mothra wrote on Mar 29
th, 2017 at 2:18pm:
Gnads wrote on Mar 29
th, 2017 at 2:13pm:
mothra wrote on Mar 29
th, 2017 at 12:14pm:
Gnads wrote on Mar 29
th, 2017 at 12:04pm:
mothra wrote on Mar 29
th, 2017 at 10:07am:
Did you see Hammer trying to introduce the same verse again as "evidence" (in his unreferenced copy and paste bomb from thereligionofpeace) after it had already been explained three times?
This, and the citing from Gnads, came after i had already addressed it back on the first page.
But Hammer has to get the wooden spoon.
Just goes to show, Islamophobes only read what they want to read ... and what they want to read is the extremist and widely discredited cite, thereligionofpeace.
And you do the exactly the same to suit your agenda.
Hypocrites much.
Not at all. I read thereligionofpeace. And Jidadwatch .. and all sorts of hateful, extremist propaganda.
How else do you think i am able to discredit it so readily?the difference between you and i is i don't accept it at face value. I do my research.
That is how you got owned.
You're so full of yourself you'll explode.
You discredit nothing .... the links you post attempt to
And for every link either I or you post there's one to counter it
seems a moot point
bottom line is you wear rose coloured glasses & believe in the tooth fairy.
No Gnads. Wrong on all counts.
There is no proclamation in the Quran for death to apostates.
This has been proven. You were wrong. You believed a hate site and didn't do your own research. You got busted. Best you move on to the next point. Holding onto your mistakes is not serving you in any productive way.
And of course there aare always going to be links to counter other links. The trick is to analyse what you read, read the counter argument and discern the truth from that.
The other trick is to go to reputable sources.
I went straight to the Quran.
You went to thereligionofpeace.
Not by you.
https://www.clearquran.com/downloads/quran-english-translation-clearquran-editio... Quote:Chapter 47. Muhammad -
3. That is because those who disbelieve follow
falsehoods, while those who believe follow
the truth from their Lord. Allah thus cites for
the people their examples.
4. When you encounter those who disbelieve,
strike at their necks. Then, when you have
routed them, bind them firmly. Then, either
release them by grace, or by ransom, until
war lays down its burdens. Had Allah willed,
He could have defeated them Himself, but He
thus tests some of you by means of others. As
for those who are killed in the way of Allah,
He will not let their deeds go to waste.
Quote:Chapter 9. Repentance:-
5. When the Sacred Months have passed, kill
the polytheists wherever you find them. And
capture them, and besiege them, and lie in
wait for them at every ambush.
14. Fight them. Allah will punish them at your
hands, and humiliate them, and help you
against them, and heal the hearts of a believing
people.
Quote:29. Fight those who do not believe in Allah,
nor in the Last Day, nor forbid what Allah
and His Messenger have forbidden, nor abide
by the religion of truth—from among those
who received the Scripture—until they pay
the due tax, willingly or unwillingly.
There is plenty of reference throughout the book that "non-believers" ... and apostates are non believers ..
are to be killed.
You've owned no one & nothing.
Yes, i have proven you quite wrong. Those verses do not apply to apostates.
There is no recommendation that apostates be executed in the Quran.