I've read the forum rules and I notice that many on here don't bother to follow them, especially when it comes to being racist when the topic isn't even about race.

Is there any enforcement of the rules or are they merely a formality in running a forum?

Is it safe to assume that those who moderate or even own the forum condone that kind of activity which is why it goes unmoderated?

Thanks.

At the very least the endless muslim bashing threads should be moved from the "General board" to one of the member run boards (islam or multiculturalism & Race). Other threads get moved so there should be some consistency shown. Too many Muslim bashing threads are polluting the General Board

There are rules?  I'm amazed, I've always assumed there were none after the way in which certain people continually behave.   Racism/Xenophobia/Islamophobia are rife and they seem to get upset when I identify them as such.  Tsk, tsk, if they want to get nasty, oh, well...   

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 19^th, 2017 at 11:48pm:


I appreciate your input Baronvonrort, but, it's not that type of idiocy I was referring to.  To be clear, the "idiocy" I mean in my last statement is not that people confuse a faith with a race, but that people think they can excuse their bigotry and hate towards people of a certain faith because someone calls it racism.  That's not a valid defense. 

I personally understand the difference between a religion and a race but I also understand what bigotry is, but again, this isn't what I was referring to with my original question.

You have every right to be a bigot and express those feelings, just don't pretend to be a victim when you're held accountable for it, but since I believe that was just another example of the attempted deflection and offtopic distraction away from a thread's original topic, you've kind of displayed some of what I'm asking about.

There are blatant racial slurs targeting Asians, Indigenous Australians, African Americans etc most often directed as personal attacks towards other posters to avoid dealing with the points they've raised.  Threads get dragged off topic and then those being racist try to turn it around and painting themselves as the victim, it's all a mess.

I just wanted some clarity as to which rules matter since enforcement seems random and some rules look to exist only in case someone goes too far and the authorities get involved as a sort of indemnity to the board owner/mods.

I try not to bash people's ears in the real world by talking politics all the time and I thought this could be an outlet to do so.  I checked the rules before joining and thought it seemed like a good match.  This place wouldn't be overly moderated, I could be exposed to views of others I don't agree with and would probably not get in the circles I'm in "irl" but I wasn't expecting to see so much blatant racism, homophobia and rather than an exchange of ideas, petty childish attacks on posters using the aforementioned.  That all seems counter to the rules, but it happens en masse.

Hence wanting to know if it happens because perhaps the board has grown larger than the current mods can handle, or if this is simply condoned by them and the owner even if it is counter to their claimed and established rules?

It's a simple question, not sure why it triggered you there Baronvonrort.

Some more recent examples,

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1517990955/4#4
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 7^th, 2018 at 9:49pm:


http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1515637030/38#38
Panther wrote on Feb 7^th, 2018 at 2:42pm:

I am in favor of blatant racism and Islamophobia.

Both are objectively correct.

Liberals, who believe in lies, are unable to counter our arguments since they are true.

Therefore they instead seek to suppress us.

One of the great things about Ozpol is that it does not practice censorship like so much of the internet.

I'm also in favor of trolling because it's funny, but that's a separate issue and one can make the case that there is merit in suppressing trolling depending on circumstances.

Coral Sea wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 12:54pm:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 3:38pm:

Do you like going to the toilet much  ?   

SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 11^th, 2018 at 3:54pm:

He did end his bulldust with the truth: that he is in favour of trolling!



On the internet that possibly deserves maximum credit!

I've seen a great many things in my time .. but the suggestion that racism is "objectively correct" and that bigotsare now being hunted as heretics were is so profoundly ofensive i don't know where to start.

Here's the best i can offer. without expecting you to have any kind of education at all ..... power. How does that present and what does it mean.

Go on, think three dimensionally.

SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 16^th, 2017 at 5:26pm:


I think the forum board rules work to the original definition of 'racism' before the word was mischievously and arbitrarily hijacked and re-jigged by the Hard Left to include such non-racist things such as someone's religion, cultural heritage, and country-of-origin. In my day 'racism' included nothing more than a person's racial appearance ... black or Asian features, etc.

And so a lot of what you think of as 'racist' commentary in the forum's posts are nothing of the sort, but are valid critiques of other people's religion and cultural idiosyncrasies ~ all perfectly fair game for non-sympathetic commentary.

Coral Sea wrote on Feb 12^th, 2018 at 1:52am:


What does your incorrect notions of equality have to do with why you use racial slurs and the weakness that immediately puts your argument in?

And equality is a religious sacrament? So you think, but you're wrong.  Religious messages are far mixed to claim that. I am as anti-religious as it gets. Even if you consider it a religious notion as in there is no objective reason to support such a position other than "you have to" and not part of any specific faith you're wrong there too. 

Before I go even further, I'm making an assumption here, but you post like we have a different interpretation of what equality means.  You post as if to you it means an unfair advantage to non-whites and anyone who supports equality is anti-white.

To me it just means a level playing field for everyone.  Someone's success depends on their own hard work, not the colour of their skin, their gender or whatever other roadblocks have been ingrained in our societies.  To many who are accustomed to having the advantages of being the benificiaries of the lack of equality, I can see how a level playing field for all may be an uncomfortable notion.

For the alt-right who go on about hard work, being self made yadda yadda, you'd think they'd support equality.  But like their demands of free speech etc, they only like it when it directly helps them or their cause.  There is no genuine care of free speech, or "hard work", it's all bullshit.

And no, let me stop you there, equality doesn't mean open borders.

There will always be differences between people and nations but if humanity wants any sort of longevity we have to work together.

And no, I don't mean a one world government and no I'm not a globalist or whatever other label you want to throw around to dismiss what I'm saying. 

When we had rocks and sticks and were nomadic tribes yes, survival of the fittest and forced procreation and the other baser animal instincts were important to grow the human race, but with an estimated 9 billion people on the planet by 2050 we need to find a better way. 

Going backwards to ways and notions that may have worked in the 60's, be they how we treat or "control" women, or even overtly nationalist trade policies, they just won't work in today's world.  They barely worked then.

And I know what you'll say, the Liberals had their chance and look at the mess we're in, well yes, but also no.  Did the Liberals in the last, let's only go back 3 terms, did they ever get to enact the policies they started with?  NO.  They always got watered down or sabotaged by the conservatives to pass into law.  Even Obamacare was one of them. 

No side can claim superiority here.  This is why today more than ever, the facts and the reality of the situations is the most important thing.

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Well good luck with that.  Again, it isn't hard to have a debate on immigration if you rely on the facts and evidence.  It's when you start using the racial slurs or cannot support your position with anything else but fear and discrimination that people will tune out. 

Yes, there are plenty on the left that make me hate that I sit on the left of the middle and it's hard to think I get lumped with them.  Let the Milo's of the world speak, let them share their message.  We can't grow if we don't listen.  The alt-right aren't perfect either.

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Some do, but not me.  I just take issue with the racial slurs.  I've said it before, if you have to use them to make your point rather than rely on the fact, you've already lost.

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We agree there.  But let's not forget that much of the racism you're trying to reclaim has been justified by religion just as much if not more than equality is.  If I'm a religious zealot then so are you.

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I gave you a chance but you admitted that you were just trolling.  You can't simply talk with a troll...  That's not how it works.  You should know that better than anyone.  Don't like it, stop trolling, pretty simple.

Again, another example of the double standard, you love to troll but can't take someone not even trolling you, but simply shining the spotlight on you not the topic at hand?

Do you need a sitdown snowflake?  How about a safe space?

Please...

Amadd wrote on Apr 20^th, 2017 at 12:43am:


Jewish is a religion too

Spot

Islamophobia is myth. People see dreadful atrocities committed in the name of Islam, and they have right to condemn Islam and speak about it here. Its an Islamic problem, and Muzlims who do nothing about it are complicit by their silence. And there are many cases of support of their so-called martyrs.

The problem in West is exacerbated by people making excuses for Muzlims on the feeble notion that all cultures have the same value, something Muzlims repudiate by their action, and their inaction. Its not our place to shelter them from themselves.

If the moderators, choose to allow the above opinions, the likes of Ross and Karnal have nothing to accuse them of, but the myth of a phobia.

240 Anti-infidel murders committed by Muzlims in France in 3 years.

mothra wrote on Apr 18^th, 2017 at 12:40am:


How are things at the fat farm, Mothra? I'd be less inclined to call you a fat fəking pig if you weren't so god damned rude.

"Race" is a social construct.  It was created as a concept in the mid-18th century by European "anthropolists" to justify European imperialism.   It has no scientific basis.  Genetically, we are all from the same pool.  We are all Africans by ancestry and we all share the same Genes.  It is what allows us to interbreed. 

The colour of one's skin/shape of one's eyes/the thickness of one's lips/the shape of one's nose does not determine anything other than one's superficial appearance.  It has no effect on one's mental capacities, no effect on one's behaviour, despite what the Racists may claim.  Racists use the concepts of "race" to justify their white supremacist viewpoint.  The differences which are so important to them are superficial - they are evolutionary adaptations to local conditions where humanity evolved, nothing more. 

Until they jettison their biological determinist viewpoint which relies upon the concepts of Eugenics and accept the scientific findings of Genetics, they will simply be continuing their racist diatribes.  The world has moved on, thankfully.  Nazi-like beliefs in the "Untermensch" died in 1945.  We are all members of the only race, the Human one.   

Jasin wrote on Mar 27^th, 2018 at 6:15pm:


What bullshite.

Have you ever been out and seen what white people think of the local abos. We as a nation are definitely racists with regards to the indigenous population/race.

Jasin wrote on Mar 27^th, 2018 at 6:46pm:


Where do you live?

Have you been to Melbourne and Sydney lately and speak to people about the influx of Muslums and Asians....... and their views.

Our laws and common practices are not racists like other countries but.... racism is growing. Before we just took the piss out of the wogs, now I feel an undercurrent of racism growing.

Bobby. wrote on Mar 27^th, 2018 at 7:25pm:


It means the exact opposite, actually.

Super Nova wrote on Mar 27^th, 2018 at 7:03pm:


Go back to your Media land SuperNova.
You live a life that you see via the Media lens.

The Media is very bias to the well-being of Asia, Europe & Africa (from it's yet 'official' home of Oceania ...where it's celebrities live on their little island resorts).
The Media just doesn't relate to anything in USA (Namerica), Australia (Sahul) and Samerica, let alone the Middle-East.
Trump used the Internet to win over the USA people.
Hillary Clinton used Media Murdoch Inc to win over the people.
Guess who won!? 

Oh, I've lived in both Sydney and Melbourne - just to see the difference.
Verdict - two wrongs don't make a right.
Because in Australia ...its all about the 'country', not the 'city' 

Go back to your Media TV Supernova and your 'wish' to cliché racism here for your Media sanctimonious inabilities.

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 27^th, 2018 at 7:36pm:


Yes well, we can all see how the USA is full of 'Terrorists' too. They love shooting little children for starters.

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 27^th, 2018 at 7:48pm:


That's because they have the psychological profile to be the White version of Terrorist,
but they are just typical of the white race and too gutless to 'terrorise' the non-white ones in retaliation.
Instead, they blame the Politicians [i]"Won't let us" like gimps on a dog leash.
If they had some balls, they would go out there and blow themselves up at some Moslem Mosque gathering.
They're all talk and no action GP. 

Jasin wrote on Mar 27^th, 2018 at 7:55pm:


Amen

Bobby. wrote on Mar 27^th, 2018 at 8:04pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 27^th, 2018 at 8:22pm:

Cheers GP - that's a good one.

Bobby. wrote on Mar 27^th, 2018 at 8:36pm:


Because you're a Coward who wants other people to do the (your) dirty work for you.

Bobby. wrote on Mar 27^th, 2018 at 9:09pm:



But then again - I might enjoy doing my duty for society
unlike most of the panzies like you & Greggy on this forum.[/quote]

And you say the dumbest things sometimes Bobby, because you're afraid to appear wrong.

How many times have I admitted that I've been 'wrong'?
Eh Bobby?
Quite a few and even apologised as well.

"Fear is the Mind-killer"

Bobby
Careful, you're losing your head. 

https://marrinergroup.com.au/shows/star-wogs

Mattyfisk wrote on May 12^th, 2018 at 2:18pm:


Indians go poop 

Mattyfisk wrote on May 12^th, 2018 at 2:18pm:


You left out Aussie. He wants to destroy Israel, even if he kills 10 million Jews in the process. That's the price of peace, apparently. And he defends Gandalf's mindless collective of treacherous Jews meme by insisting Gandalf never actually said it and closing his eyes whenever I produce quotes. Aussie was instrumental in moving at least one political discussion forum to this site.

Arabia for Arabs, innit.

freediver wrote on May 12^th, 2018 at 6:01pm:


Innit. What terrible things Aussie must come up with, FD. Fancy saying G never came up with the term mindless collective of treacherous Jews. What's he saying - that you said it?

You're right, FD. Aussie's really mean. He upholds the use of truth in his campaign against, well, you, no?

Karnal is also pretty racist. That's why I let him post here.

Falah was also big on racism. He liked to complain that aborigines were not violent enough towards white people, and how great it was that Muslims taught the ones in the top end to slaughter the infidel.

Oh, and there is a whole thread on Gandalf's racism. Europeans are to blame for millions of deaths due to European diseases. They are still racking up the body count today.

freediver wrote on May 12^th, 2018 at 6:30pm:


Exactly. I did, after all, say that Ularu belongs to a certain tribe of Boongs.

Wacist.

freediver wrote on May 12^th, 2018 at 6:30pm:


Nonsense. They're Arab diseases as you pointed out - particularly that nasty starvation gene the Belgians accidentally introduced when they were bringing Freeedom to the Congo.

Frank wrote on May 12^th, 2018 at 9:04pm:


Sorry, old boy, that's my cue. I nearly spilled my glass of water. You didn't see my lips move, yes? That's why I'm such a marvellous ventriloquist and you're a second-hand wooden puppet with a fake monocle and a silly bow tie.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to smoke my pipe.

...!

Now now, that's enough from you, old boy. I've a good mind to put you back in your box. We're a family act, we don't do blue, dear.

...

Oh, I know. I've had my hand up there so long I'm due for overtime. You can thank me after the show, old boy.

A calm and considered response Karnal. Well done.

Gordon wrote on May 12^th, 2018 at 2:34pm:


I did, of course, forget Gordon, a member of the Judenrat tasked with routing out the tinted races before the Nazis turn on him.

Gordon is a member of that vast globalist conspiracy to control the money supply and enact the one-world government. He flew here. Gordon has property in Harris Park where he houses the tinted races. The Nazis-proper will have him when it's time.

skippy. wrote on May 13^th, 2018 at 5:57pm:


Wacists, are they?

Hear that, Aussie? You must have gone native with that Curry wife of yours.

I must admit, you were most vocal about the ownership of Ularu. You obviously can't stand Whitey.

As Herbie would say, how very dare you?

freediver wrote on May 13^th, 2018 at 8:40pm:


Decent white people everywhere, as every schoolboy knows.

freediver wrote on May 13^th, 2018 at 8:40pm:



If too many people are banned there will only be Aussie & Monk
left & even they will start arguing in Relationships.
They might as well take their bat & ball & go back to Monk's joint now.

Aussie wrote on May 13^th, 2018 at 9:07pm:


Interesting. So if Herbie or Matty's socks sulk, say, FD loses ad revenue.

If they're kept angry and happy and mindlessly posting away, they keep up the Google rankings.

It's in all our interests to keep them frothing, ja?

Aussie wrote on May 13^th, 2018 at 9:49pm:



masters? - I have only one master - brother master Light.

If you misuse your forum to write 100 pages of crap about another moderator
then expect it to backfire in your face one day.
It was more than crap - just straight out abuse.
It's a pity because Monk actually has a lot to offer if
he could stop his childish abuse of other members.
Even you can hardly write a sentence without abuse -
not PA member but sewer rat.
not messenger but snake oil salesman.
When will you grow up - are you having a second childhood?

You even tried a coup d'état  because I didn't post for a week.
I didn't hear you trying to get rid of Vic & he's been away for a while.
You couldn't wait to knife me in the back.

You're a wicked man & Skippy was right to follow suit.

Take your trolling and your nastiness & petty arguments back to
Monk's forum where at least no one is there to read it.

Mattyfisk wrote on May 13^th, 2018 at 10:58pm:


Me too.  He sends me begs to meet single Muslim women!

How weird is that?

Mattyfisk wrote on May 13^th, 2018 at 9:36pm:


At over 55900 posts of drive past drivel and diversion you are doing more for FDs revenue than Herbie.

You have tried that rubbish argument previously,  before being mugged by the background static of your own output. 

Secret Wars wrote on May 14^th, 2018 at 8:16am:


Here's one, FD. What ad will you sell to Secret?

Something divine, I hope. Miam miam.

polite_gandalf wrote on May 15^th, 2018 at 9:35pm:

What? I feel your pain. I can’t believe he said those towel heads squat to pee.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/forum-rules.html

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Panther wrote on Jan 14^th, 2019 at 12:30pm:


Panther wrote on Jan 14^th, 2019 at 8:53am:


What's the go?  This poster and plenty others are just spewing this out there, condoned or not?

The owner FleaDriver is a bigot and a racist and an employee of Mossad Propaganda Services.

I'm a "newbie" here, and I must admit, I was shocked by the level of racism and bigotry on display here.

Surprising in this day and age for a public board to let this obscene level of racism go on without dealing with it. 

Thumbs up to that Cods.

Captain Nemo wrote on Jan 14^th, 2019 at 3:50pm:




this has been going on for a while nemo.....

it is only the few   or one or two that seem to go over board....we need school monitors still... ..

why some show themselves up like they do I will never know. .....dont judge everyone though   we are not all like that...