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Re: Hizb ut-Tahrir in Australia
Reply #150 - Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:05pm

Gordon wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:03pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:07am:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 31^st, 2017 at 9:55pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 31^st, 2017 at 7:28pm:

HBT is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hizb_ut-Tahrir#Goals.2C_methods.2C_and_organizatio... banned or proscribed in many countries.
HBT members see themselves as true Muslims who uphold Islam and the true role and future of Islam.

Rather like Fred Phelp's family see themselves as the only true Christians, hey, Geoff? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Brian, there are more members of HuT in Sydney alone than the total members that have EVER been in Westboro.

Really? Prove it, please. Roll Eyes

Tsk, tsk, no evidence, Gordon? How unsurprising. Roll Eyes

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You're comparing a grape with a monster pumpkin. What else ya got?

Nope. What I am doing is using the Westboro Baptist Church as an example of the logical fallacy of the original statement, Gordon. It works well, don't you think? Cool

It would work if Westboro were not a miniscule aberration of just a few 100 people .
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You cannot disprove my statement, Gordon, can you? Cool

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Re: Hizb ut-Tahrir in Australia
Reply #151 - Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:06pm

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:05pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:03pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:07am:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 31^st, 2017 at 9:55pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 31^st, 2017 at 7:28pm:

HBT is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hizb_ut-Tahrir#Goals.2C_methods.2C_and_organizatio... banned or proscribed in many countries.
HBT members see themselves as true Muslims who uphold Islam and the true role and future of Islam.

Rather like Fred Phelp's family see themselves as the only true Christians, hey, Geoff? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Brian, there are more members of HuT in Sydney alone than the total members that have EVER been in Westboro.

Really? Prove it, please. Roll Eyes

Tsk, tsk, no evidence, Gordon? How unsurprising. Roll Eyes

Quote:

You're comparing a grape with a monster pumpkin. What else ya got?

Nope. What I am doing is using the Westboro Baptist Church as an example of the logical fallacy of the original statement, Gordon. It works well, don't you think? Cool

It would work if Westboro were not a miniscule aberration of just a few 100 people .

You cannot disprove my statement, Gordon, can you? Cool

Westboro used as a comparison for anything is just intellectually dishonest. Look at their size! Look at HuT in Sydney alone.

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 51464 Gender:	Re: Hizb ut-Tahrir in Australia Reply #152 - Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:08pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:05pm: You cannot disprove my statement, Gordon, can you? You are standing up for the hizbies, arsehole, you know that. Why would you o such a thing?
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Re: Hizb ut-Tahrir in Australia
Reply #153 - Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 1:57pm

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 7:50pm:

Indonesia is well on it's way to becoming the second richest economy in the world. Malaysia is close behind. Looks like your views are alarmist, Valkie. Your Islamophobia bigotry is showing again. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

You are still out of your mind, Brian.

Why the bloody hell are we and others giving aid to a country that is supposedly well on it's way to becoming the second richest economy in the world??

It is the second largest recipient of Australian aid after PNG.

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Re: Hizb ut-Tahrir in Australia
Reply #154 - Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 2:11pm

Gordon wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:05pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:03pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:07am:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 31^st, 2017 at 9:55pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 31^st, 2017 at 7:28pm:

HBT is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hizb_ut-Tahrir#Goals.2C_methods.2C_and_organizatio... banned or proscribed in many countries.
HBT members see themselves as true Muslims who uphold Islam and the true role and future of Islam.

Rather like Fred Phelp's family see themselves as the only true Christians, hey, Geoff? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Brian, there are more members of HuT in Sydney alone than the total members that have EVER been in Westboro.

Really? Prove it, please. Roll Eyes

Tsk, tsk, no evidence, Gordon? How unsurprising. Roll Eyes

Quote:

You're comparing a grape with a monster pumpkin. What else ya got?

Nope. What I am doing is using the Westboro Baptist Church as an example of the logical fallacy of the original statement, Gordon. It works well, don't you think? Cool

It would work if Westboro were not a miniscule aberration of just a few 100 people .

You cannot disprove my statement, Gordon, can you? Cool

Westboro used as a comparison for anything is just intellectually dishonest. Look at their size! Look at HuT in Sydney alone.

If you are looking for a comparison to Islam, there aren't many options.

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Re: Hizb ut-Tahrir in Australia
Reply #155 - Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 2:45pm

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 7:43pm:

Gnads wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 8:41am:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 31^st, 2017 at 9:55pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 31^st, 2017 at 7:28pm:

HBT is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hizb_ut-Tahrir#Goals.2C_methods.2C_and_organizatio... banned or proscribed in many countries.
HBT members see themselves as true Muslims who uphold Islam and the true role and future of Islam.

Rather like Fred Phelp's family see themselves as the only true Christians, hey, Geoff? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Keep trotting out the Westboro Baptists Church & it's 39 members Brian ....

it's all you've got. Roll Eyes

Tsk tsk tsk.

Meanwhile there are millions of Muslims with radical fundamentalist attitudes & agendas all over the globe.

And how many Billions of Muslims don't have those attitudes or beliefs, Gnads? Next you'll be telling us we should fear all Americans 'cause the Westboro Baptists are representative of their attitudes... Roll Eyes

No that's what you've done in this thread.

You trot out 40 people to compare to millions.

How many billions you ask?

Durrrrhhhh ... none

because there's only 1.6 billion in total

the % of Sharia supporting fundamentalists & radicals varying depending on the source.

at a very conservative 1% that's 16 million.

Makes your 40 zealous Baptists look nothing at 0.00000181818% of 2.2 billion Christians. Tsk tsk.

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Re: Hizb ut-Tahrir in Australia
Reply #156 - Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 2:47pm

Gordon wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:03pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:07am:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 31^st, 2017 at 9:55pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 31^st, 2017 at 7:28pm:

HBT is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hizb_ut-Tahrir#Goals.2C_methods.2C_and_organizatio... banned or proscribed in many countries.
HBT members see themselves as true Muslims who uphold Islam and the true role and future of Islam.

Rather like Fred Phelp's family see themselves as the only true Christians, hey, Geoff? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Brian, there are more members of HuT in Sydney alone than the total members that have EVER been in Westboro.

Really? Prove it, please. Roll Eyes

Quote:

You're comparing a grape with a monster pumpkin. What else ya got?

Nope. What I am doing is using the Westboro Baptist Church as an example of the logical fallacy of the original statement, Gordon. It works well, don't you think? Cool

It would work if Westboro were not a miniscule aberration of just a few 100 people .

They are less .... they are around 40.

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Re: Hizb ut-Tahrir in Australia
Reply #157 - Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 3:21pm

Gordon wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:05pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:03pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:07am:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 31^st, 2017 at 9:55pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 31^st, 2017 at 7:28pm:

HBT is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hizb_ut-Tahrir#Goals.2C_methods.2C_and_organizatio... banned or proscribed in many countries.
HBT members see themselves as true Muslims who uphold Islam and the true role and future of Islam.

Rather like Fred Phelp's family see themselves as the only true Christians, hey, Geoff? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Brian, there are more members of HuT in Sydney alone than the total members that have EVER been in Westboro.

Really? Prove it, please. Roll Eyes

Tsk, tsk, no evidence, Gordon? How unsurprising. Roll Eyes

Quote:

You're comparing a grape with a monster pumpkin. What else ya got?

Nope. What I am doing is using the Westboro Baptist Church as an example of the logical fallacy of the original statement, Gordon. It works well, don't you think? Cool

It would work if Westboro were not a miniscule aberration of just a few 100 people .

You cannot disprove my statement, Gordon, can you? Cool

Westboro used as a comparison for anything is just intellectually dishonest. Look at their size! Look at HuT in Sydney alone.

So you claim, Gordon. You have yet to prove it... Roll Eyes

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Re: Hizb ut-Tahrir in Australia
Reply #158 - Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 3:25pm

freediver wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 2:11pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:05pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:03pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:07am:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 31^st, 2017 at 9:55pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 31^st, 2017 at 7:28pm:

HBT is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hizb_ut-Tahrir#Goals.2C_methods.2C_and_organizatio... banned or proscribed in many countries.
HBT members see themselves as true Muslims who uphold Islam and the true role and future of Islam.

Rather like Fred Phelp's family see themselves as the only true Christians, hey, Geoff? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Brian, there are more members of HuT in Sydney alone than the total members that have EVER been in Westboro.

Really? Prove it, please. Roll Eyes

Tsk, tsk, no evidence, Gordon? How unsurprising. Roll Eyes

Quote:

You're comparing a grape with a monster pumpkin. What else ya got?

Nope. What I am doing is using the Westboro Baptist Church as an example of the logical fallacy of the original statement, Gordon. It works well, don't you think? Cool

It would work if Westboro were not a miniscule aberration of just a few 100 people .

You cannot disprove my statement, Gordon, can you? Cool

Westboro used as a comparison for anything is just intellectually dishonest. Look at their size! Look at HuT in Sydney alone.

If you are looking for a comparison to Islam, there aren't many options.

The Brotherhood
Opus Dei
The Army of God
Eastern Lightning, a.k.a. the Church of the Almighty God
The Lord’s Resistance Army (LRA)
The National Liberation Front of Tripura
The Phineas Priesthood
The Concerned Christians

just to name a few... Roll Eyes

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Re: Hizb ut-Tahrir in Australia
Reply #159 - Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 3:27pm

Gnads wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 2:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 7:43pm:

Gnads wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 8:41am:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 31^st, 2017 at 9:55pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 31^st, 2017 at 7:28pm:

HBT is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hizb_ut-Tahrir#Goals.2C_methods.2C_and_organizatio... banned or proscribed in many countries.
HBT members see themselves as true Muslims who uphold Islam and the true role and future of Islam.

Rather like Fred Phelp's family see themselves as the only true Christians, hey, Geoff? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Keep trotting out the Westboro Baptists Church & it's 39 members Brian ....

it's all you've got. Roll Eyes

Tsk tsk tsk.

Meanwhile there are millions of Muslims with radical fundamentalist attitudes & agendas all over the globe.

And how many Billions of Muslims don't have those attitudes or beliefs, Gnads? Next you'll be telling us we should fear all Americans 'cause the Westboro Baptists are representative of their attitudes... Roll Eyes

No that's what you've done in this thread.

You trot out 40 people to compare to millions.

How many billions you ask?

Durrrrhhhh ... none

because there's only 1.6 billion in total

the % of Sharia supporting fundamentalists & radicals varying depending on the source.

at a very conservative 1% that's 16 million.

Makes your 40 zealous Baptists look nothing at 0.00000181818% of 2.2 billion Christians. Tsk tsk.

Why do you insult your fellow Christians in the Westboro Baptist Church? Tsk, tsk, don't you have any respect for them? How disheartening, Gnads... Roll Eyes

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Re: Hizb ut-Tahrir in Australia
Reply #160 - Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 3:27pm

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 3:21pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:05pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:03pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:07am:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 31^st, 2017 at 9:55pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 31^st, 2017 at 7:28pm:

HBT is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hizb_ut-Tahrir#Goals.2C_methods.2C_and_organizatio... banned or proscribed in many countries.
HBT members see themselves as true Muslims who uphold Islam and the true role and future of Islam.

Rather like Fred Phelp's family see themselves as the only true Christians, hey, Geoff? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Brian, there are more members of HuT in Sydney alone than the total members that have EVER been in Westboro.

Really? Prove it, please. Roll Eyes

Tsk, tsk, no evidence, Gordon? How unsurprising. Roll Eyes

Quote:

You're comparing a grape with a monster pumpkin. What else ya got?

Nope. What I am doing is using the Westboro Baptist Church as an example of the logical fallacy of the original statement, Gordon. It works well, don't you think? Cool

It would work if Westboro were not a miniscule aberration of just a few 100 people .

You cannot disprove my statement, Gordon, can you? Cool

Westboro used as a comparison for anything is just intellectually dishonest. Look at their size! Look at HuT in Sydney alone.

So you claim, Gordon. You have yet to prove it... Roll Eyes

Prove what, that HuT exists?

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Re: Hizb ut-Tahrir in Australia
Reply #161 - Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 3:28pm

Frank wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 1:57pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 7:50pm:

Indonesia is well on it's way to becoming the second richest economy in the world. Malaysia is close behind. Looks like your views are alarmist, Valkie. Your Islamophobia bigotry is showing again. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

You are still out of your mind, Brian.

Why the bloody hell are we and others giving aid to a country that is supposedly well on it's way to becoming the second richest economy in the world??

It is the second largest recipient of Australian aid after PNG.

Because it is to our advantage to do so, Soren. Security costs. Roll Eyes

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Re: Hizb ut-Tahrir in Australia
Reply #162 - Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 3:33pm

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 3:25pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 2:11pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:05pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:03pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:07am:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 31^st, 2017 at 9:55pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 31^st, 2017 at 7:28pm:

HBT is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hizb_ut-Tahrir#Goals.2C_methods.2C_and_organizatio... banned or proscribed in many countries.
HBT members see themselves as true Muslims who uphold Islam and the true role and future of Islam.

Rather like Fred Phelp's family see themselves as the only true Christians, hey, Geoff? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Brian, there are more members of HuT in Sydney alone than the total members that have EVER been in Westboro.

Really? Prove it, please. Roll Eyes

Tsk, tsk, no evidence, Gordon? How unsurprising. Roll Eyes

Quote:

You're comparing a grape with a monster pumpkin. What else ya got?

Nope. What I am doing is using the Westboro Baptist Church as an example of the logical fallacy of the original statement, Gordon. It works well, don't you think? Cool

It would work if Westboro were not a miniscule aberration of just a few 100 people .

You cannot disprove my statement, Gordon, can you? Cool

Westboro used as a comparison for anything is just intellectually dishonest. Look at their size! Look at HuT in Sydney alone.

If you are looking for a comparison to Islam, there aren't many options.

The Brotherhood
Opus Dei
The Army of God
Eastern Lightning, a.k.a. the Church of the Almighty God
The Lord’s Resistance Army (LRA)
The National Liberation Front of Tripura
The Phineas Priesthood
The Concerned Christians

just to name a few... Roll Eyes

Oh no, not the concerned Christians....

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Re: Hizb ut-Tahrir in Australia
Reply #163 - Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 3:37pm

freediver wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 3:33pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 3:25pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 2:11pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:05pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:03pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:07am:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 31^st, 2017 at 9:55pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 31^st, 2017 at 7:28pm:

HBT is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hizb_ut-Tahrir#Goals.2C_methods.2C_and_organizatio... banned or proscribed in many countries.
HBT members see themselves as true Muslims who uphold Islam and the true role and future of Islam.

Rather like Fred Phelp's family see themselves as the only true Christians, hey, Geoff? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Brian, there are more members of HuT in Sydney alone than the total members that have EVER been in Westboro.

Really? Prove it, please. Roll Eyes

Tsk, tsk, no evidence, Gordon? How unsurprising. Roll Eyes

Quote:

You're comparing a grape with a monster pumpkin. What else ya got?

Nope. What I am doing is using the Westboro Baptist Church as an example of the logical fallacy of the original statement, Gordon. It works well, don't you think? Cool

It would work if Westboro were not a miniscule aberration of just a few 100 people .

You cannot disprove my statement, Gordon, can you? Cool

Westboro used as a comparison for anything is just intellectually dishonest. Look at their size! Look at HuT in Sydney alone.

If you are looking for a comparison to Islam, there aren't many options.

The Brotherhood
Opus Dei
The Army of God
Eastern Lightning, a.k.a. the Church of the Almighty God
The Lord’s Resistance Army (LRA)
The National Liberation Front of Tripura
The Phineas Priesthood
The Concerned Christians

just to name a few... Roll Eyes

Oh no, not the concerned Christians....

Yes, the Concerned Christians, an extremist Millenarian Cult formed in the US in the 1980s. Roll Eyes

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Re: Hizb ut-Tahrir in Australia
Reply #164 - Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 3:42pm

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 3:37pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 3:33pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 3:25pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2017 at 2:11pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:06pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:05pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:03pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 1^st, 2017 at 9:07am:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 31^st, 2017 at 9:55pm:

Grendel wrote on Mar 31^st, 2017 at 7:28pm:

HBT is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hizb_ut-Tahrir#Goals.2C_methods.2C_and_organizatio... banned or proscribed in many countries.
HBT members see themselves as true Muslims who uphold Islam and the true role and future of Islam.

Rather like Fred Phelp's family see themselves as the only true Christians, hey, Geoff? Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Brian, there are more members of HuT in Sydney alone than the total members that have EVER been in Westboro.

Really? Prove it, please. Roll Eyes

Tsk, tsk, no evidence, Gordon? How unsurprising. Roll Eyes

Quote:

You're comparing a grape with a monster pumpkin. What else ya got?

Nope. What I am doing is using the Westboro Baptist Church as an example of the logical fallacy of the original statement, Gordon. It works well, don't you think? Cool

It would work if Westboro were not a miniscule aberration of just a few 100 people .

You cannot disprove my statement, Gordon, can you? Cool

Westboro used as a comparison for anything is just intellectually dishonest. Look at their size! Look at HuT in Sydney alone.

If you are looking for a comparison to Islam, there aren't many options.

The Brotherhood
Opus Dei
The Army of God
Eastern Lightning, a.k.a. the Church of the Almighty God
The Lord’s Resistance Army (LRA)
The National Liberation Front of Tripura
The Phineas Priesthood
The Concerned Christians

just to name a few... Roll Eyes

Oh no, not the concerned Christians....

Yes, the Concerned Christians, an extremist Millenarian Cult formed in the US in the 1980s. Roll Eyes

Look out, Brian, adding that to Wesrboro we're up to about 120.

Concerned Christians is a group of at least 78 adults and children,

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