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Re: Which senators understand senate elections?
Reply #15 - Apr 13th, 2017 at 9:49pm
 
Got a non-answer from Barry O'Sullivan's (LNP) office yesterday. They were good enough to give me a link to the aph.gov.au page explaining how it works. They did not say anything at all about which method the LNP would support in future for allocating short and long term Senate seats.
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Reply #16 - Apr 15th, 2017 at 10:32pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 13th, 2017 at 9:49pm:
Got a non-answer from Barry O'Sullivan's (LNP) office yesterday. They were good enough to give me a link to the aph.gov.au page explaining how it works. They did not say anything at all about which method the LNP would support in future for allocating short and long term Senate seats.

They wouldn't. They would prefer to keep their options open if they needed to steal another long-term Senate seat in the future.
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Reply #17 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:25am
 
juliar wrote on Mar 31st, 2017 at 4:46pm:
All the "independents" care about is the MONEY!!!!


I would think that the Independents in general care more than the reps from the Major and smaller Party's

These guys take the pay check and support policies that other people develop and believe in. They routinely vote on the party line even when they do not believe it to be the right thing to do.
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Reply #18 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:30am
 
freediver wrote on Apr 13th, 2017 at 9:49pm:
Got a non-answer from Barry O'Sullivan's (LNP) office yesterday. They were good enough to give me a link to the aph.gov.au page explaining how it works. They did not say anything at all about which method the LNP would support in future for allocating short and long term Senate seats.


They are happy with their current position of making a retrospective decision based on which method will benefit them the most in that particular situation.
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Reply #19 - Apr 19th, 2017 at 9:30pm
 
Got a response from an LNP Senator that appears to support either the order-elected method, or the Senate's right to choose the method. It's a bit unclear. The only thing he was clear on was "I see no reason to change", which I guess is a vote for maintaining uncertainty so the LNP can steal more seats in the future.
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Reply #20 - May 19th, 2017 at 9:54pm
 
In lieu of a response, the Greens sent me this:

As Greens portfolio holder and spokesperson for Democracy, Senator Lee Rhiannon has made a number of comments about this subject. You can find her opinion piece at:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/aug/05/greens-lee-rhiannon-labor-method-six-year-senate-terms-double-dissolution

, and watch her speech on the issue here:

http://lee-rhiannon.greensmps.org.au/articles/speech-election-senators
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