is impossible to be a racist.

Explain, turd.






Woah!

Back up there, little girl.

Who made that claim?

Not me, that's for sure.
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Reply #16 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:27pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:21pm:
Aussie wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:09pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:51pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:25pm:
issuevoter wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:21pm:
Is this really a topic, or just another egocentric whinge?


Yes.

Are you really a disgusting racist?




If all the races are indistinguishable, how do you tell them apart, turd?
Either there are racial differences -or there are no races, in which case it is impossible to be a racist.

Explain, turd.






Which part of not being a 'thought police' is required to understand that obvious breach of Effendi's Rules?

Really, those Rules ought to be ditched to reflect what does go on here.


The mods will never ban someone something like Frank.

They don't have the balls.

Much easier to ban me: someone who tells the truth.



Are you suggesting we are bullies and you're a weakling and easy target? Or is it like it really is and we are not thought police?

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Reply #17 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:30pm
 
Setanta wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:17pm:
Aussie wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:09pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:51pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:25pm:
issuevoter wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:21pm:
Is this really a topic, or just another egocentric whinge?


Yes.

Are you really a disgusting racist?




If all the races are indistinguishable, how do you tell them apart, turd?
Either there are racial differences -or there are no races, in which case it is impossible to be a racist.

Explain, turd.






Which part of not being a 'thought police' is required to understand that obvious breach of Effendi's Rules?

Really, those Rules ought to be ditched to reflect what does go on here.


That's not he topic but personally there is so much name calling that I can only be bothered in what I consider the worst cases I see like when a thread turns into a tit for tat abuse. I don't have the time for much else.

People could all start acting like adults and police themselves a little.


You are stuck between a rock and a hard place, I agree.  Members don't put you there......the Rules of Effendi do.

Credit where it is due, and I will always give it.  At least you are here and interact with Members between Thursday night and Monday night.  The rest of the GMods ought be booted......
now
........as being always AWOL.  There are willing alternatives.

You do a good job Setanta with the pathetic tools you have been handed.  The rest of them are not, as GMods, worth a pinch of goat schit on a windy hill.

And, as I have said a zillion times in public and in private.....I would never accept a GMod job here.
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Reply #18 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:31pm
 
Setanta wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:21pm:
Aussie wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:09pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:51pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:25pm:
issuevoter wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:21pm:
Is this really a topic, or just another egocentric whinge?


Yes.

Are you really a disgusting racist?




If all the races are indistinguishable, how do you tell them apart, turd?
Either there are racial differences -or there are no races, in which case it is impossible to be a racist.

Explain, turd.






Which part of not being a 'thought police' is required to understand that obvious breach of Effendi's Rules?

Really, those Rules ought to be ditched to reflect what does go on here.


The mods will never ban someone something like Frank.

They don't have the balls.

Much easier to ban me: someone who tells the truth.



Are you suggesting we are bullies and you're a weakling and easy target? Or is it like it really is and we are not thought police?



I'm suggesting you're brainwashed imbeciles who suck on the cocks of rightard bigots at every opportunity you get.

Wasn't that clear?

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greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:31pm:
I'm suggesting you're brainwashed imbeciles who suck on the cocks of rightard bigots at every opportunity you get.

Wasn't that clear?



No but you have clarified, thanks. My political views do not come into my moderation and nor should they.
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Reply #20 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:35pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:22pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:51pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:25pm:
issuevoter wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:21pm:
Is this really a topic, or just another egocentric whinge?


Yes.

Are you really a disgusting racist?




If all the races are indistinguishable, how do you tell them apart, turd?
Either there are racial differences -or there are no races, in which case it is impossible to be a racist.

Explain, turd.






Woah!

Back up there, little girl.

Who made that claim?

Not me, that's for sure.



What is the difference between races, then, turd? And why is it racist to notice them, if they exist,  stinker?

You reveal yourself to be completely out of your depth the moment you utter anything, turd.


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Reply #21 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:36pm
 
Setanta wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:34pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:31pm:
I'm suggesting you're brainwashed imbeciles who suck on the cocks of rightard bigots at every opportunity you get.

Wasn't that clear?



No but you have clarified, thanks. My political views do not come into my moderation and nor should they.


Tell it to someone who gives a sh!t.

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Reply #22 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:37pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:35pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:22pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:51pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:25pm:
issuevoter wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:21pm:
Is this really a topic, or just another egocentric whinge?


Yes.

Are you really a disgusting racist?




If all the races are indistinguishable, how do you tell them apart, turd?
Either there are racial differences -or there are no races, in which case it is impossible to be a racist.

Explain, turd.






Woah!

Back up there, little girl.

Who made that claim?

Not me, that's for sure.



What is the difference between races, then, turd? And why is it racist to notice them, if they exist,  stinker?

You reveal yourself to be completely out of your depth the moment you utter anything, turd.




You didn't answer my question.

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Reply #23 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:40pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:36pm:
Setanta wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:34pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:31pm:
I'm suggesting you're brainwashed imbeciles who suck on the cocks of rightard bigots at every opportunity you get.

Wasn't that clear?



No but you have clarified, thanks. My political views do not come into my moderation and nor should they.


Tell it to someone who gives a sh!t.



Your anger levels are really high lately.  RUOK?
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Reply #24 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:40pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:36pm:
Setanta wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:34pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:31pm:
I'm suggesting you're brainwashed imbeciles who suck on the cocks of rightard bigots at every opportunity you get.

Wasn't that clear?



No but you have clarified, thanks. My political views do not come into my moderation and nor should they.


Tell it to someone who gives a sh!t.



I suggest you do the same next time you want to crap on about cock sucking.
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Setanta wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:40pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:36pm:
Setanta wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:34pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:31pm:
I'm suggesting you're brainwashed imbeciles who suck on the cocks of rightard bigots at every opportunity you get.

Wasn't that clear?



No but you have clarified, thanks. My political views do not come into my moderation and nor should they.


Tell it to someone who gives a sh!t.



I suggest you do the same next time you want to crap on about cock sucking.


Sorry, but I have to stop you there.

What makes you think I would listen to any suggestion coming from you?

Seriously?
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Reply #26 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:47pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:43pm:
Setanta wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:40pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:36pm:
Setanta wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:34pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:31pm:
I'm suggesting you're brainwashed imbeciles who suck on the cocks of rightard bigots at every opportunity you get.

Wasn't that clear?



No but you have clarified, thanks. My political views do not come into my moderation and nor should they.


Tell it to someone who gives a sh!t.



I suggest you do the same next time you want to crap on about cock sucking.


Sorry, but I have to stop you there.

What makes you think I would listen to any suggestion coming from you?

Seriously?


No need to stop me, a suggestion is just that. Fell free to stick your fingers in your ears and yell "I'm not listening!" Listen or not, not my concern.
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Ummmmm - no - not unless I wish to be called a white bastard or some kind of Muslim hater......
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Ummmmm - no - not unless I wish to be called a white bastard or some kind of Muslim hater......


I get called a rascist all the time, I can't possibly imagine why when there is no evidence.
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Gordon wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:52pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:49pm:
Ummmmm - no - not unless I wish to be called a white bastard or some kind of Muslim hater......


I get called a rascist all the time, I can't possibly imagine why when there is no evidence.


I think that is the nub of the issue - certain groups accorded "Accredited Victim Status" can say anything they like about others.... no evidence required......

It's a disease of the late twentieth century that still needs to be resolved... this 'guilt by accusation' nonsense....
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Reply #30 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:57pm
 
I mean you don't have to be bitter or sick or other to be fed up with some of the stuff that goes on in here, it's pretty horrible... I just ignore now, its the only way to stay sane I don't even venture into these threads.
Reading this nasty rubbish all the time is enough to make anyone sick.

And I could name some really nasty pp in here who are the worst offenders too.
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Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:55pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:52pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:49pm:
Ummmmm - no - not unless I wish to be called a white bastard or some kind of Muslim hater......


I get called a rascist all the time, I can't possibly imagine why when there is no evidence.


I think that is the nub of the issue - certain groups accorded "Accredited Victim Status" can say anything they like about others.... no evidence required......

It's a disease of the late twentieth century that still needs to be resolved... this 'guilt by accusation' nonsense....


I work with every race imaginable.
I'm working with a curryshitter client on Tuesday.....top bloke.  I eat in Muslim restaurants,  Ive rooted women from just about every race and even worked in a muzzo country ffs! I worked for free for various NGOs in SE Asia for nearly 5 years.

Maybe I don't talk the talk but damn I walk the walk.

My problem specifically is with sunni Islam and that makes me rascist.....lol
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Gordon wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:04pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:55pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:52pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:49pm:
Ummmmm - no - not unless I wish to be called a white bastard or some kind of Muslim hater......


I get called a rascist all the time, I can't possibly imagine why when there is no evidence.


I think that is the nub of the issue - certain groups accorded "Accredited Victim Status" can say anything they like about others.... no evidence required......

It's a disease of the late twentieth century that still needs to be resolved... this 'guilt by accusation' nonsense....


I work with every race imaginable.
I'm working with a curryshitter client on Tuesday.....top bloke.  I eat in Muslim restaurants,  Ive rooted women from just about every race and even worked in a muzzo country ffs! I worked for free for various NGOs in SE Asia for nearly 5 years.

Maybe I don't talk the talk but damn I walk the walk.

My problem specifically is with sunni Islam and that makes me rascist.....lol


Received and understood.......
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Reply #34 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:14pm
 
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:07pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:04pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:55pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:52pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:49pm:
Ummmmm - no - not unless I wish to be called a white bastard or some kind of Muslim hater......


I get called a rascist all the time, I can't possibly imagine why when there is no evidence.


I think that is the nub of the issue - certain groups accorded "Accredited Victim Status" can say anything they like about others.... no evidence required......

It's a disease of the late twentieth century that still needs to be resolved... this 'guilt by accusation' nonsense....


I work with every race imaginable.
I'm working with a curryshitter client on Tuesday.....top bloke.  I eat in Muslim restaurants,  Ive rooted women from just about every race and even worked in a muzzo country ffs! I worked for free for various NGOs in SE Asia for nearly 5 years.

Maybe I don't talk the talk but damn I walk the walk.

My problem specifically is with sunni Islam and that makes me rascist.....lol


Received and understood.......


    Doing something most worthy, something I wanted to do but the wife nixed.
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Reply #35 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:16pm
 
Setanta wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:14pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:07pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:04pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:55pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:52pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:49pm:
Ummmmm - no - not unless I wish to be called a white bastard or some kind of Muslim hater......


I get called a rascist all the time, I can't possibly imagine why when there is no evidence.


I think that is the nub of the issue - certain groups accorded "Accredited Victim Status" can say anything they like about others.... no evidence required......

It's a disease of the late twentieth century that still needs to be resolved... this 'guilt by accusation' nonsense....


I work with every race imaginable.
I'm working with a curryshitter client on Tuesday.....top bloke.  I eat in Muslim restaurants,  Ive rooted women from just about every race and even worked in a muzzo country ffs! I worked for free for various NGOs in SE Asia for nearly 5 years.

Maybe I don't talk the talk but damn I walk the walk.

My problem specifically is with sunni Islam and that makes me rascist.....lol


Received and understood.......


    Doing something most worthy, something I wanted to do but the wife nixed.


In Nth Viet I worked with an 80 year old Dutch guy.
Plenty of time yet Smiley
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Reply #36 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:19pm
 
Gordon wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:16pm:
In Nth Viet I worked with an 80 year old Dutch guy.
Plenty of time yet Smiley


Might put it to her again when the last son leaves.
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Reply #37 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:23pm
 
Setanta wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:14pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:07pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:04pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:55pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:52pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:49pm:
Ummmmm - no - not unless I wish to be called a white bastard or some kind of Muslim hater......


I get called a rascist all the time, I can't possibly imagine why when there is no evidence.


I think that is the nub of the issue - certain groups accorded "Accredited Victim Status" can say anything they like about others.... no evidence required......

It's a disease of the late twentieth century that still needs to be resolved... this 'guilt by accusation' nonsense....


I work with every race imaginable.
I'm working with a curryshitter client on Tuesday.....top bloke.  I eat in Muslim restaurants,  Ive rooted women from just about every race and even worked in a muzzo country ffs! I worked for free for various NGOs in SE Asia for nearly 5 years.

Maybe I don't talk the talk but damn I walk the walk.

My problem specifically is with sunni Islam and that makes me rascist.....lol


Received and understood.......


    Doing something most worthy, something I wanted to do but the wife nixed.



Yes - I'm the same - I wanted to own the home, then do aid work somewhere..... women have a way of changing that.....

BTW - my ex and daughter are working on the Errol Flynn film currently in  production ... daughter thinks she might go on to Aquaman.... hadn't even heard about it...

So it seems our 'high wage costs' are precluding Hollywood from making movies here....  (falls about laughing).....  Grin  Grin  Grin
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Reply #38 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:24pm
 
Setanta wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:19pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:16pm:
In Nth Viet I worked with an 80 year old Dutch guy.
Plenty of time yet Smiley


Might put it to her again when the last son leaves.


Teaching English is a nice way to start then you can look around for a way use your professional skills.
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Setanta wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:19pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:16pm:
In Nth Viet I worked with an 80 year old Dutch guy.
Plenty of time yet Smiley


Might put it to her again when the last son leaves.



Leave her alone long enough and I might put it to her for you... oh... sorry... different genre...... Smiley

I still want to do aid work somewhere.... but I'm carer for my ex (the other one).....  Jayzua - the kid's mother is 70 and still doing movies..... it's the Irish genes....

FSS - our daughter is 26 this year..... late starters.... she was always making movies and I was off - in her words - fighting the wars...
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Gordon wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:24pm:
Setanta wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:19pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:16pm:
In Nth Viet I worked with an 80 year old Dutch guy.
Plenty of time yet Smiley


Might put it to her again when the last son leaves.


Teaching English is a nice way to start then you can look around for a way use your professional skills.


I wouldn't say professional skills, those are hard to come by in Au for that line of work. Book learning only goes so far in that field I imagine.
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Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:28pm:
Setanta wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:19pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:16pm:
In Nth Viet I worked with an 80 year old Dutch guy.
Plenty of time yet Smiley


Might put it to her again when the last son leaves.



Leave her alone long enough and I might put it to her for you... oh... sorry... different genre...... Smiley

I still want to do aid work somewhere.... but I'm carer for my ex (the other one).....  Jayzua - the kid's mother is 70 and still doing movies..... it's the Irish genes....

FSS - our daughter is 26 this year..... late starters.... she was always making movies and I was off - in her words - fighting the wars...


I'm more interested in cleaning up after them.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:21pm:
Aussie wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:09pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:51pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:25pm:
issuevoter wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:21pm:
Is this really a topic, or just another egocentric whinge?


Yes.

Are you really a disgusting racist?




If all the races are indistinguishable, how do you tell them apart, turd?
Either there are racial differences -or there are no races, in which case it is impossible to be a racist.

Explain, turd.






Which part of not being a 'thought police' is required to understand that obvious breach of Effendi's Rules?

Really, those Rules ought to be ditched to reflect what does go on here.


The mods will never ban someone something like Frank.

They don't have the balls.

Much easier to ban me: someone who tells the truth.



You might have noticed the absence of an old friend, Greggery - chap who went by the name of Sore End.

If Frank didn't impersonate him so cunningly, others mightn't have noticed his absence either.

I did though. I do miss him, you know.

Frank's not the same.
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Karnal wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:53pm:
You might have noticed the absence of an old friend, Greggery - chap who went by the name of Sore End.

If Frank didn't impersonate him so cunningly, others mightn't have noticed his absence either.

I did though. I do miss him, you know.

Frank's not the same.


I like it when you are being frank. Wink
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Frank wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:35pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:22pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:51pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:25pm:
issuevoter wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:21pm:
Is this really a topic, or just another egocentric whinge?


Yes.

Are you really a disgusting racist?




If all the races are indistinguishable, how do you tell them apart, turd?
Either there are racial differences -or there are no races, in which case it is impossible to be a racist.

Explain, turd.






Woah!

Back up there, little girl.

Who made that claim?

Not me, that's for sure.



What is the difference between races, then, turd? And why is it racist to notice them, if they exist,  stinker?

You reveal yourself to be completely out of your depth the moment you utter anything, turd.




You see? Sore End would have said this in Danish: tjurd.

I do miss him.
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Reply #45 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:58pm
 
Setanta wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:54pm:
Karnal wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:53pm:
You might have noticed the absence of an old friend, Greggery - chap who went by the name of Sore End.

If Frank didn't impersonate him so cunningly, others mightn't have noticed his absence either.

I did though. I do miss him, you know.

Frank's not the same.


I like it when you are being frank. Wink


Now now, Setanta, you leave Frank out of this. He's learned his lesson.

He now leaves the j out of his pet name for Greggery.

Why would anyone want to ban a foreigner who is so willing to assimilate?
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.. and so - as the sun collapses into the west - we bid farewell to reasoned discussion and welcome the new night darkness of personal vitriol...

I'm off to watch a free movie online....
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.. and so - as the sun collapses into the west - we bid farewell to reasoned discussion and welcome the new night darkness of personal vitriol...

I'm off to watch a free movie online....


Tjurd.
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Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 11:09pm:
.. and so - as the sun collapses into the west - we bid farewell to reasoned discussion and welcome the new night darkness of personal vitriol...

I'm off to watch a free movie online....


Tjurd.


Is racism encouraged?

Only if you are granted a licence to do it....

Salaam....
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Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 11:09pm:
.. and so - as the sun collapses into the west - we bid farewell to reasoned discussion and welcome the new night darkness of personal vitriol...

I'm off to watch a free movie online....


Tjurd.


Is racism encouraged?

Only if you are granted a licence to do it....

Salaam....


Did you mean Shalom?
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Racism should be encouraged.
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Setanta wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 11:42pm:
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Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 11:09pm:
.. and so - as the sun collapses into the west - we bid farewell to reasoned discussion and welcome the new night darkness of personal vitriol...

I'm off to watch a free movie online....


Tjurd.


Is racism encouraged?

Only if you are granted a licence to do it....

Salaam....


Did you mean Shalom?


I'm Independent.....
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Racism should be encouraged.



Why so?
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Why so?


Because it is a fact
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Why so?


Because it is a fact


I hate lycra wearing bike riders. Are they a race?

I don't really hate them, they're just severely annoying. Are you one? A pretend racer?
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Encourage them.
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Why so?


Because it is a fact


I hate lycra wearing bike riders. Are they a race?



No, they're a fckt.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 7:48pm:
For some reason, I'm banned from 'Feedback'.

So, this is from Mr Kangaroo:

"I've read the forum rules and I notice that many on here don't bother to follow them, especially when it comes to being racist when the topic isn't even about race.

"Is there any enforcement of the rules or are they merely a formality in running a forum?

"Is it safe to assume that those who moderate or even own the forum condone that kind of activity which is why it goes unmoderated?

"Thanks."


I believe he has hit the nail on the head in the highlighted part.


I don't see this as a problem for you. All you need to do is use your other ID of Karnal, the social worker employed by the Muslim Brotherhood.
Or start another one and go about your business of defending the indefensible, such as the invasion of Europe by human or near-human garbage and genital mutilation of little girls by Muslim women.

Repeat after.me: "all cultures are equal"
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Racism is not acceptable in any form.
Regardless of where you are born, what colour you are or what language you speak, we are all the same.

What defines us, what causes angst and trouble is how we act, how and what we do and who we do it to.

This is not racism, this is simply common sense.
If a particular group, cult or culture is itself intolerant, brutal and/ or barbaric.
If this group is isolationist and antithetical to the ideals of tolerance, then that group must be considered outside the realms of decency and should be restricted and even prevented from mixing with civilized people.

The CULT is the perfect example of this problem.
It plays on the race debate, knowing that this is its only avenue of safety.
However if we examine its practices, its inhumanity, its abhorrent treatment of its own people where it rules, we can see that it is not a race, it is not a religion, it is simply a political and military invader.

As such it should be discriminated against and stopped dead in its tracks until it matures and is wiling to be more tolerant and civilized.
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Pecca has admitted that terrorists are and anyone who promotes, condones, praises or apologises for terrorists or its acts is also mentally ill.
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Valkie wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 8:39am:
Racism is not acceptable in any form.
Regardless of where you are born, what colour you are or what language you speak, we are all the same.

What defines us, what causes angst and trouble is how we act, how and what we do and who we do it to.

This is not racism, this is simply common sense.

If a particular group, cult or culture is itself intolerant, brutal and/ or barbaric.
If this group is isolationist and antithetical to the ideals of tolerance, then that group must be considered outside the realms of decency and should be restricted and even prevented from mixing with civilized people.


The CULT is the perfect example of this problem.
It plays on the race debate, knowing that this is its only avenue of safety.
However if we examine its practices, its inhumanity, its abhorrent treatment of its own people where it rules, we can see that it is not a race, it is not a religion, it is simply a political and military invader.

As such it should be discriminated against and stopped dead in its tracks until it matures and is wiling to be more tolerant and civilized.



Are you talking about Islamophobes?

Sure sounds like it to me:

"intolerant, brutal and/ or barbaric ... isolationist and antithetical to the ideals of tolerance ... "

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LOL! Look at all the racists come out with the disclaimer "I'm not a racist ... but", and the seminal favourite, "Some of my best friends are *insert pejorative here*".

Face i lads, you're a bunch of racists. Own it. There are even clubs you can join.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:06am:
Valkie wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 8:39am:
Racism is not acceptable in any form.
Regardless of where you are born, what colour you are or what language you speak, we are all the same.

What defines us, what causes angst and trouble is how we act, how and what we do and who we do it to.

This is not racism, this is simply common sense.

If a particular group, cult or culture is itself intolerant, brutal and/ or barbaric.
If this group is isolationist and antithetical to the ideals of tolerance, then that group must be considered outside the realms of decency and should be restricted and even prevented from mixing with civilized people.


The CULT is the perfect example of this problem.
It plays on the race debate, knowing that this is its only avenue of safety.
However if we examine its practices, its inhumanity, its abhorrent treatment of its own people where it rules, we can see that it is not a race, it is not a religion, it is simply a political and military invader.

As such it should be discriminated against and stopped dead in its tracks until it matures and is wiling to be more tolerant and civilized.



Are you talking about Islamophobes?

Sure sounds like it to me:

"intolerant, brutal and/ or barbaric ... isolationist and antithetical to the ideals of tolerance ... "



Do you ever read your posts before you hit post?
You sound like a child.
Trying to twist something into what it is not.

Ok lets play a game little pecca.

Show me the brutality of someone who distrusts Islam?
I can give you many examples of brutality of the CULT, FGM, Behaeding, Murder for being gay, murder of children who have been raped etc etc.

Point 1 for me....

Show me proven intolerance to anyone other than the CULT of those against it.
You must understand, there is a difference between intolrance and justified regugnance for something.
I don't like the idea of sewage in my lounge room I find it repugnant,
I don't like rodents infesting my home, I find it repugnant.
I do not want cancer, so I don't smoke, the thought of cancer and the associated slow death is repugnant.

I do not like or agree with the repugnant ideal and practices of the CULT, I neither fear nor hate it, I simply find it repugnant, like sewage, rodents and cancer.

This is not intolerance, this is a simple case of avoiding repugnant and disgusting things.

Point 2 for me.

Finally, primitive behavior based on a book of lies, perversions and stupidity is just about as primitive as one can get.
Primitive mantra and repetitive practices based on some primitive man who was a liar, a pervert and a simpleton.
Just about as primitive as one can get.

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LOL! Look at all the racists come out with the disclaimer "I'm not a racist ... but", and the seminal favourite, "Some of my best friends are *insert pejorative here*".

F
Yet neither of these things have been stated in this thread by anyone except yourself. Stop listening to those voices in your head, they arent real.
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Reply #64 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 5:30pm
 
mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:07am:
LOL! Look at all the racists come out with the disclaimer "I'm not a racist ... but", and the seminal favourite, "Some of my best friends are *insert pejorative here*".

Face i lads, you're a bunch of racists. Own it. There are even clubs you can join.


The CULT is not a race dimwhit, its a barbaric,  pedophile infested, brutal regimen of self confessed retards, criminals, murderers and parasites.

If someone is antisematic, they are not racist.

If someone dislikes, Christians, they are not racist

If someone hates sewage, like islam.....they are not racist

It does not matter how many times you say it, it still aint true.....fool


Now repeat after me.
To ...be...a...race...it ...must....be ...a ...race.

To...be...a ...racist....you...have...to ....hate ....a ....race.

Islam....is ....not.....a....race, ....it ....is....simply.....a.....cult
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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Just more Islamophobia, folks, move along there, nothing new to see, just the same old Islamophobia.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #66 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 7:13pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 6:22pm:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KPmXCf84Ozo/UWGrVhH6nyI/AAAAAAAAAd4/0Xoj4kE1eKg/s72-c/...

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Just more Islamophobia, folks, move along there, nothing new to see, just the same old Islamophobia.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes


You probably think you are smart or even funny,
But this continual asinine, infantile drivel simply shows that you are childish, uneducated, lost for competent thought or argument.

But we all expect this from the likes of you.
Being a muzzo , sympathiser, sycophant, traitor to the human race , you have no understanding of logic.

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Some races are inferior, some are superior.

Not every member of each is superior or inferior but as far as statistics can say, the differences are obvious across populations.

Unless, of course, if races do not exist and Africans, Aborigines, Arabs, Islanders etc are mysteriously and inexplicably inferior to Europeans for some other reason.



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Agnes wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 7:58pm:
you are well loved Greg.. everyone here loves you  Smiley


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Reply #69 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:38pm
 
Valkie wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 7:13pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 6:22pm:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KPmXCf84Ozo/UWGrVhH6nyI/AAAAAAAAAd4/0Xoj4kE1eKg/s72-c/...

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Just more Islamophobia, folks, move along there, nothing new to see, just the same old Islamophobia.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes


You probably think you are smart or even funny,
But this continual asinine, infantile drivel simply shows that you are childish, uneducated, lost for competent thought or argument.

But we all expect this from the likes of you.
Being a muzzo , sympathiser, sycophant, traitor to the human race , you have no understanding of logic.

Do you?


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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor Valkie resorting to ad hominem debate, rather than actually arguing the issue.  Tsk, tsk.    Roll Eyes
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Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:00pm:
Some races are inferior, some are superior.

Not every member of each is superior or inferior but as far as statistics can say, the differences are obvious across populations.

Unless, of course, if races do not exist and Africans, Aborigines, Arabs, Islanders etc are mysteriously and inexplicably inferior to Europeans for some other reason.


"Race" as you are using the term is a social construct, Soren.  Genetically there is only one "race", the human one.  There is more differences with each so-called "racial" group than there is between them.   Essentially we are all Africans/Indigenous/Arabs/Islanders/etc.   Indeed, there is ample evidence that we are all descended from Africans.    Roll Eyes
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Reply #71 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:47pm
 
Setanta wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 1:15am:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 1:07am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 12:43am:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 12:17am:
Racism should be encouraged.



Why so?


Because it is a fact


I hate lycra wearing bike riders. Are they a race?

I don't really hate them, they're just severely annoying. Are you one? A pretend racer?


You are entitled to hate lycra wearing bike riders.
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Reply #72 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:05pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:42pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:00pm:
Some races are inferior, some are superior.

Not every member of each is superior or inferior but as far as statistics can say, the differences are obvious across populations.

Unless, of course, if races do not exist and Africans, Aborigines, Arabs, Islanders etc are mysteriously and inexplicably inferior to Europeans for some other reason.


"Race" as you are using the term is a social construct, Soren.  Genetically there is only one "race", the human one.  There is more differences with each so-called "racial" group than there is between them.   Essentially we are all Africans/Indigenous/Arabs/Islanders/etc.   Indeed, there is ample evidence that we are all descended from Africans.    Roll Eyes



So why are Africans fleeing to Europe and no Europeans are fleeing to Africa?

Africans wanted independence from the European yoke of colonial oppression, yet after 60 years of African independence, Africans are flocking to the European continent FROM THEIR FELLOW AFRICANS.

It's all about race and the culture that is inextricably bound up with race. Africans are vociferious, ruthless wolves to each other. As are Arabs, Indians, Chinese, Indo-Chinese.   These places are deeply corrupt and unpleasant, that is why people are leaving them. Blacks, Arabs Asians, they all have a race pride that is totally unjustified.

But they are not leaving behind the culture that makes them flee. Instead, they spread the unpleasant, inferior, toxic values they have been fleeing.
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Reply #73 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:07pm
 
Valkie wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 5:30pm:
mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:07am:
LOL! Look at all the racists come out with the disclaimer "I'm not a racist ... but", and the seminal favourite, "Some of my best friends are *insert pejorative here*".

Face i lads, you're a bunch of racists. Own it. There are even clubs you can join.


The CULT is not a race dimwhit, its a barbaric,  pedophile infested, brutal regimen of self confessed retards, criminals, murderers and parasites.

If someone is antisematic, they are not racist.

If someone dislikes, Christians, they are not racist

If someone hates sewage, like islam.....they are not racist

It does not matter how many times you say it, it still aint true.....fool


Now repeat after me.
To ...be...a...race...it ...must....be ...a ...race.

To...be...a ...racist....you...have...to ....hate ....a ....race.

Islam....is ....not.....a....race, ....it ....is....simply.....a.....cult



Valkie i was talking about bog-standard racism, not Islamophobia. Don't you feel just a little but silly now?

You know, the kind of racism you yourself exhibit when you refer to Indonesians as "monkeys".
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Reply #74 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:12pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:42pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:00pm:
Some races are inferior, some are superior.

Not every member of each is superior or inferior but as far as statistics can say, the differences are obvious across populations.

Unless, of course, if races do not exist and Africans, Aborigines, Arabs, Islanders etc are mysteriously and inexplicably inferior to Europeans for some other reason.


"Race" as you are using the term is a social construct, Soren.  Genetically there is only one "race", the human one.  There is more differences with each so-called "racial" group than there is between them.   Essentially we are all Africans/Indigenous/Arabs/Islanders/etc.   Indeed, there is ample evidence that we are all descended from Africans.    Roll Eyes

Total bollocks, you stupid little aunty.  They were not 'Africans' at that point.

Here's a spanner -there are thousands like it- for your idiotic, unthinking 'thesis': why should we recognise Aborigines if there are no such things as races? Who IS an Aborigine if there are no races? How many European (a race) ancestors can you have before you top being an Aborigine.

Conversely, how many Aboriginal ancestor can you have and remain still a European?





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Reply #75 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:32pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:00pm:
Some races are inferior, some are superior.

Not every member of each is superior or inferior but as far as statistics can say, the differences are obvious across populations.

Unless, of course, if races do not exist and Africans, Aborigines, Arabs, Islanders etc are mysteriously and inexplicably inferior to Europeans for some other reason.





I see no evidence of you being "superior" to anyone at all, Frank.
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Reply #76 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:39pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:42pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:00pm:
Some races are inferior, some are superior.

Not every member of each is superior or inferior but as far as statistics can say, the differences are obvious across populations.

Unless, of course, if races do not exist and Africans, Aborigines, Arabs, Islanders etc are mysteriously and inexplicably inferior to Europeans for some other reason.


"Race" as you are using the term is a social construct, Soren.  Genetically there is only one "race", the human one.  There is more differences with each so-called "racial" group than there is between them.   Essentially we are all Africans/Indigenous/Arabs/Islanders/etc.   Indeed, there is ample evidence that we are all descended from Africans.    Roll Eyes

We also share 50 percent of our DNA with bananas. On the same basis you could say we are descended from bananas.
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Reply #77 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:41pm
 
Rhino wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:39pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:42pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:00pm:
Some races are inferior, some are superior.

Not every member of each is superior or inferior but as far as statistics can say, the differences are obvious across populations.

Unless, of course, if races do not exist and Africans, Aborigines, Arabs, Islanders etc are mysteriously and inexplicably inferior to Europeans for some other reason.


"Race" as you are using the term is a social construct, Soren.  Genetically there is only one "race", the human one.  There is more differences with each so-called "racial" group than there is between them.   Essentially we are all Africans/Indigenous/Arabs/Islanders/etc.   Indeed, there is ample evidence that we are all descended from Africans.    Roll Eyes

We also share 50 percent of our DNA with bananas. On the same basis you could say we are descended from bananas.



The sad thing is, in your mind that probably passes for an argument.
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Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:42pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:00pm:
Some races are inferior, some are superior.

Not every member of each is superior or inferior but as far as statistics can say, the differences are obvious across populations.

Unless, of course, if races do not exist and Africans, Aborigines, Arabs, Islanders etc are mysteriously and inexplicably inferior to Europeans for some other reason.


"Race" as you are using the term is a social construct, Soren.  Genetically there is only one "race", the human one.  There is more differences with each so-called "racial" group than there is between them.   Essentially we are all Africans/Indigenous/Arabs/Islanders/etc.   Indeed, there is ample evidence that we are all descended from Africans.    Roll Eyes
Science has shown conclusively through DNA that there are indeed separate races. Aboriginals are mixed with Denisovian, Africans have no Neanderthal admixture, Whites do have Neanderthal DNA.
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As I said, it's not about individuals but populations.

Africans are fleeing other Africans after 60 years of African independence. And they are fleeing to their old colonial masters in Europe.

It's a one way movement of Africans fleeing the hellholes Africans have created.

Same with Arabs and Muslims. No Europeans are trying to get to the 'Muslims lands' while th Muslims are desperate to get the bloody hell away from other murderous, oppressive, exploitative Muslims.

And they ALL want to go to the old colonial oppressors in Europe!!!!!!!  They have been given independence and self-rule an they have f  Vcked it up like they have done with everything else. That's their culture.  There is simply nothing in African or Muslim Arab culture that improves anything - that's why thy themselves are fleeing it.  If they were not inferior cultures they wouldn't be fleeing themselves, would they?  They would stay and build it and make the most of it.

But they know it's all in vain, it's all sh!te, so they run away, leaving their second class women behind. And once in Europe, they want sharia and ummah.ii
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Rhino wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:45pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:42pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:00pm:
Some races are inferior, some are superior.

Not every member of each is superior or inferior but as far as statistics can say, the differences are obvious across populations.

Unless, of course, if races do not exist and Africans, Aborigines, Arabs, Islanders etc are mysteriously and inexplicably inferior to Europeans for some other reason.


"Race" as you are using the term is a social construct, Soren.  Genetically there is only one "race", the human one.  There is more differences with each so-called "racial" group than there is between them.   Essentially we are all Africans/Indigenous/Arabs/Islanders/etc.   Indeed, there is ample evidence that we are all descended from Africans.    Roll Eyes
Science has shown conclusively through DNA that there are indeed separate races. Aboriginals are mixed with Denisovian, Africans have no Neanderthal admixture, Whites do have Neanderthal DNA.



Brian is 100% correct. The majority of difference between humans is found within groups.
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Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:47pm:
As I said, it's not about individuals but populations.

Africans are fleeing other Africans after 60 years of African independence. And they are fleeing to their old colonial masters in Europe.

It's a one way movement of Africans fleeing the hellholes Africans have created.

Same with Arabs and Muslims. No Europeans are trying to get to the 'Muslims lands' while th Muslims are desperate to get the bloody hell away from other murderous, oppressive, exploitative Muslims.

And they ALL want to go to the old colonial oppressors in Europe!!!!!!!  They have been given independence and self-rule an they have f  Vcked it up like they have done with everything else. That's their culture.  There is simply nothing in African or Muslim Arab culture that improves anything - that's why thy themselves are fleeing it.  If they were not inferior cultures they wouldn't be fleeing themselves, would they?  They would stay and build it and make the most of it.

But they know it's all in vain, it's all sh!te, so they run away, leaving their second class women behind. And once in Europe, they want sharia and ummah.i










There's so much wrong with that, i have no idea where to start.
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Reply #82 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:53pm
 
Rhino wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:39pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:42pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:00pm:
Some races are inferior, some are superior.

Not every member of each is superior or inferior but as far as statistics can say, the differences are obvious across populations.

Unless, of course, if races do not exist and Africans, Aborigines, Arabs, Islanders etc are mysteriously and inexplicably inferior to Europeans for some other reason.


"Race" as you are using the term is a social construct, Soren.  Genetically there is only one "race", the human one.  There is more differences with each so-called "racial" group than there is between them.   Essentially we are all Africans/Indigenous/Arabs/Islanders/etc.   Indeed, there is ample evidence that we are all descended from Africans.    Roll Eyes


We also share 50 percent of our DNA with bananas. On the same basis you could say we are descended from bananas.


Do you have a problem with evolution, Rhino?  Creationism is more your thing, perhaps?   Roll Eyes
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Rhino wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:45pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:42pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:00pm:
Some races are inferior, some are superior.

Not every member of each is superior or inferior but as far as statistics can say, the differences are obvious across populations.

Unless, of course, if races do not exist and Africans, Aborigines, Arabs, Islanders etc are mysteriously and inexplicably inferior to Europeans for some other reason.


"Race" as you are using the term is a social construct, Soren.  Genetically there is only one "race", the human one.  There is more differences with each so-called "racial" group than there is between them.   Essentially we are all Africans/Indigenous/Arabs/Islanders/etc.   Indeed, there is ample evidence that we are all descended from Africans.    Roll Eyes
Science has shown conclusively through DNA that there are indeed separate races. Aboriginals are mixed with Denisovian, Africans have no Neanderthal admixture, Whites do have Neanderthal DNA.


Has it?  Care to point out this research, Rhino?  You know, provide a link to the stuff that proves that "races" actually exist?   I'd be interested to see it.   Roll Eyes
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Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:47pm:
As I said, it's not about individuals but populations.

Africans are fleeing other Africans after 60 years of African independence. And they are fleeing to their old colonial masters in Europe.

It's a one way movement of Africans fleeing the hellholes Africans have created.

Same with Arabs and Muslims. No Europeans are trying to get to the 'Muslims lands' while th Muslims are desperate to get the bloody hell away from other murderous, oppressive, exploitative Muslims.

And they ALL want to go to the old colonial oppressors in Europe!!!!!!!  They have been given independence and self-rule an they have f  Vcked it up like they have done with everything else. That's their culture.  There is simply nothing in African or Muslim Arab culture that improves anything - that's why thy themselves are fleeing it.  If they were not inferior cultures they wouldn't be fleeing themselves, would they?  They would stay and build it and make the most of it.

But they know it's all in vain, it's all sh!te, so they run away, leaving their second class women behind. And once in Europe, they want sharia and ummah.


Colonialism has a great deal to answer for, Soren.   Tsk, tsk, amazing how your 60 years overturns several hundred years of European rule and all the problems it has caused to Africans/Asians/Central/Southern Americans/Oceanians...    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:49pm:
Rhino wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:45pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:42pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:00pm:
Some races are inferior, some are superior.

Not every member of each is superior or inferior but as far as statistics can say, the differences are obvious across populations.

Unless, of course, if races do not exist and Africans, Aborigines, Arabs, Islanders etc are mysteriously and inexplicably inferior to Europeans for some other reason.


"Race" as you are using the term is a social construct, Soren.  Genetically there is only one "race", the human one.  There is more differences with each so-called "racial" group than there is between them.   Essentially we are all Africans/Indigenous/Arabs/Islanders/etc.   Indeed, there is ample evidence that we are all descended from Africans.    Roll Eyes
Science has shown conclusively through DNA that there are indeed separate races. Aboriginals are mixed with Denisovian, Africans have no Neanderthal admixture, Whites do have Neanderthal DNA.



Brian is 100% correct. The majority of difference between humans is found within groups
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Groups of what?

Men/women? Male/female? Black/white? Christian/Athiest?
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Reply #86 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:02pm
 
Neferti wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:59pm:
mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:49pm:
Rhino wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:45pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:42pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:00pm:
Some races are inferior, some are superior.

Not every member of each is superior or inferior but as far as statistics can say, the differences are obvious across populations.

Unless, of course, if races do not exist and Africans, Aborigines, Arabs, Islanders etc are mysteriously and inexplicably inferior to Europeans for some other reason.


"Race" as you are using the term is a social construct, Soren.  Genetically there is only one "race", the human one.  There is more differences with each so-called "racial" group than there is between them.   Essentially we are all Africans/Indigenous/Arabs/Islanders/etc.   Indeed, there is ample evidence that we are all descended from Africans.    Roll Eyes
Science has shown conclusively through DNA that there are indeed separate races. Aboriginals are mixed with Denisovian, Africans have no Neanderthal admixture, Whites do have Neanderthal DNA.



Brian is 100% correct. The majority of difference between humans is found within groups
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Groups of what?

Men/women? Male/female? Black/white? Christian/Athiest?


Group means what we would erroneously refer to as races.
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Reply #87 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:06pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:54pm:
Rhino wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:45pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:42pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:00pm:
Some races are inferior, some are superior.

Not every member of each is superior or inferior but as far as statistics can say, the differences are obvious across populations.

Unless, of course, if races do not exist and Africans, Aborigines, Arabs, Islanders etc are mysteriously and inexplicably inferior to Europeans for some other reason.


"Race" as you are using the term is a social construct, Soren.  Genetically there is only one "race", the human one.  There is more differences with each so-called "racial" group than there is between them.   Essentially we are all Africans/Indigenous/Arabs/Islanders/etc.   Indeed, there is ample evidence that we are all descended from Africans.    Roll Eyes
Science has shown conclusively through DNA that there are indeed separate races. Aboriginals are mixed with Denisovian, Africans have no Neanderthal admixture, Whites do have Neanderthal DNA.


Has it?  Care to point out this research, Rhino?  You know, provide a link to the stuff that proves that "races" actually exist?   I'd be interested to see it.   Roll Eyes
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Rhino wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:06pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:54pm:
Rhino wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:45pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:42pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:00pm:
Some races are inferior, some are superior.

Not every member of each is superior or inferior but as far as statistics can say, the differences are obvious across populations.

Unless, of course, if races do not exist and Africans, Aborigines, Arabs, Islanders etc are mysteriously and inexplicably inferior to Europeans for some other reason.


"Race" as you are using the term is a social construct, Soren.  Genetically there is only one "race", the human one.  There is more differences with each so-called "racial" group than there is between them.   Essentially we are all Africans/Indigenous/Arabs/Islanders/etc.   Indeed, there is ample evidence that we are all descended from Africans.    Roll Eyes
Science has shown conclusively through DNA that there are indeed separate races. Aboriginals are mixed with Denisovian, Africans have no Neanderthal admixture, Whites do have Neanderthal DNA.


Has it?  Care to point out this research, Rhino?  You know, provide a link to the stuff that proves that "races" actually exist?   I'd be interested to see it.   Roll Eyes
Ive already given you the necassary terms to google it yourself, go for it.



Rhino speak for "i can't back up what i say, please try to google something to validate me".
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And your image is every bit as wrong, bigotted  and preposterous as you are
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mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:02pm:
Neferti wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:59pm:
mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:49pm:
Rhino wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:45pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:42pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:00pm:
Some races are inferior, some are superior.

Not every member of each is superior or inferior but as far as statistics can say, the differences are obvious across populations.

Unless, of course, if races do not exist and Africans, Aborigines, Arabs, Islanders etc are mysteriously and inexplicably inferior to Europeans for some other reason.


"Race" as you are using the term is a social construct, Soren.  Genetically there is only one "race", the human one.  There is more differences with each so-called "racial" group than there is between them.   Essentially we are all Africans/Indigenous/Arabs/Islanders/etc.   Indeed, there is ample evidence that we are all descended from Africans.    Roll Eyes
Science has shown conclusively through DNA that there are indeed separate races. Aboriginals are mixed with Denisovian, Africans have no Neanderthal admixture, Whites do have Neanderthal DNA.



Brian is 100% correct. The majority of difference between humans is found within groups
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Groups of what?

Men/women? Male/female? Black/white? Christian/Athiest?


Group means what we would erroneously refer to as races.


OK, so what in your little world is a "race".
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There is technically only one race Nef.

That would be the human race.

... unless you believe in lizard people. Do you believe in lizard people Nef?
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And your image is every bit as wrong, bigotted  and preposterous as you are


I wouldn't say those images are "wrong" as such ... however the blonde could ACTUALLY be able to claim Aboriginal heritage  .... IF she can connect (somehow) to a Tribe out there somewhere who NEVER had to REGISTER their kids.

Blah blah blah.
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Neferti wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:20pm:
mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:11pm:
And your image is every bit as wrong, bigotted  and preposterous as you are


I wouldn't say those images are "wrong" as such ... however the blonde could ACTUALLY be able to claim Aboriginal heritage  .... IF she can connect (somehow) to a Tribe out there somewhere who NEVER had to REGISTER their kids.

Blah blah blah.


There you go Rhino. Nef believes you. Feel better?
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are you part abo, mothra?

PS I have no idea what reno (?) thinks
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are you part abo?



Can't you spell Aboriginal?
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In my experience, racism (for want of a better word) is completely natural and should be accepted rather than feared.

Birds of a feather flock together.

Studies have shown that infants gravitate towards people of their own features. I have found this to be true also in my own personal experience.

Do we want so much for the time when aboriginals will refer to white people as "our people"?
Forget it! Not gonna happen.

Of course it's completely taboo for a white person to refer to other whites as "our people", because we whites seem to like to piss down our own backs and tell ourselves it's raining.

Get honest. Tell it like it is, to ourselves and others.






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In my experience, racism (for want of a better word) is completely natural and should be accepted rather than feared.

Birds of a feather flock together.

Studies have shown that infants gravitate towards people of their own features. I have found this to be true also in my own personal experience.

Do we want so much for the time when aboriginals will refer to white people as "our people"?
Forget it! Not gonna happen.

Of course it's completely taboo for a white person to refer to other whites as "our people", because we whites seem to like to piss down our own backs and tell ourselves it's raining.

Get honest. Tell it like it is, to ourselves and others.









I think you are unclear on the meanin of the word 'racism'.

At least i hope you are.
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Rhino wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:06pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:54pm:
Rhino wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:45pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:42pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:00pm:
Some races are inferior, some are superior.

Not every member of each is superior or inferior but as far as statistics can say, the differences are obvious across populations.

Unless, of course, if races do not exist and Africans, Aborigines, Arabs, Islanders etc are mysteriously and inexplicably inferior to Europeans for some other reason.


"Race" as you are using the term is a social construct, Soren.  Genetically there is only one "race", the human one.  There is more differences with each so-called "racial" group than there is between them.   Essentially we are all Africans/Indigenous/Arabs/Islanders/etc.   Indeed, there is ample evidence that we are all descended from Africans.    Roll Eyes
Science has shown conclusively through DNA that there are indeed separate races. Aboriginals are mixed with Denisovian, Africans have no Neanderthal admixture, Whites do have Neanderthal DNA.


Has it?  Care to point out this research, Rhino?  You know, provide a link to the stuff that proves that "races" actually exist?   I'd be interested to see it.   Roll Eyes
Ive already given you the necassary terms to google it yourself, go for it.


As usual, you present no evidence, just assertion, Rhino.  Sorry, doesn't wash.  Try again.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes
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.. I believe in a good day at the races meself... just saying.... does that make me a racist?  Lips Sealed
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.. I believe in a good day at the races meself... just saying.... does that make me a racist?  Lips Sealed


What make you a racist is referring to people from the Middle East as "sand n1ggers",

You're just going to have to own that.
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mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:49pm:
Amadd wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:47pm:
In my experience, racism (for want of a better word) is completely natural and should be accepted rather than feared.

Birds of a feather flock together.

Studies have shown that infants gravitate towards people of their own features. I have found this to be true also in my own personal experience.

Do we want so much for the time when aboriginals will refer to white people as "our people"?
Forget it! Not gonna happen.

Of course it's completely taboo for a white person to refer to other whites as "our people", because we whites seem to like to piss down our own backs and tell ourselves it's raining.

Get honest. Tell it like it is, to ourselves and others.









I think you are unclear on the meaning of the word 'racism'.

At least i hope you are.


Please explain? I think "racism" means "preference regarding race or skin colour". What does it mean to you?

Most dark skinned people that I know have preference due to skin colour. Is that unusual to you?

Actions not words break down the walls. I have many dark skinned friends that consider me "their bro", and I consider them my bro . Not through empty words, but through actions.

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mothra wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 12:00am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:58pm:
.. I believe in a good day at the races meself... just saying.... does that make me a racist?  Lips Sealed


What make you a racist is referring to people from the Middle East as "sand n1ggers",

You're just going to have to own that.


FD's much more polite. He calls them sand negroes.

And why not? There's absolutely nothing racist about it at all.
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Conversely, how many Aboriginal ancestor can you have and remain still a European?


A good question. I wonder how many gave up claiming to be aboriginal in the past, only to jump back on the bandwagon when special benefits arose from being aboriginal recently.
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It's funny that these imported black people try to goad me with their imagined supremacy in the workplace. They say "where are you now whitey?".

I say, "You're still working for me boy". In two weeks I'm going to spend six months on the best island in the world at your expense black person.
Suck it down and work smacking hard for me boy. I have shares that require tending to. Like I say to all the other childish supremacists.


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Science has shown conclusively through DNA that there are indeed separate races. Aboriginals are mixed with Denisovian, Africans have no Neanderthal admixture, Whites do have Neanderthal DNA.


That is not true. If there was Neanderthal DNA, then white people would not be able to breed with other races of people, such as African or Aboriginal. White people, though, have shown to have had the most evolution of the entire human race in the last 30,000 years.
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UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 2:35am:
Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:12pm:
Conversely, how many Aboriginal ancestor can you have and remain still a European?


A good question. I wonder how many gave up claiming to be aboriginal in the past, only to jump back on the bandwagon when special benefits arose from being aboriginal recently.


Which benefits?

I'm curious.
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It's funny that these imported black people try to goad me with their imagined supremacy in the workplace. They say "where are you now whitey?".

I say, "You're still working for me boy". In two weeks I'm going to spend six months on the best island in the world at your expense black person.



Who's going to be your Man Friday, Amadd?
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i dont think we could say one "race" is superior to another.

but cohorts of people exhibit behaviours which help them climb the "narrow road to success" and this tends to wax and wane.

as an example,  americans in the days of the pilgrim fathers, the days of the war of independance, the years from 1941 to 1946 were definitely "superior" to the modern day 'fat steve" who seeks nothing but to pleasure himself and be "entertained".

similarly aboriginals were strong, powerful and resilient but have now come more to resemble "fat steve".

the 'do-gooders" tend to be the people who scream 'racist' the loudest, but in doing so, they dont help at all (except maybe they get s boost to their ego by identifying with a moral superiority). 

one needs only to look at 2 cohorts of people who are championed by the do-gooders and intellectual elite (the palestinians and the aboriginals) to see that when you dont  put expectations on people to "climb", when you mistake love for allowing people to identify with victimhood and anger and regret and "me,me,me and my sad little story", those people fall straight off the narrow road to success and they go down.

if you are in a racial minority and the do-gooders are trying to "help' you (and i use the word help loosely), then you will be screwed if you accept their help.  the do-gooder does no good, the do gooder offers you a poisoned chalice. throw it back in his/her face
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LOL! Look at all the racists come out with the disclaimer "I'm not a racist ... but", and the seminal favourite, "Some of my best friends are *insert pejorative here*".

Face i lads, you're a bunch of racists. Own it. There are even clubs you can join.


Clubs?

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Is racism encouraged?

well someone keeps feeding Herbert Roll Eyes
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mothra wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 12:00am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:58pm:
.. I believe in a good day at the races meself... just saying.... does that make me a racist?  Lips Sealed


What make you a racist is referring to people from the Middle East as "sand n1ggers",

You're just going to have to own that.



Yeah - but I enjoyed it - rolls well off the tongue... if it makes you happy, we'll make it Kamel Kaffirs, to go with Kangaroo Kaffirs, Kraal Kaffirs, Kokonut Kaffirs.... you get the continental drift...

BTW - you don't do sarcasm, do you?  Besides - Middle Eastern isn't a race.... it's just another form of Gypo.
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Does Mothra believe that words of racist insult are only the province of white folk against The Rest, and that the Chinese and others don't have insulting words for describing white folk?



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Does Mothra believe that words of racist insult are only the province of white folk against The Rest, and that the Chinese and others don't have insulting words for describing white folk?






The word 'gook' is Korean for (stinking) foreigner.... US military personnel simply adopted the word....
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Does Mothra believe that words of racist insult are only the province of white folk against The Rest, and that the Chinese and others don't have insulting words for describing white folk?


Yes ... plain & simple she & others do

It makes them feel better about themselves.

Self loathing takes a toll you know?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2325502/Map-shows-worlds-racist-countrie...
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Yes ... plain & simple she & others do


you've got evidence of this, right?

how pathetic that you have to start making crap up about people to try and prove your point. Someone should probably have told you by now that if you have to do that, your point was probably pretty poor to start with.
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mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:07am:
LOL! Look at all the racists come out with the disclaimer "I'm not a racist ... but", and the seminal favourite, "Some of my best friends are *insert pejorative here*".

Face i lads, you're a bunch of racists. Own it. There are even clubs you can join.


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Do they offer a membership fee discount for pensioners?  Tongue



does calling someone a racist   make the name caller a racist?? Roll Eyes Roll Eyes.. its so handy to shut folks up just call them racists.... the fact the word racists is diminished doesnt matter at all....

I think we live in one of the fairest countries in the world....I would like to think everyone can have an opinion on just about everything  without being called names...if and when you are being really slanderous  then yes you are being racist....in the mean time..!!!!!!

dont bring the meaning of a word down..
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Gnads wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:21am:
Yes ... plain & simple she & others do


you've got evidence of this, right?

how pathetic that you have to start making crap up about people to try and prove your point. Someone should probably have told you by now that if you have to do that, your point was probably pretty poor to start with.


Making it up?

Nah .... it's a label that's thrown about here "ad nauseam"
or should I say " ad hominem" (  Wink )

by Peccar, Mothra, Brian & even yourself.

The same with the use of the weasel word Islamphobe.
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Gnads wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:44am:
John Smith wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:23am:
Gnads wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:21am:
Yes ... plain & simple she & others do


you've got evidence of this, right?

how pathetic that you have to start making crap up about people to try and prove your point. Someone should probably have told you by now that if you have to do that, your point was probably pretty poor to start with.


Making it up?

Nah .... it's a label that's thrown about here "ad nauseam"
or should I say " ad hominem" (  Wink )

by Peccar, Mothra, Brian & even yourself.

The same with the use of the weasel word Islamphobe.



yes, gnads, its very 'lower consciousness"
its just a reaction by these folk who are asleep at the wheel of their own lives to blurt out this label.
there is no thinking to it.
i suppose its about as enlightened as when fat steve , sitting on the couch in a durr state burps or farts.
thats how deep their thought processes are.
i suspect, they get a little hit of dopamine every time they can do it and this helps feed the addiction of this emotional state
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yes, gnads, its very 'lower consciousness"
its just a reaction by these folk who are asleep at the wheel of their own lives to blurt out this label.
there is no thinking to it.
i suppose its about as enlightened as when fat steve , sitting on the couch in a durr state burps or farts.
thats how deep their thought processes are.
i suspect, they get a little hit of dopamine every time they can do it and this helps feed the addiction of this emotional state




hummmmmmmmmm really?...

I pui it down to when you do it/say it.or your own side says is.. its doesnt have half the meaning as when you are receiving it.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

its like name calling in the playground...some folks of course think its a great insult...

well it takes all kinds... Roll Eyes

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Amadd wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 2:39am:
It's funny that these imported black people try to goad me with their imagined supremacy in the workplace. They say "where are you now whitey?".

I say, "You're still working for me boy". In two weeks I'm going to spend six months on the best island in the world at your expense black person.



Who's going to be your Man Friday, Amadd?


A German guy named Fritz.

It's all tongue in cheek in the workplace, but that's not to say that there's no favouritism between races and nationalities.
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Karnal wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 3:28am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 2:35am:
Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:12pm:
Conversely, how many Aboriginal ancestor can you have and remain still a European?


A good question. I wonder how many gave up claiming to be aboriginal in the past, only to jump back on the bandwagon when special benefits arose from being aboriginal recently.


Which benefits?

I'm curious.


More help with welfare; Less expectation on doing job searches; No means testing when it comes to whether they need help during job searches or when they are living with their parents; Free taxi rides (welfare recipients only); Leniency during sentencing regarding violent behaviour; Less police willingness to arrest or prosecute for the same offences that would have white people arrested; Using their race to get people to feel sorry for their causes; Getting exclusive organisations solely for aboriginal benefit; and various other things that are not afforded to non-aboriginal people.

Things like that.
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Science has shown conclusively through DNA that there are indeed separate races. Aboriginals are mixed with Denisovian, Africans have no Neanderthal admixture, Whites do have Neanderthal DNA.


That is not true. If there was Neanderthal DNA, then white people would not be able to breed with other races of people, such as African or Aboriginal. White people, though, have shown to have had the most evolution of the entire human race in the last 30,000 years.
No, I am right and you are wrong. Very wrong. Try a google.
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Gnads wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:44am:
John Smith wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:23am:
Gnads wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:21am:
Yes ... plain & simple she & others do


you've got evidence of this, right?

how pathetic that you have to start making crap up about people to try and prove your point. Someone should probably have told you by now that if you have to do that, your point was probably pretty poor to start with.


Making it up?

Nah .... it's a label that's thrown about here "ad nauseam"
or should I say " ad hominem" (  Wink )

by Peccar, Mothra, Brian & even yourself.

The same with the use of the weasel word Islamphobe.



blah blah blah ... nice try, but you missed by a mile.

Put up a link to either myself, Mothra or Pecca ever saying that that words of racist insult are only the province of white folk against The Rest, and that the Chinese and others don't have insulting words for describing white folk?

after all, that is what you agreed that she 'and others' do.

Gnads wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:21am:
Yes ... plain & simple she & others do



or did you not understand what you were agreeing to?
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aquascoot wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 10:12am:
yes, gnads, its very 'lower consciousness"
its just a reaction by these folk who are asleep at the wheel of their own lives to blurt out this label.
there is no thinking to it.
i suppose its about as enlightened as when fat steve , sitting on the couch in a durr state burps or farts.
thats how deep their thought processes are.
i suspect, they get a little hit of dopamine every time they can do it and this helps feed the addiction of this emotional state


what about labels such as 'beta', 'alpha' or 'a lower consciousness person' etc? is that you in your derrr state?
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Gnads wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:21am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 7:54am:
Does Mothra believe that words of racist insult are only the province of white folk against The Rest, and that the Chinese and others don't have insulting words for describing white folk?


Yes ... plain & simple she & others do

It makes them feel better about themselves.

Self loathing takes a toll you know?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2325502/Map-shows-worlds-racist-countrie...


Good research, Gonads - thanks for that.

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Amadd wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:47pm:
In my experience, racism (for want of a better word) is completely natural and should be accepted rather than feared.

Birds of a feather flock together.

Studies have shown that infants gravitate towards people of their own features. I have found this to be true also in my own personal experience.

Do we want so much for the time when aboriginals will refer to white people as "our people"?
Forget it! Not gonna happen.

Of course it's completely taboo for a white person to refer to other whites as "our people", because we whites seem to like to piss down our own backs and tell ourselves it's raining.

Get honest. Tell it like it is, to ourselves and others.


Tribalism based on ethnic appearance is strong in all cultures.

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Is racism encouraged?

well someone keeps feeding Herbert Roll Eyes


Exactly.

I'm only channeling other people ~ it doesn't come from me personally.
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cods wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:35am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 7:21am:
mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:07am:
LOL! Look at all the racists come out with the disclaimer "I'm not a racist ... but", and the seminal favourite, "Some of my best friends are *insert pejorative here*".

Face i lads, you're a bunch of racists. Own it. There are even clubs you can join.


Clubs?

Do they offer a membership fee discount for pensioners?  Tongue



does calling someone a racist   make the name caller a racist?? Roll Eyes Roll Eyes.. its so handy to shut folks up just call them racists.... the fact the word racists is diminished doesnt matter at all....

I think we live in one of the fairest countries in the world....I would like to think everyone can have an opinion on just about everything  without being called names...if and when you are being really slanderous  then yes you are being racist....in the mean time..!!!!!!

dont bring the meaning of a word down..


I'm an avowed Social Racist/ Tribal Racist and have never made any bones about it, just the same as all those who stick-to-their-own in ethnic and racial ghettoes and enclaves like the Abos, Negroes, Chinese, Vietnamese, Indians, etc etc do who we have here in Sydney.



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Science has shown conclusively through DNA that there are indeed separate races. Aboriginals are mixed with Denisovian, Africans have no Neanderthal admixture, Whites do have Neanderthal DNA.


That is not true. If there was Neanderthal DNA, then white people would not be able to breed with other races of people, such as African or Aboriginal. White people, though, have shown to have had the most evolution of the entire human race in the last 30,000 years.



Really? Evidence please...   Roll Eyes
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Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 8:08am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 7:54am:
Does Mothra believe that words of racist insult are only the province of white folk against The Rest, and that the Chinese and others don't have insulting words for describing white folk?


The word 'gook' is Korean for (stinking) foreigner.... US military personnel simply adopted the word....


While they did, that is not the meaning of the word in Korean which means "nationalist".   Roll Eyes
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Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 3:40pm:
cods wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:35am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 7:21am:
mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:07am:
LOL! Look at all the racists come out with the disclaimer "I'm not a racist ... but", and the seminal favourite, "Some of my best friends are *insert pejorative here*".

Face i lads, you're a bunch of racists. Own it. There are even clubs you can join.


Clubs?

Do they offer a membership fee discount for pensioners?  Tongue



does calling someone a racist   make the name caller a racist?? Roll Eyes Roll Eyes.. its so handy to shut folks up just call them racists.... the fact the word racists is diminished doesnt matter at all....

I think we live in one of the fairest countries in the world....I would like to think everyone can have an opinion on just about everything  without being called names...if and when you are being really slanderous  then yes you are being racist....in the mean time..!!!!!!

dont bring the meaning of a word down..


I'm an avowed Social Racist/ Tribal Racist and have never made any bones about it, just the same as all those who stick-to-their-own in ethnic and racial ghettoes and enclaves like the Abos, Negroes, Chinese, Vietnamese, Indians, etc etc do who we have here in Sydney.


Never been to old Elizabeth near Adelaide, have you, Herbie?  Tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes
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Reply #134 - Apr 18th, 2017 at 5:29pm
 
mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:07pm:
Valkie wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 5:30pm:
mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:07am:
LOL! Look at all the racists come out with the disclaimer "I'm not a racist ... but", and the seminal favourite, "Some of my best friends are *insert pejorative here*".

Face i lads, you're a bunch of racists. Own it. There are even clubs you can join.


The CULT is not a race dimwhit, its a barbaric,  pedophile infested, brutal regimen of self confessed retards, criminals, murderers and parasites.

If someone is antisematic, they are not racist.

If someone dislikes, Christians, they are not racist

If someone hates sewage, like islam.....they are not racist

It does not matter how many times you say it, it still aint true.....fool


Now repeat after me.
To ...be...a...race...it ...must....be ...a ...race.

To...be...a ...racist....you...have...to ....hate ....a ....race.

Islam....is ....not.....a....race, ....it ....is....simply.....a.....cult



Valkie i was talking about bog-standard racism, not Islamophobia. Don't you feel just a little but silly now?

You know, the kind of racism you yourself exhibit when you refer to Indonesians as "monkeys".


No, not silly at all if you cant enunciate adequately

As for indonesians, it is an accurate description, what is the problem?
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mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:11pm:
And your image is every bit as wrong, bigotted  and preposterous as you are


On this point I find I must agree.

Regardless of their differences in attractiveness,  both women are human beings.

I would say with the same intellegence, except that we all know thats not true

Blonds really are less intellegent.
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Brian Ross wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 4:33pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 8:08am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 7:54am:
Does Mothra believe that words of racist insult are only the province of white folk against The Rest, and that the Chinese and others don't have insulting words for describing white folk?


The word 'gook' is Korean for (stinking) foreigner.... US military personnel simply adopted the word....


While they did, that is not the meaning of the word in Korean which means "nationalist".   Roll Eyes



Not what I heard...

"a foreigner, especially a person of SE Asian descent."  I guess that's just the way it has developed...

"The word was used by U.S. Marines in the early 20th century;[1][2] the earliest written example is dated 1920.[3]

Folk etymology suggests that during the Korean War, young Korean children would point at U.S. soldiers and shout in Korean 미국 (Miguk, “America”). Soldiers heard the word as “mee gook”, as if the children were defining themselves as “gooks”. The soldiers proceeded to use that term to refer to the Koreans. The word 국 (國, guk) itself simply means “country”. This explanation ignores the fact that there are many examples of the word's use that pre-date the Korean War."
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THE LEAST RACIALLY TOLERANT COUNTRIES
40% + (of individuals surveyed would not want a person of another race as a neighbour)
India, Jordan
30 - 39.9%
Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Vietnam, Indonesia, South Korea
20 - 39.9% 
France, Turkey, Bulgaria, Algeria, Morocco, Mali, Zambia, Thailand, Malaysia, The Philippines, Bangladesh, Hong Kong



THE MOST TOLERANT COUNTRIES
0 to 4.9%
United States, Canada, Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, Guatemala, Britain, Sweden, Norway, Latvia, Australia, New Zealand

5 - 9.9%
Chile, Peru, Mexico, Spain, Germany, Belgium, Belarus, Croatia, Japan, Pakistan, South Africa

10 - 14.9%Finland, Poland, Ukraine, Italy, Greece, Czech Republic, Slovakia
15 - 19.9% Venezuela, Hungary, Serbia, Romania, Macedonia, Ethiopia, Uganda, Tanzania, Zimbabwe, Russia, China
Source: World Values Survey


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I have to admit I find these notions a bit hard to believe... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll EyesValkie wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 5:32pm:
mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:11pm:
And your image is every bit as wrong, bigotted  and preposterous as you are


On this point I find I must agree.

Regardless of their differences in attractiveness,  both women are human beings.

I would say with the same intellegence, except that we all know thats not true

Blonds really are less intellegent.




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Brian Ross wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 4:28pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 2:41am:
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Science has shown conclusively through DNA that there are indeed separate races. Aboriginals are mixed with Denisovian, Africans have no Neanderthal admixture, Whites do have Neanderthal DNA.


That is not true. If there was Neanderthal DNA, then white people would not be able to breed with other races of people, such as African or Aboriginal. White people, though, have shown to have had the most evolution of the entire human race in the last 30,000 years.



Really? Evidence please...   Roll Eyes
Already done, more than once. Either search my posts or search google. Its simple enough, type Denisovian and press search. Im not going to look for and post over and over the same links to something which has been already been conclusively proven a number of times because someone  is too lazy to do research themselves, if you cant then better to stay out of a conversation which is clearly above your head and academic ability.
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I think this thread is unclear as to its agenda.

Racism exists, in many cases either unintentionally, accidental or without them actually knowing they were racist.

People who call and play the racism card often "percieve" racism where there was none or none intended.

Which begs the question, (is it racist if the person just doesn't realise he/she is being "racist"?)

Now, I have a preference for redheads, preferaby white, not because Im racist, but because I like redheads and I prefer a particular facial construct.
The broad noses and large lips in some African females is not attractive to me.

However, A good friend of mine is married to an extreemly attractive African woman, her facial construct is the way I like it and her hair is almost red, so obviously its not the colour that is the issue.

But what this thread is about is justification of labeling those with issue with the CULT as racist.
Which they are not.

It is however right and just to be "selective" with who I dislike based on the things a particular group stands for, does, engages in or promotes.
This is not racism.....this is good sense.
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cods wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 5:45pm:
THE LEAST RACIALLY TOLERANT COUNTRIES
40% + (of individuals surveyed would not want a person of another race as a neighbour)
India, Jordan
30 - 39.9%
Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Vietnam, Indonesia, South Korea
20 - 39.9% 
France, Turkey, Bulgaria, Algeria, Morocco, Mali, Zambia, Thailand, Malaysia, The Philippines, Bangladesh, Hong Kong



THE MOST TOLERANT COUNTRIES
0 to 4.9%
United States, Canada, Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, Guatemala, Britain, Sweden, Norway, Latvia, Australia, New Zealand

5 - 9.9%
Chile, Peru, Mexico, Spain, Germany, Belgium, Belarus, Croatia, Japan, Pakistan, South Africa

10 - 14.9%Finland, Poland, Ukraine, Italy, Greece, Czech Republic, Slovakia
15 - 19.9% Venezuela, Hungary, Serbia, Romania, Macedonia, Ethiopia, Uganda, Tanzania, Zimbabwe, Russia, China
Source: World Values Survey


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I have to admit I find these notions a bit hard to believe... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll EyesValkie wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 5:32pm:
mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:11pm:
And your image is every bit as wrong, bigotted  and preposterous as you are


On this point I find I must agree.

Regardless of their differences in attractiveness,  both women are human beings.

I would say with the same intellegence, except that we all know thats not true

Blonds really are less intellegent.




you are looking for a smack in the head valkie.


Why.......What I do Now?????????
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Valkie wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 5:48pm:
I think this thread is unclear as to its agenda.

Racism exists, in many cases either unintentionally, accidental or without them actually knowing they were racist.

People who call and play the racism card often "percieve" racism where there was none or none intended.

Which begs the question, (is it racist if the person just doesn't realise he/she is being "racist"?)

Now, I have a preference for redheads, preferaby white, not because Im racist, but because I like redheads and I prefer a particular facial construct.
The broad noses and large lips in some African females is not attractive to me.

However, A good friend of mine is married to an extreemly attractive African woman, her facial construct is the way I like it and her hair is almost red, so obviously its not the colour that is the issue.

But what this thread is about is justification of labeling those with issue with the CULT as racist.
Which they are not.

It is however right and just to be "selective" with who I dislike based on the things a particular group stands for, does, engages in or promotes.
This is not racism.....this is good sense.



it is usually only an opinion...which for the most part is valueless...ask yourself  if you were on a list for a transplant operation a matter of life or death,.  would you stipulate a list of people you would never accept a donation from....when I see someone who had dialysis 3 times a week....I doubt any of those so called preferences would take precedence..

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cods wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 5:45pm:
THE LEAST RACIALLY TOLERANT COUNTRIES
40% + (of individuals surveyed would not want a person of another race as a neighbour)
India, Jordan
30 - 39.9%
Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Vietnam, Indonesia, South Korea
20 - 39.9% 
France, Turkey, Bulgaria, Algeria, Morocco, Mali, Zambia, Thailand, Malaysia, The Philippines, Bangladesh, Hong Kong



THE MOST TOLERANT COUNTRIES
0 to 4.9%
United States, Canada, Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, Guatemala, Britain, Sweden, Norway, Latvia, Australia, New Zealand

5 - 9.9%
Chile, Peru, Mexico, Spain, Germany, Belgium, Belarus, Croatia, Japan, Pakistan, South Africa

10 - 14.9%Finland, Poland, Ukraine, Italy, Greece, Czech Republic, Slovakia
15 - 19.9% Venezuela, Hungary, Serbia, Romania, Macedonia, Ethiopia, Uganda, Tanzania, Zimbabwe, Russia, China
Source: World Values Survey


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I have to admit I find these notions a bit hard to believe... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll EyesValkie wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 5:32pm:
mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:11pm:
And your image is every bit as wrong, bigotted  and preposterous as you are


On this point I find I must agree.

Regardless of their differences in attractiveness,  both women are human beings.

I would say with the same intellegence, except that we all know thats not true

Blonds really are less intellegent.




you are looking for a smack in the head valkie.


Why.......What I do Now?????????



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Karnal wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 3:28am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 2:35am:
Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:12pm:
Conversely, how many Aboriginal ancestor can you have and remain still a European?


A good question. I wonder how many gave up claiming to be aboriginal in the past, only to jump back on the bandwagon when special benefits arose from being aboriginal recently.


Which benefits?

I'm curious.
How about Aboriginal only jobs within the public service for starters. Abo health service, Abo legal service, the list is almost endless. If we didnt duplicate these services specially for Abos the country would be better off by 6 billion a year.
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cods wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 5:56pm:
Valkie wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 5:48pm:
I think this thread is unclear as to its agenda.

Racism exists, in many cases either unintentionally, accidental or without them actually knowing they were racist.

People who call and play the racism card often "percieve" racism where there was none or none intended.

Which begs the question, (is it racist if the person just doesn't realise he/she is being "racist"?)

Now, I have a preference for redheads, preferaby white, not because Im racist, but because I like redheads and I prefer a particular facial construct.
The broad noses and large lips in some African females is not attractive to me.

However, A good friend of mine is married to an extreemly attractive African woman, her facial construct is the way I like it and her hair is almost red, so obviously its not the colour that is the issue.

But what this thread is about is justification of labeling those with issue with the CULT as racist.
Which they are not.

It is however right and just to be "selective" with who I dislike based on the things a particular group stands for, does, engages in or promotes.
This is not racism.....this is good sense.



it is usually only an opinion...which for the most part is valueless...ask yourself  if you were on a list for a transplant operation a matter of life or death,.  would you stipulate a list of people you would never accept a donation from....when I see someone who had dialysis 3 times a week....I doubt any of those so called preferences would take precedence..

we live sometimes in a sad world where all we do is judge others... Sad Sad
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I have stipulated on my donor card a very specific requirement.

No politicians........

But seriously, I refuse to be a donor because I dont trust the grubberment.
If a polly or a rich bloke needed an organ, and I was not quite dead, I can see them knocking me over so they could be fixed up.

I do however give blood regularly.
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Brian Ross wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 4:39pm:
Never been to old Elizabeth near Adelaide, have you, Herbie?  Tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes


Tribal?

I've just been explaining that people are tribal, Brian. Try to keep awake.
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Reply #146 - Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:04pm
 
mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:49pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:47pm:
As I said, it's not about individuals but populations.

Africans are fleeing other Africans after 60 years of African independence. And they are fleeing to their old colonial masters in Europe.

It's a one way movement of Africans fleeing the hellholes Africans have created.

Same with Arabs and Muslims. No Europeans are trying to get to the 'Muslims lands' while th Muslims are desperate to get the bloody hell away from other murderous, oppressive, exploitative Muslims.

And they ALL want to go to the old colonial oppressors in Europe!!!!!!!  They have been given independence and self-rule an they have f  Vcked it up like they have done with everything else. That's their culture.  There is simply nothing in African or Muslim Arab culture that improves anything - that's why thy themselves are fleeing it.  If they were not inferior cultures they wouldn't be fleeing themselves, would they?  They would stay and build it and make the most of it.

But they know it's all in vain, it's all sh!te, so they run away, leaving their second class women behind. And once in Europe, they want sharia and ummah.




There's so much wrong with that, i have no idea where to start.



Don't we know it, petal, don't we know it!

You have been challenged and you are not used to it, sweetheart. It must be such a shock to find yourself challenged. You snowflakes are not used to needing to actually explain your stupidity.


I can't believe you would be so stereotypically idiotic and discombobulated.  You are a parody of your idiotic lefty ignorant self without realising it. 

You are so thick and lack self-awareness to such a great extent that I feel sorry for you. You ARE stupid and unmoored beyond belief.

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Reply #147 - Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:12pm
 
mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:32pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:00pm:
Some races are inferior, some are superior.

Not every member of each is superior or inferior but as far as statistics can say, the differences are obvious across populations.

Unless, of course, if races do not exist and Africans, Aborigines, Arabs, Islanders etc are mysteriously and inexplicably inferior to Europeans for some other reason.





I see no evidence of you being "superior" to anyone at all, Frank.

Cheeses, you are a colossal thicko.
Read out loud the highlighted bits, retard.

You may be a godawful lefty nice person but you ARE permitted to think for yourself, you ARE permitted to consider the context, the words, intention and generally you ARE permitted to consider a point before making a godawful f Vcking joke of yourself by responding to what nobody actually said.

In short - don't be such a f Vcking mindless, stupid, reflexive idiot.

I hope this helps. I know it won't but what do you have if you don't have hope???




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Frank wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:04pm:
mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:49pm:
There's so much wrong with that, i have no idea where to start.



Don't we know it, petal, don't we know it!


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cods wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 5:56pm:
Valkie wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 5:48pm:
I think this thread is unclear as to its agenda.

Racism exists, in many cases either unintentionally, accidental or without them actually knowing they were racist.

People who call and play the racism card often "percieve" racism where there was none or none intended.

Which begs the question, (is it racist if the person just doesn't realise he/she is being "racist"?)

Now, I have a preference for redheads, preferaby white, not because Im racist, but because I like redheads and I prefer a particular facial construct.
The broad noses and large lips in some African females is not attractive to me.

However, A good friend of mine is married to an extreemly attractive African woman, her facial construct is the way I like it and her hair is almost red, so obviously its not the colour that is the issue.

But what this thread is about is justification of labeling those with issue with the CULT as racist.
Which they are not.

It is however right and just to be "selective" with who I dislike based on the things a particular group stands for, does, engages in or promotes.
This is not racism.....this is good sense.



it is usually only an opinion...which for the most part is valueless...ask yourself  if you were on a list for a transplant operation a matter of life or death,.  would you stipulate a list of people you would never accept a donation from....when I see someone who had dialysis 3 times a week....I doubt any of those so called preferences would take precedence..

we live sometimes in a sad world where all we do is judge others... Sad Sad


I pray I never have to makeva choice or have the need.
I would hate to think that my life was a result of someone elses death
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Rhino wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 5:48pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 4:28pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 2:41am:
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Science has shown conclusively through DNA that there are indeed separate races. Aboriginals are mixed with Denisovian, Africans have no Neanderthal admixture, Whites do have Neanderthal DNA.


That is not true. If there was Neanderthal DNA, then white people would not be able to breed with other races of people, such as African or Aboriginal. White people, though, have shown to have had the most evolution of the entire human race in the last 30,000 years.



Really? Evidence please...   Roll Eyes
Already done, more than once. Either search my posts or search google. Its simple enough, type Denisovian and press search. Im not going to look for and post over and over the same links to something which has been already been conclusively proven a number of times because someone  is too lazy to do research themselves, if you cant then better to stay out of a conversation which is clearly above your head and academic ability.


Tsk, tsk, Rhino. you misunderstand what I am asking about.  I am asking about your claim that "White people, though, have shown to have had the most evolution of the entire human race in the last 30,000 years."   What evidence do you have about that?  Of course, you'll duck the question.   I expect that but who knows, perhaps you might actually produce something for a change...    Roll Eyes
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Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 8:00pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 4:39pm:
Never been to old Elizabeth near Adelaide, have you, Herbie?  Tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes


Tribal?

I've just been explaining that people are tribal, Brian. Try to keep awake.


Yet you didn't name your own "race", did you, Herbie?  Tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes
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Valkie wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 5:48pm:
I think this thread is unclear as to its agenda.

Racism exists, in many cases either unintentionally, accidental or without them actually knowing they were racist.

People who call and play the racism card often "percieve" racism where there was none or none intended.

Which begs the question, (is it racist if the person just doesn't realise he/she is being "racist"?)

Now, I have a preference for redheads, preferaby white, not because Im racist, but because I like redheads and I prefer a particular facial construct.
The broad noses and large lips in some African females is not attractive to me.

However, A good friend of mine is married to an extreemly attractive African woman, her facial construct is the way I like it and her hair is almost red, so obviously its not the colour that is the issue.

But what this thread is about is justification of labeling those with issue with the CULT as racist.
Which they are not.

It is however right and just to be "selective" with who I dislike based on the things a particular group stands for, does, engages in or promotes.
This is not racism.....this is good sense.


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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Move along folks, move along, just some racism, you've read it all before.    Roll Eyes
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Reply #153 - Apr 19th, 2017 at 1:57am
 
Frank wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:12pm:
mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:32pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:00pm:
Some races are inferior, some are superior.

Not every member of each is superior or inferior but as far as statistics can say, the differences are obvious across populations.

Unless, of course, if races do not exist and Africans, Aborigines, Arabs, Islanders etc are mysteriously and inexplicably inferior to Europeans for some other reason.





I see no evidence of you being "superior" to anyone at all, Frank.

Cheeses, you are a colossal thicko.
Read out loud the highlighted bits, retard.

You may be a godawful lefty nice person but you ARE permitted to think for yourself, you ARE permitted to consider the context, the words, intention and generally you ARE permitted to consider a point before making a godawful f Vcking joke of yourself by responding to what nobody actually said.

In short - don't be such a f Vcking mindless, stupid, reflexive idiot.

I hope this helps. I know it won't but what do you have if you don't have hope???






Yes, Mother, you listen to Frank. I have, so I know.

By context, words and intention, Frank means he wants to ban the tinted races from the beloved country he immigrated to. You know, the one that's inconveniently full of all these tinted races.

But don't you worry, Frank has a plan. He's joining up with all these other immigrants to put a stop to it. Enough's enough. Beards, headscarves, tintedness, it's all intolerable and simply must go. Frank can't stand the sight of them.

Otherwise Frank will be forced to move back to the old country, with all the other New Australians. Herbie, Bogie, the Mechanic, Sprintcyclist, poor Cods.

And where would we all be then?
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Reply #154 - Apr 19th, 2017 at 2:04am
 
Rhino wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 6:09pm:
Karnal wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 3:28am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 2:35am:
Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:12pm:
Conversely, how many Aboriginal ancestor can you have and remain still a European?


A good question. I wonder how many gave up claiming to be aboriginal in the past, only to jump back on the bandwagon when special benefits arose from being aboriginal recently.


Which benefits?

I'm curious.
How about Aboriginal only jobs within the public service for starters. Abo health service, Abo legal service, the list is almost endless. If we didnt duplicate these services specially for Abos the country would be better off by 6 billion a year.


Is Abos-only jobs a benefit? You have to do a job.

Benefits is getting something for nothing. Medical centres and legal aid are provided to the rest of the population too.

Thanks for answering, Rhino, but I'm still curious.
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UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 12:14pm:
More help with welfare; Less expectation on doing job searches; No means testing when it comes to whether they need help during job searches or when they are living with their parents; Free taxi rides (welfare recipients only); Leniency during sentencing regarding violent behaviour; Less police willingness to arrest or prosecute for the same offences that would have white people arrested; Using their race to get people to feel sorry for their causes; Getting exclusive organisations solely for aboriginal benefit; and various other things that are not afforded to non-aboriginal people.

Things like that.


And the rest.

At the time of the Redfern Riots it was discovered that no less than 100 charity shops, agencies, and organisations were clustered in and around that aboriginal ghetto in Sydney.

And then the police were ordered not to advance into the ghetto and bang heads to make arrests lest this look too much like White Supremacist crackers givin' them niggars a hard time. 

Aborigines are Australia's Sacred Cows - allowed various concessions way beyond the mainstream, with the main one being no obligation to look for work in order to receive the dole.

Urban Medical Centres that cater only to aborigines is another Special Consideration funded by the taxpayers of Australia.
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Reply #156 - Apr 19th, 2017 at 6:51am
 
Valkie wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 5:32pm:
mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:11pm:
And your image is every bit as wrong, bigotted  and preposterous as you are


On this point I find I must agree.

Regardless of their differences in attractiveness,  both women are human beings.

I would say with the same intellegence, except that we all know thats not true

Blonds really are less intellegent.


there is a reason why blondes are less intelligent.

blondes were in vogue as the more sexually desirable cohort.

males (in their foolishness) tended to buy gifts and free meals for blondes and blondes (in their foolishness ) tended to accept these 'freebies".

but remember when i said "you NEVER want a dollar you didnt earn"?

well when you get freebies, you get lazy and laziness and cruising eventually become an addiction and now you are screwed by your own addiction to laziness (lower consciousness).

the pimpley faced chinese girl with black hair and less curves does not have to carry the burden of this 'welfare" from men.
she has the evolutionary blow torch applied to her every day.
and she will study hard, hit the library.
she will have to go into contribution to get attention.
she will develop resilience , bust thru barriers, 1000's of reference experiences where she could have been a cry baby but instead she chose to use this injustice to fuel an upward spiral.

and when blondie hits 45 , she will get some plastic surgery and become a bit of a joke and chinese girl will drive past in her merc and have a wry smile.

Do you still think getting freebies is good for you?

Do you still think its good to have it easy? Wink Wink
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Reply #157 - Apr 19th, 2017 at 1:30pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 19th, 2017 at 5:22am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 12:14pm:
More help with welfare; Less expectation on doing job searches; No means testing when it comes to whether they need help during job searches or when they are living with their parents; Free taxi rides (welfare recipients only); Leniency during sentencing regarding violent behaviour; Less police willingness to arrest or prosecute for the same offences that would have white people arrested; Using their race to get people to feel sorry for their causes; Getting exclusive organisations solely for aboriginal benefit; and various other things that are not afforded to non-aboriginal people.

Things like that.


And the rest.

At the time of the Redfern Riots it was discovered that no less than 100 charity shops, agencies, and organisations were clustered in and around that aboriginal ghetto in Sydney.

And then the police were ordered not to advance into the ghetto and bang heads to make arrests lest this look too much like White Supremacist crackers givin' them niggars a hard time. 

Aborigines are Australia's Sacred Cows - allowed various concessions way beyond the mainstream, with the main one being no obligation to look for work in order to receive the dole.

Urban Medical Centres that cater only to aborigines is another Special Consideration funded by the taxpayers of Australia.


Charity shops aren't government benefits either, Herbie. Nor is the police using negotiation to avoid a riot.

Would anyone else care to have a stab? What benefits do Boongs get that Whitey doesn't?
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Reply #158 - Apr 19th, 2017 at 1:37pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 19th, 2017 at 5:22am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 12:14pm:
More help with welfare; Less expectation on doing job searches; No means testing when it comes to whether they need help during job searches or when they are living with their parents; Free taxi rides (welfare recipients only); Leniency during sentencing regarding violent behaviour; Less police willingness to arrest or prosecute for the same offences that would have white people arrested; Using their race to get people to feel sorry for their causes; Getting exclusive organisations solely for aboriginal benefit; and various other things that are not afforded to non-aboriginal people.

Things like that.


And the rest.

At the time of the Redfern Riots it was discovered that no less than 100 charity shops, agencies, and organisations were clustered in and around that aboriginal ghetto in Sydney.

And then the police were ordered not to advance into the ghetto and bang heads to make arrests lest this look too much like White Supremacist crackers givin' them niggars a hard time. 

Aborigines are Australia's Sacred Cows - allowed various concessions way beyond the mainstream, with the main one being no obligation to look for work in order to receive the dole.

Urban Medical Centres that cater only to aborigines is another Special Consideration funded by the taxpayers of Australia.



I'd have to say, in all fairness, that most Aboriginals live, by past forced eviction, in areas where the work is very hard to find, and urban medical centres cater to those who live nearby - Aboriginal or not.

What I like to see is some of the professionals in those places being Aboriginal, up to and including doctors.

It's not as simple as it sounds at first glance, Herb.
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Reply #159 - Apr 19th, 2017 at 1:37pm
 
Karnal wrote on Apr 19th, 2017 at 1:30pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 19th, 2017 at 5:22am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 12:14pm:
More help with welfare; Less expectation on doing job searches; No means testing when it comes to whether they need help during job searches or when they are living with their parents; Free taxi rides (welfare recipients only); Leniency during sentencing regarding violent behaviour; Less police willingness to arrest or prosecute for the same offences that would have white people arrested; Using their race to get people to feel sorry for their causes; Getting exclusive organisations solely for aboriginal benefit; and various other things that are not afforded to non-aboriginal people.

Things like that.


And the rest.

At the time of the Redfern Riots it was discovered that no less than 100 charity shops, agencies, and organisations were clustered in and around that aboriginal ghetto in Sydney.

And then the police were ordered not to advance into the ghetto and bang heads to make arrests lest this look too much like White Supremacist crackers givin' them niggars a hard time. 

Aborigines are Australia's Sacred Cows - allowed various concessions way beyond the mainstream, with the main one being no obligation to look for work in order to receive the dole.

Urban Medical Centres that cater only to aborigines is another Special Consideration funded by the taxpayers of Australia.


Charity shops aren't government benefits either, Herbie. Nor is the police using negotiation to avoid a riot.

Would anyone else care to have a stab? What benefits do Boongs get that Whitey doesn't?



Free access to sacred sites?
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Reply #160 - Apr 19th, 2017 at 1:39pm
 
Karnal wrote on Apr 19th, 2017 at 2:04am:
Rhino wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 6:09pm:
Karnal wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 3:28am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 2:35am:
Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:12pm:
Conversely, how many Aboriginal ancestor can you have and remain still a European?


A good question. I wonder how many gave up claiming to be aboriginal in the past, only to jump back on the bandwagon when special benefits arose from being aboriginal recently.


Which benefits?

I'm curious.
How about Aboriginal only jobs within the public service for starters. Abo health service, Abo legal service, the list is almost endless. If we didnt duplicate these services specially for Abos the country would be better off by 6 billion a year.


Is Abos-only jobs a benefit?
You have to do a job.

Benefits is getting something for nothing. Medical centres and legal aid are provided to the rest of the population too.

Thanks for answering, Rhino, but I'm still curious.


Not normally - such jobs are specifically designed to meet an Aboriginal need and are culturally better handled by an Aboriginal - you still need the qualifications etc to do the job.
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Reply #161 - Apr 19th, 2017 at 2:05pm
 
Karnal wrote on Apr 19th, 2017 at 1:30pm:
Charity shops aren't government benefits either, Herbie.


Oh yes they are when the goods are paid for from cradle-to-grave government benefits.


Karnal wrote on Apr 19th, 2017 at 1:30pm:
Nor is the police using negotiation to avoid a riot'.



"... to avoid a riot".


The BBC Lefty who was reporting this Blacks on the Rampage event said "the riot police could do little" .... which was utter baloney and a case of deliberate misreporting.

For 9 hours the line of Riot Police were ordered not to advance or respond in any way.




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Oh yes they are when the goods are paid for from cradle-to-grave government benefits.


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Charity shops aren't government benefits either, Herbie. 

 
Sure they are, Abos are given vouchers to spend in these shops.
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Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 19th, 2017 at 2:05pm:
Oh yes they are when the goods are paid for from cradle-to-grave government benefits.


what a load of rubbish.
You see, wrong again. How many times you want to be owned in 1 day ?
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Karnal wrote on Apr 19th, 2017 at 1:30pm:

Charity shops aren't government benefits either, Herbie. 

 
Sure they are, Abos are given vouchers to spend in these shops.


By the government?
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Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 19th, 2017 at 2:05pm:
Karnal wrote on Apr 19th, 2017 at 1:30pm:
Charity shops aren't government benefits either, Herbie.


Oh yes they are when the goods are paid for from cradle-to-grave government benefits.


Karnal wrote on Apr 19th, 2017 at 1:30pm:
Nor is the police using negotiation to avoid a riot'.



"... to avoid a riot".


The BBC Lefty who was reporting this Blacks on the Rampage event said "the riot police could do little" .... which was utter baloney and a case of deliberate misreporting.

For 9 hours the line of Riot Police were ordered not to advance or respond in any way.






An example of modern policing. Police don't like to send the riot squad in against football hooligans these days either.

I'm still curious. How is the police response to threats against public order a government benefit?

And what specific cradle to the grave government benefits are only available to Darkie?
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Brian Ross wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 4:28pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 2:41am:
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Science has shown conclusively through DNA that there are indeed separate races. Aboriginals are mixed with Denisovian, Africans have no Neanderthal admixture, Whites do have Neanderthal DNA.


That is not true. If there was Neanderthal DNA, then white people would not be able to breed with other races of people, such as African or Aboriginal. White people, though, have shown to have had the most evolution of the entire human race in the last 30,000 years.


Really? Evidence please...   Roll Eyes


You should take Rhino's advice and google it. Neanderthals died off long ago, and homosapiens have been around for hundreds of thousands of years. Evolving throughout Europe as the surroundings change and force the people's genetics to adapt to the climate.

700 years ago, Europeans developed an immune system that could withstand what people in other regions today would struggle to overcome.
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Science has shown conclusively through DNA that there are indeed separate races. Aboriginals are mixed with Denisovian, Africans have no Neanderthal admixture, Whites do have Neanderthal DNA.


That is not true. If there was Neanderthal DNA, then white people would not be able to breed with other races of people, such as African or Aboriginal. White people, though, have shown to have had the most evolution of the entire human race in the last 30,000 years.


Really? Evidence please...   Roll Eyes


You should take Rhino's advice and google it. Neanderthals died off long ago, and homosapiens have been around for hundreds of thousands of years. Evolving throughout Europe as the surroundings change and force the people's genetics to adapt to the climate.

700 years ago, Europeans developed an immune system that could withstand what people in other regions today would struggle to overcome.


Want to bet on that?

I remember travelling through India many years ago when the passenger on the train beside me noticed me watching some kids in a paddy field.  "If you drank that water like they are, you'd be dead in a day or two."   Their resistance is many times higher to diseases we have all but eliminated from our societies.  Disease resistance is evolutionary but on a micro-scale, not the macro which is what is being discussed here.   Individuals develop it, societies develop it but they also lose it once the disease is eliminated from the environment.

No one has developed an evolutionary resistance to Plague, to Rabies, to Smallpox, etc. UnSubRocky.   Vaccination has helped but it is an artificial resistance, introduced artificially into our species from outside.    Today we are facing the anti-Vaxxers who want to destroy that.

800 years ago, the environment was dirty, unhygienic and rife with diseases we have largely eliminated from our purvey.  We have cleaned up our homes, our workplaces and ourselves.   It has had little if anything to do with "evolution" as Darwin defined it.    Roll Eyes
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Strap yourselves in for a long read...

Ok... flap me...

So I only just stumbled upon this thread and I had no idea my honest question to the mods would spark this.

To start I will try to make my position on the matter clear.  We are a progressive society and as such we should not be controlling ideas or thoughts.  Debate is important and we need informed debate if we're ever going to continue to advance as a people, not just Australians but the Human Race in general.  Not to drag things off topic but some of the PC culture by the perpetually butthurt in universities etc is just ridiculous.

That said, there is a point in debate and exchanging of ideas where language and context starts to put an end to what would be considered debate and the protections of such end.

Now I've just finished reading all the posts in this thread and at least my original intention for asking the question wasn't to spark this sort of "debate" but more so to get a better understanding of these boards.  I had wondered if I had stumbled onto a place on the internet where racism is condoned and promoted, because rules aside, that's what this place seems like.  It was an honest question to the mods.

As I said, I’ve just finished reading this thread and boy did this degrade and fast...

It seems this thread has attracted those who get angry when they're called a racist because they use racial slurs or people misrepresent their hatred and bigotry towards a certain religious followers as racism.

Then they go on to play some sort of pseudo intellectual thought experiment to legitimise their hate by claiming there is only a "human race" therefore one can’t be a “racist” and Islam is not a race, therefore I can say and do what I like and I'm not a racist.

Then there are people saying they want to have sex with women of another race so they can't be racist, while using racial slurs in the same post?  There are so many things wrong with that I don't even know where to begin...

How warped are you bloody people..!?

All the people getting triggered and trying to defend themselves or laughing of all the times they've been called a racist, you can't honestly think you're not a acist right?  Sure, there are some people that throw that label around all too often that it loses all meaning, but the language, the intent and the context of how many of the people in this thread post, it’s smacking racist as hell!

Like you're not that deep into the echo chamber with the people you surround yourself with that you're so racist you can't even see it?

How bloody stupid or inbred are you people!?

I’m not going to address everything because I’ll get enough hate as it is, and to be honest there is just far too much going on, but,

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It's funny that these imported black people try to goad me with their imagined supremacy in the workplace. They say "where are you now whitey?".

I say, "You're still working for me boy". In two weeks I'm going to spend six months on the best island in the world at your expense black person.
Suck it down and work smacking hard for me boy. I have shares that require tending to. Like I say to all the other childish supremacists.


Fighting racism with racism, that's racist...

Valkie wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 5:29pm:
mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:07pm:
Valkie wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 5:30pm:
Now repeat after me.
To ...be...a...race...it ...must....be ...a ...race.

To...be...a ...racist....you...have...to ....hate ....a ....race.

Islam....is ....not.....a....race, ....it ....is....simply.....a.....cult


Valkie i was talking about bog-standard racism, not Islamophobia. Don't you feel just a little but silly now?

You know, the kind of racism you yourself exhibit when you refer to Indonesians as "monkeys".


No, not silly at all if you cant enunciate adequately

As for indonesians, it is an accurate description, what is the problem?


Being oblivious to your own racism or not realising you’re using racial slurs is no excuse Val.

Valkie wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 5:48pm:
But what this thread is about is justification of labeling those with issue with the CULT as racist.


That certainly wasn’t my original intent with asking the question, but it seems to be the MO for most people to excuse their hate and bigotry around here.  Classic deflection.

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there is a reason why blondes are less intelligent.


Scoot, you’re one of the most messed up people on here with the most bizarre world views I’ve encountered in all my years that I’m just going to give you a wide berth here…  I’ve heard enough about alpha males and your take on women.  It does however point to some serious issues that I know the thought of seeking help is what a “fat steve” would do, but before you neck yourself when you can no longer cut it being such a manly man and all, please get help.
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Frank wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:35pm:
What is the difference between races, then, turd? And why is it racist to notice them, if they exist,  stinker?

You reveal yourself to be completely out of your depth the moment you utter anything, turd.


You're trying to use science you don't understand to give you an excuse to hate on differing ethnic groups.  I think you've misjudged who is out of their depth

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I work with every race imaginable. I'm working with a curryshitter client on Tuesday.....top bloke.  I eat in Muslim restaurants,  Ive rooted women from just about every race and even worked in a muzzo country ffs!


I’m not racist, but “curryshitter”, “Muzzo” etc etc…  Good one.  Nice approach to women to.

I’ve lived and worked for many year in Singapore.  They have a very diverse people with different ethnicities, religions and hierarchy.  I’ve seen the good and the bad, but as a white man, an Australian white man some more, I was not in the “controlling group”.  Most of my fellow Australians that I encountered there gave us a terrible name.  Our reputation, minus that of our armed service men and women (when on duty at least) isn’t worth much due to our own actions abroad.

Here at home, we can treat other like poo, marginalise and publicly hate on people of different ethnic backgrounds or faiths often sparked by or at least fueled by the media and unless someone has a camera we generally get away with it.  Try that in somewhere like Singapore and you’re in trouble.  There are too many Australians that are mistaken into to thinking far to highly of ourselves. 

And I’m not trying to be unAustralian or “check your privilege” nonsense, and like any diverse culture there are ways, there are thing we do better, but it’s not everything and we all have a lot to learn. 

To those who have the option, I would love to see almost a requirement that before someone starts University or TAFE/apprenticeship, they take a gap year and live and work abroad, especially in some of our neighbouring countries in SE Asia. 

Australia is at risk of becoming a giant backwards echo chamber watching the world progress while we are so easily manipulated into worrying about head scarves or Halal certification on Vegemite or Easter Eggs…

There is no point in being racist for the sake of it, just like there is no point in calling anyone you don’t agree with when the topic involves Islam or an ethnic group a racist, but both happens in the real world and it certainly happens here too.

I live in Queensland, the further north and inland you go, the less informed and more racist people are.  The populist nationalist movement is preying on that to try and legitimise this nonsense and make it mainstream and it will only set us backwards.  It might make the ignorant sleep better at night, but it achieves nothing positive in the long term.

That said, this is all delving a little too far off the intended topic, at least of my thread in the feedback forum (link).  The more I read, the more it seems that this has become a place where entitled middle aged and older white men come to complain about the brown people, or the <insert racial slur here>. 

The rules make it clear that this was never the intention of the board, but the moderation and enforcement of the rules is counter to that, hence my original question.
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Islam is not a race...........it is a political CULT

I stand by this statement.
I dont care what colour, race or where you are from, it matters not.

But I do oppose the brutal, primitive and political invasion of a CULT that takes everything but gives nothing back
It demands respect, but gives no respect

There is a difference between race and religion
and the CULT uses this tiny loophole to justify its barbarity, primitive practices and its isolationist practices.

Why do you think that this CULT attracts all of the worst kinds of people?
Criminals, pedophiles, murderers, sociopaths, you name it and they flock to this CULT.

The evidence is there to see, except that the islamophiles either refuse to see it or deliberately avoid it because it does not fit in with their agenda.

Look at Australia as an example.
In our gaols we have islamic conscription in a big way.
We have schools dedicated to islamic codes, including ignorance to women and radicalism.
We have isolationist practices and pack rapes by gangs of CULTISTS.
We see protests, over anything and everything, and always calling for murder, beheading and sharia law.
We have our laws ignored and our courts insulted
We have a higher rate of welfare fraud by these people and recently a whole range of insurance fraud.
Hell, we even have a crime squad dedicated to these people, for such a small number, they really make themselves felt don't they?

Racist, bullshite, this is a tool used by the CULT as a get out of gaol card, a way to justify their many fails.
And who is more bigoted than the CULT?
Noone, thats who.
In the countries ruled by the CULT there are no other religions tolerated, isnt that racism?????
Genocide, ethnic and religious cleansing, this is the CULT

And if you have trouble believing that its not political.
Just look at the recent election in a certain country where the CULT brought up some trumped up blasphemy charges so it could win and get in charge.

Look around, see what is happening around the world.
Not everyone sees the CULT as a good thing, in fact many are sorely sorry they even encountered it.

I will get a short post from Bwyannnn calling me a islamaphobe and telling people to move along.
This is simply because he cannot dispute the truth, so its fingers in the ears and na na na na na na
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Sad Kangaroo wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 4:41pm:
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Frank wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:35pm:
What is the difference between races, then, turd? And why is it racist to notice them, if they exist,  stinker?

You reveal yourself to be completely out of your depth the moment you utter anything, turd.


You're trying to use science you don't understand to give you an excuse to hate on differing ethnic groups.  I think you've misjudged who is out of their depth




This is a stupid argument, this pseudo-science stuff.

You do not need science to realise that people are different.  And no matter how many times silly arses like Aussie or Brian repeat that 'race is not scientific', race remains a cultural and ethnic and social reality

There are evident differences between the cultures, customs, values etc of various ethnic groups and many of these significant differences map onto ethnicity.  The hutus and the tutsis massacred each other along ethic lines, the Burmese and the Bagladeshis are doing the same. The Sudanese immigrants are completely different to the Chinese or the Japanese. Greeks are not Germans, Arabs are not Jews. Indians are awful to the Africans.


It's no good for immigrants expecting the locals to be sensitive to their ways, immigrants must be even more sensitive to the ways and expectations of locals. Flouting, or even being unaware of your incompatible ways will not win you friends, EVEN if you shout 'racism' every time your ways are not accepted or liked. You don't need to grow a stupid bears and put your wife in a niqab to be unacceptable to most people. You can put on a suit but if you still smell of stale curry on the morning commute, you have not fitted in. Salim Mehajer may have money and and not smell of curry, but he still just doesn't fit in.

Successful immigrants make a massive effort to assimilate. The ones who do not make an effort tend to blame everyone else and relish their supposed 'victimhood'.






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Sad Kangaroo wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 4:41pm:
I live in Queensland, the further north and inland you go, the less informed and more racist people are.  The populist nationalist movement is preying on that to try and legitimise this nonsense and make it mainstream and it will only set us backwards.  It might make the ignorant sleep better at night, but it achieves nothing positive in the long term.



Why is it OK to encourage ethnic immigrants to keep their own culture but not your white Queenslanders, who also want to keep their own white Australian culture?

And if it's OK to piss on them as 'racists and ignorant', why not piss on every other ethnic group that wants to keep its own culture?

Why is it it OK to have ethnic identity but not a nationalist Australian identity?

Every identity is encouraged except the main one. Why?







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Frank wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 8:59pm:
Why is it OK to encourage ethnic immigrants to keep their own culture but not your white Queenslanders, who also want to keep their own white Australian culture?


If you think white Australians "ethnic identity" is to be intolerant and racist then I'd only be wasting my time trying to explain how utterly stupid the notion of your false equivalency is.

That said, if someone is choosing to live here and be an Australian they should be expected to integrate into our society, but there should always be a place for them to keep their culture and their beliefs so long as they are within the law (aka no child brides, multiple wives, prevention of girls being educated etc).

There is a sane middle ground, you don't always have to assume those who don't agree with you are as far off the scale as you are, but in the opposite direction...

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Why is it it OK to have ethnic identity but not a nationalist Australian identity?

Every identity is encouraged except the main one. Why?


I think you're projecting your own fears and insecurities to the greater population.

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How many links to Turdfull telling us we are the most successful multicultural Country on the Planet would you like, even right up to and including today?

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The problem is that we have Australians who are so eager to ingratiate with foreigners for the presumed gratitude and approval this elicits from them that they won't be satisfied until Australian society resembles an international airport lounge - which is pretty much what Sydney looks like today.

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Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:08pm:
The problem is that we have Australians who are so eager to ingratiate with foreigners for the presumed gratitude and approval this elicits from them that they won't be satisfied until Australian society resembles an international airport lounge - which is pretty much what Sydney looks like today.



Like Turdfull, and every other Politician in Canberra?
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Valkie wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 7:20pm:
Islam is not a race...........it is a political CULT

I stand by this statement.
I dont care what colour, race or where you are from, it matters not.


Perhaps my rant being big enough to necessitate 2 posts scared you away from reading it.

The racism that I was referring to was straight up racism.  Nothing to do with religion or Islam.  That's a type of bigotry all of it's own.  You seem to be the only one arguing this and you're arguing with yourself.

The Muslim faith is a tricky subject.  It's complicated at best.  I personally have a problem with all religion and especially those who indoctrinate the weak with it, and those who take it a step further and use it to control others, radicalise the brainwashed and commit atrocities in it's name.

For centuries throughout our history this was done by all religions, including Christianity.  They had somewhat of a re-branding with the New Testament, but there are still plenty of Old Testament people who use that to justify ridiculous claims such as a Husband cannot rape his wife because in the eyes of the lord, in marriage she does not have the right to refuse her body to her husband or the justification of slavery, even some of the horrible things we see in the Christian African nations when it comes to homosexuals.

Some say Islam is no worse than other religions, but I can't agree with that either.  If people took a literal interpretation of the Christian books and it was enforced as the law of the land, such as Sharia Law, and there were no secular balance things would be horrible, but a different kind of horrible.

Thankfully like Christianity, the majority of educated practicing Muslims pick and choose what parts of their texts they adhere to and in the western world, they reject those that would put them in jail if they didn't.

But it took Christianity/Catholicism centuries to get where they are now from their "dark ages" and they're still full of kiddie fiddlers and men trying to hole power over women.  An enlightened society comes from education and understanding.  Taking an uninformed stance against Islam or any religion is, on a philosophical level, no better than those extremists who commit horrific acts in the name of an extreme interpretation of any given faith.

(Obviously in the real world, the two cannot be compared)

I've read both Testaments and an english translation of the Quran and while I feel "more informed", I still only have part of the story, part of the picture.  It's what people who abuse their interpretations of it that cause the most damage that I have the greatest knowledge gaps. 

You could cherry pick and take all the good for the Quran, live you life by those rules and you would be one of the better people in the world.

But when you have people calling for the death of those who draw their prophet, or stone women accused of being adulterous, the key is what those in a position of "religious power" abuse their texts and push their ideas of control of others and this only highlights the complexity of the issues.

I wouldn't go as far as calling Islam a cult no more than I would call any other religion a cult, BUT, the extremists who try to justify their actions with religion, they and their followers/indoctrinated are acting whether willingly or unknowingly as a political cult much like how you've described it.

But those who practice their faith and are good people far outweigh the extremists.  We should be empowering them, especially the women, to speak out against the extremists, not bundling them all together in such an ignorant fashion.  That will only make things worse.

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This is simply because he cannot dispute the truth, so its fingers in the ears and na na na na na na


I won't call you an islamaphobe and I honestly believe your position comes from a genuine concern, but you could certainly benefit from informing yourself better on the subject and not take such a primitive stance on such a complex issue.

Again however, that is not the topic of this thread.

Unfortunately, on topic, if this thread was a honeypot to prove or disprove the original question, that being do these forums, their mods and their owners encourage racism, given some of the outright hate and vitriol posted and let remain in this thread alone, I'm worried for what the answer may be.

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Reply #184 - Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:49pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:08pm:
The problem is that we have Australians who are so eager to ingratiate with foreigners for the presumed gratitude and approval this elicits from them that they won't be satisfied until Australian society resembles an international airport lounge - which is pretty much what Sydney looks like today.



But you're assuming that we have a long standing culture of our own.  I've had trouble getting people to even tell me what they consider "Australian Cuisine" let alone culture.  Unless you talk of Indigenous Australians we don't go back that far and what we go back to isn't much to write home about.

I love my country and I'm not trying to be unAustralian, but think about the question for a minute.  It's not one easily answered.

That's no excuse to abandon everything and introduce Sharia Law or anything, but if anything what has made Australia great over the years has been the people who've been here and done great things, even if it's just for their own families or communities.  Since the abolition of the White Australia policy and our intake of refugees over the decades the benefits of our multiculturalism have outweighed the teething problems.

But there will always be those who don't like change and yes, we shouldn't forget who we are, but we need to know who we are first.

If it's a bunch of racist assholes who will blame everyone else but themselves for all their problems then perhaps it's time to be unAustralian. 
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Sad Kangaroo wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:42pm:
Unfortunately, on topic, if this thread was a honeypot to prove or disprove the original question, that being do these forums, their mods and their owners encourage racism, given some of the outright hate and vitriol posted and let remain in this thread alone, I'm worried for what the answer may be.



I'm a mod and I'd like you to show if I have encouraged it. I do not like racism but as I stated in the beginning, speaking for myself, I'm not the thought police and have no intention of moving that way. All voices should be heard, none silenced, and let the cards fall where they may.

edit: I could be classed as a culturalist. I do not believe all cultures are equal.
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Sad Kangaroo wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:07pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 8:59pm:
Why is it OK to encourage ethnic immigrants to keep their own culture but not your white Queenslanders, who also want to keep their own white Australian culture?


If you think white Australians "ethnic identity" is to be intolerant and racist then I'd only be wasting my time trying to explain how utterly stupid the notion of your false equivalency is.

That said, if someone is choosing to live here and be an Australian they should be expected to integrate into our society, but there should always be a place for them to keep their culture and their beliefs so long as they are within the law (aka no child brides, multiple wives, prevention of girls being educated etc).

There is a sane middle ground, you don't always have to assume those who don't agree with you are as far off the scale as you are, but in the opposite direction...

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Why is it it OK to have ethnic identity but not a nationalist Australian identity?

Every identity is encouraged except the main one. Why?


I think you're projecting your own fears and insecurities to the greater population.

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You are avoiding the question by arbitrarily painting a host culture that wants to preserve itself as racist and another, incoming one that wants to perpetuate itself in a new and essentially different culture as not racist and ignorant and fearful and the rest.

I think if you come here from the other side of the world and want to keep playing as if you were still over there and the culture here was not worth every effort of assimilataing into - even though you were not forced to come here -, well, then you are a worse racist than the locals who just want you to fit in and not protest your dog's balls ('"sticking out like...') pride .






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Sad Kangaroo wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:49pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:08pm:
The problem is that we have Australians who are so eager to ingratiate with foreigners for the presumed gratitude and approval this elicits from them that they won't be satisfied until Australian society resembles an international airport lounge - which is pretty much what Sydney looks like today.



But you're assuming that we have a long standing culture of our own.  I've had trouble getting people to even tell me what they consider "Australian Cuisine" let alone culture.  Unless you talk of Indigenous Australians we don't go back that far and what we go back to isn't much to write home about.

I love my country and I'm not trying to be unAustralian, but think about the question for a minute.  It's not one easily answered.

That's no excuse to abandon everything and introduce Sharia Law or anything, but if anything what has made Australia great over the years has been the people who've been here and done great things, even if it's just for their own families or communities.  Since the abolition of the White Australia policy and our intake of refugees over the decades the benefits of our multiculturalism have outweighed the teething problems.

But there will always be those who don't like change and yes, we shouldn't forget who we are, but we need to know who we are first.

If it's a bunch of racist assholes who will blame everyone else but themselves for all their problems then perhaps it's time to be unAustralian. 



This is just silly. 

You assert a bunch of untestable platitudes (multiculturalism has more benefits than drawbacks) and at the same time wonder what Australian culture is or where it comes from or what has made it what it is - something that is very much more evident and obvious than your silly, empty platitudes about multiculturalism.

And you do this in a very banal and long-winded way.
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Frank wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:57pm:
You are avoiding the question by arbitrarily painting a host culture that wants to preserve itself as racist and another, incoming one that wants to perpetuate itself in a new and essentially different culture as not racist and ignorant and fearful and the rest.


See I didn't do that, and I even suggested that you'd not understand an answer even if I gave one, which I did and you didn't:

Sad Kangaroo wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:07pm:
That said, if someone is choosing to live here and be an Australian they should be expected to integrate into our society, but there should always be a place for them to keep their culture and their beliefs so long as they are within the law (aka no child brides, multiple wives, prevention of girls being educated etc).

There is a sane middle ground, you don't always have to assume those who don't agree with you are as far off the scale as you are, but in the opposite direction...


Try reading it again.

Frank wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:57pm:
I think if you come here from the other side of the world and want to keep playing as if you were still over there and the culture here was not worth every effort of assimilataing into - even though you were not forced to come here -, well, then you are a worse racist than the locals who just want you to fit in and not protest your dog's balls ('"sticking out like...') pride .


I don't think you know what racist means...

I agree that there are problems with people choosing to live here even if they've done so legally who don't make any attempt at integration, but it sounds like, unless you didn't read what I wrote, that you want them to completely abandon their own culture and replace it with ours.

And you want to call them racist?
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Frank wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 10:05pm:
This is just silly. 

You assert a bunch of untestable platitudes (multiculturalism has more benefits than drawbacks) and at the same time wonder what Australian culture is or where it comes from or what has made it what it is - something that is very much more evident and obvious than your silly, empty platitudes about multiculturalism.

And you do this in a very banal and long-winded way.


I'll try to keep things short and sweet if that helps, what part of our culture is at risk?
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Brian Ross wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 4:03pm:
Want to bet on that?

I remember travelling through India many years ago when the passenger on the train beside me noticed me watching some kids in a paddy field.  "If you drank that water like they are, you'd be dead in a day or two."   Their resistance is many times higher to diseases we have all but eliminated from our societies.  Disease resistance is evolutionary but on a micro-scale, not the macro which is what is being discussed here.   Individuals develop it, societies develop it but they also lose it once the disease is eliminated from the environment.

No one has developed an evolutionary resistance to Plague, to Rabies, to Smallpox, etc. UnSubRocky.   Vaccination has helped but it is an artificial resistance, introduced artificially into our species from outside.    Today we are facing the anti-Vaxxers who want to destroy that.

800 years ago, the environment was dirty, unhygienic and rife with diseases we have large eliminated from our purvey.  We have cleaned up our homes, our workplaces and ourselves.   It has had little if anything to do with "evolution" as Darwin defined it.    Roll Eyes


Every year, the elderly and aborigines are asked to get influenza vaccines. Remember, aborigines are not considered European. Many aborigines are biracial with admixture of European genetics. But because of a low/modest immune resistance to disease, aborigines are encouraged to get vaccinations.

Only in the last week, the entire town of Rockhampton was on alert to a measles epidemic potential from a person who walked in an infected state through one of the main shopping centres. I had measles when I was 15 years old, and was not concerned due to my immunity from it since then. But I can bet that there are those out there who are not of my racial background who would have died from measles.

I spoke to an Indonesian man, many years ago. He told me that the cold virus was such a near non-existent threat to Indonesia, that Indonesians only get an outbreak during the southern hemisphere winter when Australian tourists (mostly) cough and splutter on planes and at tourists resorts and through parts of the cities. Because Indonesians have an outdoors culture, and like to keep their homes breezy all year around (basically no winter there). But even a disease that spreads through closed spaces can be devastating in Indonesia. Citizenry there can be crippled by the common cold.

I have had all kinds of illnesses growing up. Last week, I got the symptoms of a cold sore virus that quickly dissipated. Learned several years ago to treat it with lime juice. Did not have a problem since then until last week. I bet that people around the world, even those with the same kind of access to health services are unable to fight off disease as well as people of my own racial background.
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Gordon wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 7:52pm:
This place is much better without you.
When's your next hospital stay?


Not often that the first reply is just to abuse the poster of the topic ?

Maybe have a think about how it reflects .........?
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When it is exploited in order to win elections it is almost certain to spread through society at all levels.

It is particularly strong here.
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Setanta wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:57pm:
I'm a mod and I'd like you to show if I have encouraged it. I do not like racism but as I stated in the beginning, speaking for myself, I'm not the thought police and have no intention of moving that way. All voices should be heard, none silenced, and let the cards fall where they may.

edit: I could be classed as a culturalist. I do not believe all cultures are equal.


Thanks for the reply. 

My understanding of the rules is that gratuitous attack on a racial group are not allowed.  I'm not saying that any exchange of ideas should be restricted upon the topic of race, or policies dealing with race or migration, in fact doing so would be a disservice to everyone here.

But when people use terms like "Head N---- In Charge" (or Ex-HNIC now) when talking about Obama, casually using racial slurs like chincs or wanting to smell radiated yello flesh in the morning, "squint lovers", gooks etc etc in the context of attacking other posters or their family, and all of that doesn't get moderated, one has to wonder have these boards grown too big for the current mod team, or is this sort of thing condoned?

I'm not accusing the mod team of anything, far from it, I just wanted to know where the board stands on this in general.

I'm all for free speech, but people should be held to account for the things they say.

I would agree with you on the notion of cultures too.
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Sad Kangaroo wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 10:38pm:
Setanta wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:57pm:
I'm a mod and I'd like you to show if I have encouraged it. I do not like racism but as I stated in the beginning, speaking for myself, I'm not the thought police and have no intention of moving that way. All voices should be heard, none silenced, and let the cards fall where they may.

edit: I could be classed as a culturalist. I do not believe all cultures are equal.


Thanks for the reply. 

My understanding of the rules is that gratuitous attack on a racial group are not allowed.  I'm not saying that any exchange of ideas should be restricted upon the topic of race, or policies dealing with race or migration, in fact doing so would be a disservice to everyone here.

But when people use terms like "Head N---- In Charge" (or Ex-HNIC now) when talking about Obama, casually using racial slurs like chincs or wanting to smell radiated yello flesh in the morning, "squint lovers", gooks etc etc in the context of attacking other posters or their family, and all of that doesn't get moderated, one has to wonder have these boards grown too big for the current mod team, or is this sort of thing condoned?

I'm not accusing the mod team of anything, far from it, I just wanted to know where the board stands on this in general.

I'm all for free speech, but people should be held to account for the things they say.

I would agree with you on the notion of cultures too.


I would take the racial abuse rule as against other members rather than making comments that others may consider racist in general. To be honest I haven't seen much of that towards members.

edit: I see the rule you mean now. Unfortunately there are the rules up the top bar and the rules in feedback.
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Note that race is treated differently from religion, which is a matter of choice and is open to the same criticism as political ideology.


Well I can say there is too much for me to go through, unless it's reported I'm unlikely to see most of what goes on.
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Dnarever wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 10:32pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 7:52pm:
This place is much better without you.
When's your next hospital stay?


Not often that the first reply is just to abuse the poster of the topic ?

Maybe have a think about how it reflects .........?


Well, that was Gregs first day back after a week break and he came out of the blocks personally abusing just about everyone.  What I said was about 10% what he was dishing up to others so tough.
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Kanga. Absolutely love your work. Spot on.


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mothra wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 11:23pm:
Kanga. Absolutely love your work. Spot on.


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I find him a breath of fresh air too. I hope he is not too sensitive though. Political discourse needs to hear all views.

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Valkie wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 7:20pm:
Islam is not a race...........it is a political CULT

I stand by this statement.
I dont care what colour, race or where you are from, it matters not.

But I do oppose the brutal, primitive and political invasion of a CULT that takes everything but gives nothing back
It demands respect, but gives no respect

There is a difference between race and religion
and the CULT uses this tiny loophole to justify its barbarity, primitive practices and its isolationist practices.

Why do you think that this CULT attracts all of the worst kinds of people?
Criminals, pedophiles, murderers, sociopaths, you name it and they flock to this CULT.

The evidence is there to see, except that the islamophiles either refuse to see it or deliberately avoid it because it does not fit in with their agenda.

Look at Australia as an example.
In our gaols we have islamic conscription in a big way.
We have schools dedicated to islamic codes, including ignorance to women and radicalism.
We have isolationist practices and pack rapes by gangs of CULTISTS.
We see protests, over anything and everything, and always calling for murder, beheading and sharia law.
We have our laws ignored and our courts insulted
We have a higher rate of welfare fraud by these people and recently a whole range of insurance fraud.
Hell, we even have a crime squad dedicated to these people, for such a small number, they really make themselves felt don't they?

Racist, bullshite, this is a tool used by the CULT as a get out of gaol card, a way to justify their many fails.
And who is more bigoted than the CULT?
Noone, thats who.
In the countries ruled by the CULT there are no other religions tolerated, isnt that racism?????
Genocide, ethnic and religious cleansing, this is the CULT

And if you have trouble believing that its not political.
Just look at the recent election in a certain country where the CULT brought up some trumped up blasphemy charges so it could win and get in charge.

Look around, see what is happening around the world.
Not everyone sees the CULT as a good thing, in fact many are sorely sorry they even encountered it.

I will get a short post from Bwyannnn calling me a islamaphobe and telling people to move along.
This is simply because he cannot dispute the truth, so its fingers in the ears and na na na na na na


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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Just move along folks, move along.  Nothing new here, just the same old tired Islamophobia.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 12:49am:
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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Just move along folks, move along.  Nothing new here, just the same old tired Islamophobia.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes


I agree with some of what you say Brian but this stuff is not a breath of fresh air. It's tedious and trite. Don't blame it on others, it's your choice, you could put your mind to work and come up with better. Look at Unforgiven, at least he's entertaining a pity he uses it to abuse others rather than point out the errors in their ways.

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Setanta wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:04am:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 12:49am:
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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Just move along folks, move along.  Nothing new here, just the same old tired Islamophobia.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes


I agree with some of what you say Brian but this stuff is not a breath of fresh air. It's tedious and trite. Don't blame it on others, it's your choice, you could put your mind to work and come up with better. Look at Unforgiven, at least he's entertaining a pity he uses it to abuse others rather than point out the errors in their ways.


Setanta, I agree that Sad 'Roo's stuff is a breath of fresh air.  My stuff?  It's old, it's tired, perhaps I need new writers?  I dunno, do you know where I can get some to work for nothing?   Roll Eyes

More seriously, I am just fed up with the same tired old ad hominem insults, the same tired old bigoted Islamophobia.   Nothing I have ever said, nothing anybody has ever said will change these peoples' minds.   They aren't interested in learning the truth, they just want to hate, they just want to insult.  Well, I identify their posts for what they are.  When they stop, I'll stop.   Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:11am:
Setanta wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:04am:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 12:49am:
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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Just move along folks, move along.  Nothing new here, just the same old tired Islamophobia.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes


I agree with some of what you say Brian but this stuff is not a breath of fresh air. It's tedious and trite. Don't blame it on others, it's your choice, you could put your mind to work and come up with better. Look at Unforgiven, at least he's entertaining a pity he uses it to abuse others rather than point out the errors in their ways.


Setanta, I agree that Sad 'Roo's stuff is a breath of fresh air.  My stuff?  It's old, it's tired, perhaps I need new writers?  I dunno, do you know where I can get some to work for nothing?   Roll Eyes

More seriously, I am just fed up with the same tired old ad hominem insults, the same tired old bigoted Islamophobia.   Nothing I have ever said, nothing anybody has ever said will change these peoples' minds.   They aren't interested in learning the truth, they just want to hate, they just want to insult.  Well, I identify their posts for what they are.  When they stop, I'll stop.   Roll Eyes


I don't think you should look at changing their minds. I think you should look towards the people that read the discourse. If your only answer is yawn, while they put their views forward, what do you pass on? Certainly not an argument for your point of view and how you see the world, how it should be. You come across as someone to ignore. If you are going to take the soap box, speak, don't yawn and fall asleep.


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Sad Kangaroo wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 10:15pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:57pm:
You are avoiding the question by arbitrarily painting a host culture that wants to preserve itself as racist and another, incoming one that wants to perpetuate itself in a new and essentially different culture as not racist and ignorant and fearful and the rest.


See I didn't do that, and I even suggested that you'd not understand an answer even if I gave one, which I did and you didn't:

Sad Kangaroo wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:07pm:
That said, if someone is choosing to live here and be an Australian they should be expected to integrate into our society, but there should always be a place for them to keep their culture and their beliefs so long as they are within the law (aka no child brides, multiple wives, prevention of girls being educated etc).

There is a sane middle ground, you don't always have to assume those who don't agree with you are as far off the scale as you are, but in the opposite direction...


Try reading it again.



It's the silly Vicky Pollard yeah-but-no-but argument.

I do not want to make a place of every culture's every aspect in this country. I do not want them to think they can keep their culture in toto because large parts of their culture - the bits that makes them different -are bad and are not to be encouraged or tolerated.
I want them to consciously abandon the backward, inferior, out of place aspects of their cultures, not to 'integrate' these aspects into our lives.


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Why is it it OK to have ethnic identity but not a nationalist Australian identity?


How many links to Turdfull telling us we are the most successful multicultural Country on the Planet would you like, even right up to and including today?

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It's a platitude nobody believes.

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Sad Kangaroo wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:49pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:08pm:
The problem is that we have Australians who are so eager to ingratiate with foreigners for the presumed gratitude and approval this elicits from them that they won't be satisfied until Australian society resembles an international airport lounge - which is pretty much what Sydney looks like today.



But you're assuming that we have a long standing culture of our own.


That's precisely what we do have, as derived from Britain and Ireland.

The bones of Australia's core culture came over from the UK and is many hundreds of years old, and is pretty much why countries of the Anglo-sphere are the success story that they are today, and why over 300 different foreign nationalities have for the past 100 years or so been abandoning their ancient homelands to join the Brits in their various colonies and in their various guises.


Sad Kangaroo wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:49pm:
I've had trouble getting people to even tell me what they consider "Australian Cuisine" let alone culture.


I see you bought the whole package - the whole nine yards of self-negation, self-belittlement, self-immolation, self-effacement, and self-flagellation as a White generational Australian, and most probably have cultivated this nihilist Anglo-Australian posture in order to ingratiate with, and garner the gratitude of, the Third World foreigners who now live among us in their millions.

In this you are certainly not alone, and is a core feature of Leftwing social ideology where immigrants are concerned.

Instead of rhetorically asking others to explain what Australian culture is and what is our cuisine, why not go one better and work these things out for yourself with a positive attitude rather than with a defeatist attitude that you would very well know will win you the gratitude and smiling approval of your ethnic friends?

You need to get off your knees, become emotionally independent of ethnic approval, and start standing up for your own generational heritage and success story.

The passive-receptive ploy for winning friends among our ethnic neighbours and acquaintances is the easiest of all strategies for winning cheap popularity, with meanwhile the hardest being to promote your own cultural heritage as proudly and loudly just as much as they do at every opportunity.

Don't be a wimp when it comes to facing down boastful ethnics with your own tool-box of Australian cultural and kitchen credits to be proud of.

I started working with ethnics of different nationalities in the immigrant factories of Sydney in 1962, with nearly all of them being smaller in stature than your average Australian. Years later I worked with their sons and daughters who were 6-footers and over because they ate 'Australian food' ... with plenty of meat-and-three-veggies ... and not the goat's cheese, rabbit greens, pasta, and tomatoes their antecedents grew up on.

Posing as a self-belittling white Anglo-Aussie with a bended knee to ethnic culture and cuisine may win you some cheap applause from your ethnic friends to begin with, but this attitude doesn't last, and soon turns into contempt for your betrayal of your own people and your own heritage - as it means you are not to be trusted by them either.















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Frank wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 8:18am:
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How many links to Turdfull telling us we are the most successful multicultural Country on the Planet would you like, even right up to and including today?

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It's a platitude nobody believes.



It's an empty boast which begs the question: Why did our political class give away our socially and demographically unified and harmonious national identity for a few shekels of silver via indiscriminate immigration policy?





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Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 10:32am:
That's precisely what we do have, as derived from Britain and Ireland.

The bones of Australia's core culture came over from the UK and is many hundreds of years old, and is pretty much why countries of the Anglo-sphere are the success story that they are today, and why over 300 different foreign nationalities have for the past 100 years or so been abandoning their ancient homelands to join the Brits in their various colonies.


So we have a borrowed culture then?  Doesn't that mean we're still in the process of shaping who we are?  I believe I know what it means to "be Australian" and I'm proud of that, but it's hardly "culture".  I've seen what culture is from the various places I've lived around the world and in many cases it dates back thousands of years.  We have a couple of centuries and like any colonial settlement born nation, there is a lot sweep under the rug.

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It may have come off that way reading it all back, but that wasn't my intention.  It's an honest question.  From my personal experience, I'm the second generation of my family born here with my grandparents migrating in the early 1900's with English, Irish, Scottish and a dash of Greek (which upon arrival here was quickly shed to the point of even changing surnames stand out less) heritage .

Much of what I understand to be "Australian Culture" isn't so much Australian but borrowed mainly from the above.  Perhaps our cultural identity is still being formed?  We clearly already identify aspects of others we like then call it our own?  Maybe that is the natural progression?

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Instead of rhetorically asking others to explain what Australian culture is and what is our cuisine, why not go one better and work these things out for yourself with a positive attitude rather than with a defeatist attitude that you would very well know will win you the gratitude and smiling approval of your ethnic friends?


Well it wasn't a rhetorical question. 

Out in the real world and even in the media, I see people demanding that immigrants adopt our culture or even go as far as to be forced to shed their own and replace it with ours, but when those making these demands are asked what that means, what is our culture that they have to adopt, they cannot answer it.  Sure some jokingly (I hope) say they've got to eat meat pies and love the footy, and then?

I'm not alone in that, you just seem to take issue with me not having a rock solid answer because you think I'm a socialist leftie begging for the approval of my leftie and ethnic friends.

I certainly don't see you offering any answers to those questions.  Rather cheap and hypocritical of you there.

If my problem is that I'm of "bent-knee", yours seems to be a stubbornness and pigheadedness spawned from a sense of superiority.

There has to be a middle ground which is what I'm trying to find.

If you can't or don't want to help me form my understanding of what our culture is that's fine, just be careful your high horse doesn't trample all over you in the process.
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Reply #207 - Apr 21st, 2017 at 11:36am
 
Sad Kangaroo wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 11:01am:
So we have a borrowed culture then?


Please leave the affected 'disingenuous' posturing to Karnal as his favourite schtick - not yours. It's a tiresome form of rhetoric and sarcasm that's best left with our latte set and those who live in Granville, Sydney, among the Great Unwashed.

All cultures are derived from antecedents who lived in former times, and who in many cases lived oceans away.

Your question "So we have a borrowed culture then?" would suggest you are opposed to asking our millions of immigrants to assimilate into the Australian culture as this would be tantamount to asking of them that they live by a borrowed culture - ours.

You've painted yourself into a corner here.








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Reply #208 - Apr 21st, 2017 at 11:48am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 11:36am:
You've painted yourself into a corner here.


And you didn't answer the question.

But that aside, I do agree that those who choose to migrate here should adopt our culture, I made that clear.  I'm just saying however, if A Current Affair for example stopped me in the street and shoved a camera in my face, asked me the same question then followed that up with "So if you think they should adopt our culture, what is our culture that they should adopt", I'd be hard up to answer it without looking like an ignorant fool.

I honestly would like to know what others think about it, but perhaps that's a topic for another thread.  The trend of so many threads getting dragged way off topic here also runs me.

That said, you've gone out of your way to avoid answering that question which says enough.  Go me all you like but don't pretend you've not decided to distract away from that.

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Gordon wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 11:03pm:
Well, that was Gregs first day back after a week break and he came out of the blocks personally abusing just about everyone.


Grin Grin Grin

And no doubt he's tired-but-happy now.
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Reply #210 - Apr 21st, 2017 at 5:43pm
 
Sad Kangaroo wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 11:48am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 11:36am:
You've painted yourself into a corner here.


And you didn't answer the question.

But that aside, I do agree that those who choose to migrate here should adopt our culture, I made that clear. 



Well, you didn't need a lot of scratching to be revealed as being the same self-contradictory and superficial Vicky Pollard as the rest of them. With further points deducted for being a long-winded and self-contradictory Vicky.

You tried on the 'we have no culture', then it was 'borrowed culture' then it's 'they should adopt our culture'.

I can only credit you for the quickest climb down.

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Reply #211 - Apr 21st, 2017 at 5:56pm
 
Sad Kangaroo wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 11:48am:
I'm just saying however, if A Current Affair for example stopped me in the street and shoved a camera in my face, asked me the same question then followed that up with "So if you think they should adopt our culture, what is our culture that they should adopt", I'd be hard up to answer it without looking like an ignorant fool.




Too much Guardian, Fairfax and ABC and Waleed Ali, I say. You have been going along with what you thought are your betters so as to not think about who YOU actually are.

Australia has one of the world's oldest constitutions. Such political and social and cultural stability doesn't come from a lack of culture, a lack of identity, a lack of self-awareness even if you, in your ignorance, would be hard pressed to articulate where it comes from.








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Reply #212 - Apr 21st, 2017 at 6:08pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 5:43pm:
Sad Kangaroo wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 11:48am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 11:36am:
You've painted yourself into a corner here.


And you didn't answer the question.

But that aside, I do agree that those who choose to migrate here should adopt our culture, I made that clear. 



Well, you didn't need a lot of scratching to be revealed as being the same self-contradictory and superficial Vicky Pollard as the rest of them. With further points deducted for being a long-winded and self-contradictory Vicky.

You tried on the 'we have no culture', then it was 'borrowed culture' then it's 'they should adopt our culture'.

I can only credit you for the quickest climb down.



As you can see, Sad, the old boy's new to our ways. As an upwardly aspiring new Australian, he's yet to learn our relaxed, egalitarian ethos.

We've all tried to help the old boy loosen his sphincter muscles, to no avail. The old boy still carries unexploded stool from WWII.
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Reply #213 - Apr 21st, 2017 at 6:08pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 10:32am:
Sad Kangaroo wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:49pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:08pm:
The problem is that we have Australians who are so eager to ingratiate with foreigners for the presumed gratitude and approval this elicits from them that they won't be satisfied until Australian society resembles an international airport lounge - which is pretty much what Sydney looks like today.



But you're assuming that we have a long standing culture of our own.


That's precisely what we do have, as derived from Britain and Ireland.

The bones of Australia's core culture came over from the UK and is many hundreds of years old, and is pretty much why countries of the Anglo-sphere are the success story that they are today, and why over 300 different foreign nationalities have for the past 100 years or so been abandoning their ancient homelands to join the Brits in their various colonies and in their various guises.


Sad Kangaroo wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:49pm:
I've had trouble getting people to even tell me what they consider "Australian Cuisine" let alone culture.


I see you bought the whole package - the whole nine yards of self-negation, self-belittlement, self-immolation, self-effacement, and self-flagellation as a White generational Australian, and most probably have cultivated this nihilist Anglo-Australian posture in order to ingratiate with, and garner the gratitude of, the Third World foreigners who now live among us in their millions.

In this you are certainly not alone, and is a core feature of Leftwing social ideology where immigrants are concerned.

Instead of rhetorically asking others to explain what Australian culture is and what is our cuisine, why not go one better and work these things out for yourself with a positive attitude rather than with a defeatist attitude that you would very well know will win you the gratitude and smiling approval of your ethnic friends?

You need to get off your knees, become emotionally independent of ethnic approval, and start standing up for your own generational heritage and success story.

The passive-receptive ploy for winning friends among our ethnic neighbours and acquaintances is the easiest of all strategies for winning cheap popularity, with meanwhile the hardest being to promote your own cultural heritage as proudly and loudly just as much as they do at every opportunity.

Don't be a wimp when it comes to facing down boastful ethnics with your own tool-box of Australian cultural and kitchen credits to be proud of.

I started working with ethnics of different nationalities in the immigrant factories of Sydney in 1962, with nearly all of them being smaller in stature than your average Australian. Years later I worked with their sons and daughters who were 6-footers and over because they ate 'Australian food' ... with plenty of meat-and-three-veggies ... and not the goat's cheese, rabbit greens, pasta, and tomatoes their antecedents grew up on.

Posing as a self-belittling white Anglo-Aussie with a bended knee to ethnic culture and cuisine may win you some cheap applause from your ethnic friends to begin with, but this attitude doesn't last, and soon turns into contempt for your betrayal of your own people and your own heritage - as it means you are not to be trusted by them either.




Just so.

Cultural confidence is nor racist, it's not bigoted, especially when it's confidence about an evidently better culture, such as Australia's compared to most immigrants' cultures.

A funny thing - people from culturally compatible countries have a much higher regard for Australia than people from culturally distant countries, many if not most being cultural wastelands and/or hell-holes. Many such people will never forgive Australia for not being  hell-hole also. Muslims figure significantly in this cohort. They can't forgive kuffars for being better than what Muslim have been able to achieve.
It's like the joke: the Germans will never forgive the Jews for Auschwitz.






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Reply #214 - Apr 21st, 2017 at 6:12pm
 
Karnal wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 6:08pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 5:43pm:
Sad Kangaroo wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 11:48am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 11:36am:
You've painted yourself into a corner here.


And you didn't answer the question.

But that aside, I do agree that those who choose to migrate here should adopt our culture, I made that clear. 



Well, you didn't need a lot of scratching to be revealed as being the same self-contradictory and superficial Vicky Pollard as the rest of them. With further points deducted for being a long-winded and self-contradictory Vicky.

You tried on the 'we have no culture', then it was 'borrowed culture' then it's 'they should adopt our culture'.

I can only credit you for the quickest climb down.



As you can see, Sad, the old boy's new to our ways. As an upwardly aspiring new Australian, he's yet to learn our relaxed, egalitarian ethos.

We've all tried to help the old boy loosen his sphincter muscles, to no avail. The old boy still carries unexploded stool from WWII.



There you go, Sad Kangaroo, this is the kind of intellectual ally you have - a Marx and Foucault reading Pakistani pederast. He is your cultural ally and champion.

Sad Kangaroo, indeed.


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Reply #215 - Apr 21st, 2017 at 6:26pm
 
Sad Kangaroo wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:42pm:
Valkie wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 7:20pm:
Islam is not a race...........it is a political CULT

I stand by this statement.
I dont care what colour, race or where you are from, it matters not.


Perhaps my rant being big enough to necessitate 2 posts scared you away from reading it.

The racism that I was referring to was straight up racism.  Nothing to do with religion or Islam.  That's a type of bigotry all of it's own.  You seem to be the only one arguing this and you're arguing with yourself.

The Muslim faith is a tricky subject.  It's complicated at best.  I personally have a problem with all religion and especially those who indoctrinate the weak with it, and those who take it a step further and use it to control others, radicalise the brainwashed and commit atrocities in it's name.

For centuries throughout our history this was done by all religions, including Christianity.  They had somewhat of a re-branding with the New Testament, but there are still plenty of Old Testament people who use that to justify ridiculous claims such as a Husband cannot rape his wife because in the eyes of the lord, in marriage she does not have the right to refuse her body to her husband or the justification of slavery, even some of the horrible things we see in the Christian African nations when it comes to homosexuals.

Some say Islam is no worse than other religions, but I can't agree with that either.  If people took a literal interpretation of the Christian books and it was enforced as the law of the land, such as Sharia Law, and there were no secular balance things would be horrible, but a different kind of horrible.

Thankfully like Christianity, the majority of educated practicing Muslims pick and choose what parts of their texts they adhere to and in the western world, they reject those that would put them in jail if they didn't.

But it took Christianity/Catholicism centuries to get where they are now from their "dark ages" and they're still full of kiddie fiddlers and men trying to hole power over women.  An enlightened society comes from education and understanding.  Taking an uninformed stance against Islam or any religion is, on a philosophical level, no better than those extremists who commit horrific acts in the name of an extreme interpretation of any given faith.

(Obviously in the real world, the two cannot be compared)

I've read both Testaments and an english translation of the Quran and while I feel "more informed", I still only have part of the story, part of the picture.  It's what people who abuse their interpretations of it that cause the most damage that I have the greatest knowledge gaps. 

You could cherry pick and take all the good for the Quran, live you life by those rules and you would be one of the better people in the world.

But when you have people calling for the death of those who draw their prophet, or stone women accused of being adulterous, the key is what those in a position of "religious power" abuse their texts and push their ideas of control of others and this only highlights the complexity of the issues.

I wouldn't go as far as calling Islam a cult no more than I would call any other religion a cult, BUT, the extremists who try to justify their actions with religion, they and their followers/indoctrinated are acting whether willingly or unknowingly as a political cult much like how you've described it.

But those who practice their faith and are good people far outweigh the extremists.  We should be empowering them, especially the women, to speak out against the extremists, not bundling them all together in such an ignorant fashion.  That will only make things worse.

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I will get a short post from Bwyannnn calling me a islamaphobe and telling people to move along.
This is simply because he cannot dispute the truth, so its fingers in the ears and na na na na na na


I won't call you an islamaphobe and I honestly believe your position comes from a genuine concern, but you could certainly benefit from informing yourself better on the subject and not take such a primitive stance on such a complex issue.

Again however, that is not the topic of this thread.

Unfortunately, on topic, if this thread was a honeypot to prove or disprove the original question, that being do these forums, their mods and their owners encourage racism, given some of the outright hate and vitriol posted and let remain in this thread alone, I'm worried for what the answer may be.


Cheeses, you must be lonely!! Who would listen to all this hot air??

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