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Does OzPol care about blatant racism and trolling?
Apr 16th, 2017 at 5:26pm
 
I've read the forum rules and I notice that many on here don't bother to follow them, especially when it comes to being racist when the topic isn't even about race.

Is there any enforcement of the rules or are they merely a formality in running a forum?

Is it safe to assume that those who moderate or even own the forum condone that kind of activity which is why it goes unmoderated?

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Reply #1 - Apr 18th, 2017 at 12:40am
 
Not in the slightest.

I am constantly amazed at the regular displays of pig-ignorant racism and Islamophobia on this site.

I honestly don't understand how they are not ashamed by association with each other.

I mean, if any of them agreed with me on anything, i would be mortified.
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Reply #2 - Apr 19th, 2017 at 10:40pm
 
At the very least the endless muslim bashing threads should be moved from the "General board" to one of the member run boards (islam or multiculturalism & Race). Other threads get moved so there should be some consistency shown. Too many Muslim bashing threads are polluting the General Board
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Reply #3 - Apr 19th, 2017 at 11:48pm
 
Sad Kangaroo wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 5:26pm:
I've read the forum rules and I notice that many on here don't bother to follow them, especially when it comes to being racist when the topic isn't even about race



It's terrible isn't it, I bought a bag of jellybeans for the kids and for some reason nobody wanted to eat the black ones.

Why do kids avoid black jellybeans?

Are you one of these idiots who thinks muslims are a race of people, can I change my race by reciting the shahada?
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Reply #4 - Apr 20th, 2017 at 12:16am
 
There are rules?  I'm amazed, I've always assumed there were none after the way in which certain people continually behave.   Racism/Xenophobia/Islamophobia are rife and they seem to get upset when I identify them as such.  Tsk, tsk, if they want to get nasty, oh, well...    Roll Eyes
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Reply #5 - Apr 20th, 2017 at 12:43am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 19th, 2017 at 11:48pm:
Sad Kangaroo wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 5:26pm:
I've read the forum rules and I notice that many on here don't bother to follow them, especially when it comes to being racist when the topic isn't even about race



It's terrible isn't it, I bought a bag of jellybeans for the kids and for some reason nobody wanted to eat the black ones.

Why do kids avoid black jellybeans?

Are you one of these idiots who thinks muslims are a race of people, can I change my race by reciting the shahada?


I will never ever accept Islam as a nation. It's just another faulty religion.
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Reply #6 - Apr 20th, 2017 at 11:42am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 19th, 2017 at 11:48pm:
It's terrible isn't it, I bought a bag of jellybeans for the kids and for some reason nobody wanted to eat the black ones.

Why do kids avoid black jellybeans?

Are you one of these idiots who thinks muslims are a race of people, can I change my race by reciting the shahada?


I appreciate your input Baronvonrort, but, it's not that type of idiocy I was referring to.  To be clear, the "idiocy" I mean in my last statement is not that people confuse a faith with a race, but that people think they can excuse their bigotry and hate towards people of a certain faith because someone calls it racism.  That's not a valid defense. 

I personally understand the difference between a religion and a race but I also understand what bigotry is, but again, this isn't what I was referring to with my original question.

You have every right to be a bigot and express those feelings, just don't pretend to be a victim when you're held accountable for it, but since I believe that was just another example of the attempted deflection and offtopic distraction away from a thread's original topic, you've kind of displayed some of what I'm asking about.

There are blatant racial slurs targeting Asians, Indigenous Australians, African Americans etc most often directed as personal attacks towards other posters to avoid dealing with the points they've raised.  Threads get dragged off topic and then those being racist try to turn it around and painting themselves as the victim, it's all a mess.

I just wanted some clarity as to which rules matter since enforcement seems random and some rules look to exist only in case someone goes too far and the authorities get involved as a sort of indemnity to the board owner/mods.

I try not to bash people's ears in the real world by talking politics all the time and I thought this could be an outlet to do so.  I checked the rules before joining and thought it seemed like a good match.  This place wouldn't be overly moderated, I could be exposed to views of others I don't agree with and would probably not get in the circles I'm in "irl" but I wasn't expecting to see so much blatant racism, homophobia and rather than an exchange of ideas, petty childish attacks on posters using the aforementioned.  That all seems counter to the rules, but it happens en masse.

Hence wanting to know if it happens because perhaps the board has grown larger than the current mods can handle, or if this is simply condoned by them and the owner even if it is counter to their claimed and established rules?

It's a simple question, not sure why it triggered you there Baronvonrort.


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Reply #7 - Aug 27th, 2017 at 4:24pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 12:16am:
There are rules?  I'm amazed, I've always assumed there were none after the way in which certain people continually behave.   Racism/Xenophobia/Islamophobia are rife and they seem to get upset when I identify them as such.  Tsk, tsk, if they want to get nasty, oh, well...    Roll Eyes


Brian,

I'm not an islamophobe.  However, I would rather people express themselves moderately than feel they can't talk at all.  If people can't have open and honest discussions, how else do you criticise flawed ideas?  There is a belief that stopping people publicly discussing something makes it disappear.

I've focused on the US politics for too long.  I'm now trying to direct my focus back to Australia.  I may be walking into a bear trap here (eg. most Australians may only like free speech if they agree with what is said).

Personally, I find fact to be the best response, not political correctness.  For example, how can you generalise all Muslims as being bad?  I know good Muslims who I trust implicitly.

Keep in mind, if someone says 'all whiteys are racist', i'll find it as racist as 'all Muslims are terrorists'.  I'd rather people have the right to express both.  It also allows me to see how different people think.  I had a great chat with a guy from antifa (who hated whiteys, loved violence and wanted to destroy democracy - he was at Charlottesville as part of the counter protesters).  If the mods of that forum were politcally correct, I would never have been able to listen to what he had to say.  We had a great public discussion.  I feel i'm better informed for listening.
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Reply #8 - Feb 8th, 2018 at 2:26pm
 
Some more recent examples,

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1517990955/4#4
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 7th, 2018 at 9:49pm:
good ! bring him to australia and send all of those trouble making gollywogs to the US.


http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1515637030/38#38
Panther wrote on Feb 7th, 2018 at 2:42pm:
On the other hand the ex-HNIC got away with not providing the legally required documentation. There will come a day when a good lawyer will sue & win a case for his client(s) pertaining to the Obama Administrations legitimacy, & if won, the ramifications to legislation he signed into law may be at risk.

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Reply #9 - Feb 9th, 2018 at 12:06am
 
Blue Jay wrote on Aug 27th, 2017 at 4:24pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 12:16am:
There are rules?  I'm amazed, I've always assumed there were none after the way in which certain people continually behave.   Racism/Xenophobia/Islamophobia are rife and they seem to get upset when I identify them as such.  Tsk, tsk, if they want to get nasty, oh, well...    Roll Eyes


Brian,

I'm not an islamophobe.  However, I would rather people express themselves moderately than feel they can't talk at all.  If people can't have open and honest discussions, how else do you criticise flawed ideas?  There is a belief that stopping people publicly discussing something makes it disappear.

I've focused on the US politics for too long.  I'm now trying to direct my focus back to Australia.  I may be walking into a bear trap here (eg. most Australians may only like free speech if they agree with what is said).

Personally, I find fact to be the best response, not political correctness.  For example, how can you generalise all Muslims as being bad?  I know good Muslims who I trust implicitly.

Keep in mind, if someone says 'all whiteys are racist', i'll find it as racist as 'all Muslims are terrorists'.  I'd rather people have the right to express both.  It also allows me to see how different people think.  I had a great chat with a guy from antifa (who hated whiteys, loved violence and wanted to destroy democracy - he was at Charlottesville as part of the counter protesters).  If the mods of that forum were politcally correct, I would never have been able to listen to what he had to say.  We had a great public discussion.  I feel i'm better informed for listening.


Hear, hear.
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Reply #10 - Feb 11th, 2018 at 12:54pm
 
I am in favor of blatant racism and Islamophobia.

Both are objectively correct.

Liberals, who believe in lies, are unable to counter our arguments since they are true.

Therefore they instead seek to suppress us.

One of the great things about Ozpol is that it does not practice censorship like so much of the internet.

I'm also in favor of trolling because it's funny, but that's a separate issue and one can make the case that there is merit in suppressing trolling depending on circumstances.
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Reply #11 - Feb 11th, 2018 at 3:21pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 12:16am:
There are rules?  I'm amazed, I've always assumed there were none after the way in which certain people continually behave.   Racism/Xenophobia/Islamophobia are rife and they seem to get upset when I identify them as such.  Tsk, tsk, if they want to get nasty, oh, well...    Roll Eyes


It begs the question Brian as to how you could avoid becoming an authoritarian censor if you should become Mod on the MultiCulti board.
Tsk tsk.
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Reply #12 - Feb 11th, 2018 at 3:36pm
 
Coral Sea wrote on Feb 11th, 2018 at 12:54pm:
I am in favor of blatant racism and Islamophobia.

Both are objectively correct.

Liberals, who believe in lies, are unable to counter our arguments since they are true.

Therefore they instead seek to suppress us.

One of the great things about Ozpol is that it does not practice censorship like so much of the internet.

I'm also in favor of trolling because it's funny, but that's a separate issue and one can make the case that there is merit in suppressing trolling depending on circumstances.

So, basically, you're saying everything depends?

Grin Grin

Like I always say: we're all trolls so a get a weg dog upya hey buddy  Grin
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Reply #13 - Feb 11th, 2018 at 3:38pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Feb 11th, 2018 at 3:21pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 12:16am:
There are rules?  I'm amazed, I've always assumed there were none after the way in which certain people continually behave.   Racism/Xenophobia/Islamophobia are rife and they seem to get upset when I identify them as such.  Tsk, tsk, if they want to get nasty, oh, well...    Roll Eyes


It begs the question Brian as to how you could avoid becoming an authoritarian censor if you should become Mod on the MultiCulti board.
Tsk tsk.


Just take a look at Debate and Relate for your answer to that one.
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Reply #14 - Feb 11th, 2018 at 3:40pm
 
Mistress Nicole wrote on Feb 11th, 2018 at 3:38pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Feb 11th, 2018 at 3:21pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 12:16am:
There are rules?  I'm amazed, I've always assumed there were none after the way in which certain people continually behave.   Racism/Xenophobia/Islamophobia are rife and they seem to get upset when I identify them as such.  Tsk, tsk, if they want to get nasty, oh, well...    Roll Eyes


It begs the question Brian as to how you could avoid becoming an authoritarian censor if you should become Mod on the MultiCulti board.
Tsk tsk.


Just take a look at Debate and Relate for your answer to that one.

Do you like going to the toilet much  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin ?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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