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The Republican Civil War
Mar 27^th, 2017 at 12:37pm

2017 was supposed to be a 'dream come true' for the Republicans. They had majorities in both houses of Congress and had won back the White House. In normal times, this would have been the GOP's best chance in an long time to implement their conservative agenda with little to no hindrance. The repeal of Obamacare was to be the first example of the 'low hanging' legislative fruit. It should have been easy, but it wasn't. It wasn't even simply difficult. It was impossible. And it is all because of Donald Trump.

In the first 100 days of new Presidential terms, approval ratings hang around the 70-90% range largely as a result that peculiar American habit of 'rallying around the President', even after a bitter campaign. Both of Trump's predecessors had approval ratings in the 80s and Obama even hit the 90s early on. But Trump is wallowing in the 30s and dropping fast. 20% ratings are considered not only a possibility, but inevitable.

Early in Clinton's first term. he proposed a tax measure that was unpopular among Democrats. However, Clinton was popular among the voters and he provided political cover for Congress to support this otherwise unpopular bill. Clinton succeeded. Trump however, with his 37% approval and the fact that it is falling rapidly, provides no cover for Republicans to support an unpopular bill. Quite the contrary, in fact. And so they all ran away from it.

Trump's failings are legion. His personal failings are plentiful and now we see that his political failings are even far worse. Frankly, he has no idea what he is doing and it shows. Republicans who should be enjoying absolute control over the country's legislature, now fear the voters far more than they fear the President's authority. Because he has very little authority outside the office.

The Health care fiasco has terrified Republicans of all stripes as they see that while they enjoy a majority now, the voters are very forcefully letting them know that they will very quickly turf a lot of them out if they dont start acting responsibly.

Trump brings disorder and chaos wherever he goes. He is a pathological liar, a grande-narcissist who has only one person's interests at heart - his own. He is the antithesis of the kind of leader a modern nation needs in troubled times, even more so when that country is the world's most powerful one.

Republicans know that Trump is a disaster. Even his supporters know that having Trump in the white house is worse than having Hilary Clinton. Because of the chaos and possibly criminal cloud that hangs over the White House, everything Trump does and says is toxic and that toxic touch hits every republican that doesn't openly dissociate from him.

The GOP is at war with itself - not between the conservatives and moderates as some surmise. They are at war between those that think Trump is a dangerous lunatic and their enemy and those that still think because he is a titular Republican that he is on their side. Trump is only on his own side.

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Re: The Republican Civil War
Reply #1 - Mar 27^th, 2017 at 12:53pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 12:37pm:

2017 was supposed to be a 'dream come true' for the Republicans. They had majorities in both houses of Congress and had won back the White House. In normal times, this would have been the GOP's best chance in an long time to implement their conservative agenda with little to no hindrance. The repeal of Obamacare was to be the first example of the 'low hanging' legislative fruit. It should have been easy, but it wasn't. It wasn't even simply difficult. It was impossible. And it is all because of Donald Trump.

In the first 100 days of new Presidential terms, approval ratings hang around the 70-90% range largely as a result that peculiar American habit of 'rallying around the President', even after a bitter campaign. Both of Trump's predecessors had approval ratings in the 80s and Obama even hit the 90s early on. But Trump is wallowing in the 30s and dropping fast. 20% ratings are considered not only a possibility, but inevitable.

Early in Clinton's first term. he proposed a tax measure that was unpopular among Democrats. However, Clinton was popular among the voters and he provided political cover for Congress to support this otherwise unpopular bill. Clinton succeeded. Trump however, with his 37% approval and the fact that it is falling rapidly, provides no cover for Republicans to support an unpopular bill. Quite the contrary, in fact. And so they all ran away from it.

Trump's failings are legion. His personal failings are plentiful and now we see that his political failings are even far worse. Frankly, he has no idea what he is doing and it shows. Republicans who should be enjoying absolute control over the country's legislature, now fear the voters far more than they fear the President's authority. Because he has very little authority outside the office.

The Health care fiasco has terrified Republicans of all stripes as they see that while they enjoy a majority now, the voters are very forcefully letting them know that they will very quickly turf a lot of them out if they dont start acting responsibly.

Trump brings disorder and chaos wherever he goes. He is a pathological liar, a grande-narcissist who has only one person's interests at heart - his own. He is the antithesis of the kind of leader a modern nation needs in troubled times, even more so when that country is the world's most powerful one.

Republicans know that Trump is a disaster. Even his supporters know that having Trump in the white house is worse than having Hilary Clinton. Because of the chaos and possibly criminal cloud that hangs over the White House, everything Trump does and says is toxic and that toxic touch hits every republican that doesn't openly dissociate from him.

The GOP is at war with itself - not between the conservatives and moderates as some surmise. They are at war between those that think Trump is a dangerous lunatic and their enemy and those that still think because he is a titular Republican that he is on their side. Trump is only on his own side.

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Why is weekend telling you this? A pack of lies!
He sounds desperate - but why?
He is an Australian - half the World away.

Perhaps Trumps successes may migrate to Australia.
An Australian Trump - how good would that be!

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Re: The Republican Civil War
Reply #3 - Mar 27^th, 2017 at 1:53pm

Richdude wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 12:53pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 12:37pm:

2017 was supposed to be a 'dream come true' for the Republicans. They had majorities in both houses of Congress and had won back the White House. In normal times, this would have been the GOP's best chance in an long time to implement their conservative agenda with little to no hindrance. The repeal of Obamacare was to be the first example of the 'low hanging' legislative fruit. It should have been easy, but it wasn't. It wasn't even simply difficult. It was impossible. And it is all because of Donald Trump.

In the first 100 days of new Presidential terms, approval ratings hang around the 70-90% range largely as a result that peculiar American habit of 'rallying around the President', even after a bitter campaign. Both of Trump's predecessors had approval ratings in the 80s and Obama even hit the 90s early on. But Trump is wallowing in the 30s and dropping fast. 20% ratings are considered not only a possibility, but inevitable.

Early in Clinton's first term. he proposed a tax measure that was unpopular among Democrats. However, Clinton was popular among the voters and he provided political cover for Congress to support this otherwise unpopular bill. Clinton succeeded. Trump however, with his 37% approval and the fact that it is falling rapidly, provides no cover for Republicans to support an unpopular bill. Quite the contrary, in fact. And so they all ran away from it.

Trump's failings are legion. His personal failings are plentiful and now we see that his political failings are even far worse. Frankly, he has no idea what he is doing and it shows. Republicans who should be enjoying absolute control over the country's legislature, now fear the voters far more than they fear the President's authority. Because he has very little authority outside the office.

The Health care fiasco has terrified Republicans of all stripes as they see that while they enjoy a majority now, the voters are very forcefully letting them know that they will very quickly turf a lot of them out if they dont start acting responsibly.

Trump brings disorder and chaos wherever he goes. He is a pathological liar, a grande-narcissist who has only one person's interests at heart - his own. He is the antithesis of the kind of leader a modern nation needs in troubled times, even more so when that country is the world's most powerful one.

Republicans know that Trump is a disaster. Even his supporters know that having Trump in the white house is worse than having Hilary Clinton. Because of the chaos and possibly criminal cloud that hangs over the White House, everything Trump does and says is toxic and that toxic touch hits every republican that doesn't openly dissociate from him.

The GOP is at war with itself - not between the conservatives and moderates as some surmise. They are at war between those that think Trump is a dangerous lunatic and their enemy and those that still think because he is a titular Republican that he is on their side. Trump is only on his own side.

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Why is weekend telling you this? A pack of lies!
He sounds desperate - but why?
He is an Australian - half the World away.

Perhaps Trumps successes may migrate to Australia.
An Australian Trump - how good would that be!

That would just flame LW58's lyin' Leftist Ass to a burnt crisp!!!

Hey, then he won't be able to pull anything else out of it to post................Come on down Trump, we'd love ya here in OZ!!!!

PS.......LW58 made that whole thing up himself, that's not a quote.

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Re: The Republican Civil War
Reply #4 - Mar 27^th, 2017 at 1:54pm

Panther wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 1:53pm:

Richdude wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 12:53pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 12:37pm:

2017 was supposed to be a 'dream come true' for the Republicans. They had majorities in both houses of Congress and had won back the White House. In normal times, this would have been the GOP's best chance in an long time to implement their conservative agenda with little to no hindrance. The repeal of Obamacare was to be the first example of the 'low hanging' legislative fruit. It should have been easy, but it wasn't. It wasn't even simply difficult. It was impossible. And it is all because of Donald Trump.

In the first 100 days of new Presidential terms, approval ratings hang around the 70-90% range largely as a result that peculiar American habit of 'rallying around the President', even after a bitter campaign. Both of Trump's predecessors had approval ratings in the 80s and Obama even hit the 90s early on. But Trump is wallowing in the 30s and dropping fast. 20% ratings are considered not only a possibility, but inevitable.

Early in Clinton's first term. he proposed a tax measure that was unpopular among Democrats. However, Clinton was popular among the voters and he provided political cover for Congress to support this otherwise unpopular bill. Clinton succeeded. Trump however, with his 37% approval and the fact that it is falling rapidly, provides no cover for Republicans to support an unpopular bill. Quite the contrary, in fact. And so they all ran away from it.

Trump's failings are legion. His personal failings are plentiful and now we see that his political failings are even far worse. Frankly, he has no idea what he is doing and it shows. Republicans who should be enjoying absolute control over the country's legislature, now fear the voters far more than they fear the President's authority. Because he has very little authority outside the office.

The Health care fiasco has terrified Republicans of all stripes as they see that while they enjoy a majority now, the voters are very forcefully letting them know that they will very quickly turf a lot of them out if they dont start acting responsibly.

Trump brings disorder and chaos wherever he goes. He is a pathological liar, a grande-narcissist who has only one person's interests at heart - his own. He is the antithesis of the kind of leader a modern nation needs in troubled times, even more so when that country is the world's most powerful one.

Republicans know that Trump is a disaster. Even his supporters know that having Trump in the white house is worse than having Hilary Clinton. Because of the chaos and possibly criminal cloud that hangs over the White House, everything Trump does and says is toxic and that toxic touch hits every republican that doesn't openly dissociate from him.

The GOP is at war with itself - not between the conservatives and moderates as some surmise. They are at war between those that think Trump is a dangerous lunatic and their enemy and those that still think because he is a titular Republican that he is on their side. Trump is only on his own side.

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Why is weekend telling you this? A pack of lies!
He sounds desperate - but why?
He is an Australian - half the World away.

Perhaps Trumps successes may migrate to Australia.
An Australian Trump - how good would that be!

That would just flame LW58's lyin' Leftist Ass to a burnt crisp!!! http://www.s22.site88.net/smileys/soapbox.gif

Hey, then he won't be able to pull anything else out of it to post................Come on down Trump, we'd love ya here in OZ!!!!

http://www.s22.site88.net/smileys/taunt.gif

What proportion of the population do you honestly think would agree with you?

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Re: The Republican Civil War
Reply #5 - Mar 27^th, 2017 at 2:08pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 1:54pm:

Panther wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 1:53pm:

Richdude wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 12:53pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 12:37pm:

2017 was supposed to be a 'dream come true' for the Republicans. They had majorities in both houses of Congress and had won back the White House. In normal times, this would have been the GOP's best chance in an long time to implement their conservative agenda with little to no hindrance. The repeal of Obamacare was to be the first example of the 'low hanging' legislative fruit. It should have been easy, but it wasn't. It wasn't even simply difficult. It was impossible. And it is all because of Donald Trump.

In the first 100 days of new Presidential terms, approval ratings hang around the 70-90% range largely as a result that peculiar American habit of 'rallying around the President', even after a bitter campaign. Both of Trump's predecessors had approval ratings in the 80s and Obama even hit the 90s early on. But Trump is wallowing in the 30s and dropping fast. 20% ratings are considered not only a possibility, but inevitable.

Early in Clinton's first term. he proposed a tax measure that was unpopular among Democrats. However, Clinton was popular among the voters and he provided political cover for Congress to support this otherwise unpopular bill. Clinton succeeded. Trump however, with his 37% approval and the fact that it is falling rapidly, provides no cover for Republicans to support an unpopular bill. Quite the contrary, in fact. And so they all ran away from it.

Trump's failings are legion. His personal failings are plentiful and now we see that his political failings are even far worse. Frankly, he has no idea what he is doing and it shows. Republicans who should be enjoying absolute control over the country's legislature, now fear the voters far more than they fear the President's authority. Because he has very little authority outside the office.

The Health care fiasco has terrified Republicans of all stripes as they see that while they enjoy a majority now, the voters are very forcefully letting them know that they will very quickly turf a lot of them out if they dont start acting responsibly.

Trump brings disorder and chaos wherever he goes. He is a pathological liar, a grande-narcissist who has only one person's interests at heart - his own. He is the antithesis of the kind of leader a modern nation needs in troubled times, even more so when that country is the world's most powerful one.

Republicans know that Trump is a disaster. Even his supporters know that having Trump in the white house is worse than having Hilary Clinton. Because of the chaos and possibly criminal cloud that hangs over the White House, everything Trump does and says is toxic and that toxic touch hits every republican that doesn't openly dissociate from him.

The GOP is at war with itself - not between the conservatives and moderates as some surmise. They are at war between those that think Trump is a dangerous lunatic and their enemy and those that still think because he is a titular Republican that he is on their side. Trump is only on his own side.

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Why is weekend telling you this? A pack of lies!
He sounds desperate - but why?
He is an Australian - half the World away.

Perhaps Trumps successes may migrate to Australia.
An Australian Trump - how good would that be!

That would just flame LW58's lyin' Leftist Ass to a burnt crisp!!! http://www.s22.site88.net/smileys/soapbox.gif

Hey, then he won't be able to pull anything else out of it to post................Come on down Trump, we'd love ya here in OZ!!!!

http://www.s22.site88.net/smileys/taunt.gif

What proportion of the population do you honestly think would agree with you?

IMHO....... If it were a binding government mandatory poll, probably only about 42% +/-

But, if it wasn't run by the government, probably 73% +/-

People tend to be more truthful when the poll is anonymous.

What do you think, in your Non-Orwellian Honest Opinion, being you have your sphincter on the pulse of our electorate DonkeyBoy????

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Re: The Republican Civil War
Reply #6 - Mar 27^th, 2017 at 2:12pm

Panther wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 2:08pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 1:54pm:

Panther wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 1:53pm:

Richdude wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 12:53pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 12:37pm:

2017 was supposed to be a 'dream come true' for the Republicans. They had majorities in both houses of Congress and had won back the White House. In normal times, this would have been the GOP's best chance in an long time to implement their conservative agenda with little to no hindrance. The repeal of Obamacare was to be the first example of the 'low hanging' legislative fruit. It should have been easy, but it wasn't. It wasn't even simply difficult. It was impossible. And it is all because of Donald Trump.

In the first 100 days of new Presidential terms, approval ratings hang around the 70-90% range largely as a result that peculiar American habit of 'rallying around the President', even after a bitter campaign. Both of Trump's predecessors had approval ratings in the 80s and Obama even hit the 90s early on. But Trump is wallowing in the 30s and dropping fast. 20% ratings are considered not only a possibility, but inevitable.

Early in Clinton's first term. he proposed a tax measure that was unpopular among Democrats. However, Clinton was popular among the voters and he provided political cover for Congress to support this otherwise unpopular bill. Clinton succeeded. Trump however, with his 37% approval and the fact that it is falling rapidly, provides no cover for Republicans to support an unpopular bill. Quite the contrary, in fact. And so they all ran away from it.

Trump's failings are legion. His personal failings are plentiful and now we see that his political failings are even far worse. Frankly, he has no idea what he is doing and it shows. Republicans who should be enjoying absolute control over the country's legislature, now fear the voters far more than they fear the President's authority. Because he has very little authority outside the office.

The Health care fiasco has terrified Republicans of all stripes as they see that while they enjoy a majority now, the voters are very forcefully letting them know that they will very quickly turf a lot of them out if they dont start acting responsibly.

Trump brings disorder and chaos wherever he goes. He is a pathological liar, a grande-narcissist who has only one person's interests at heart - his own. He is the antithesis of the kind of leader a modern nation needs in troubled times, even more so when that country is the world's most powerful one.

Republicans know that Trump is a disaster. Even his supporters know that having Trump in the white house is worse than having Hilary Clinton. Because of the chaos and possibly criminal cloud that hangs over the White House, everything Trump does and says is toxic and that toxic touch hits every republican that doesn't openly dissociate from him.

The GOP is at war with itself - not between the conservatives and moderates as some surmise. They are at war between those that think Trump is a dangerous lunatic and their enemy and those that still think because he is a titular Republican that he is on their side. Trump is only on his own side.

Reprinted with Permission

Why is weekend telling you this? A pack of lies!
He sounds desperate - but why?
He is an Australian - half the World away.

Perhaps Trumps successes may migrate to Australia.
An Australian Trump - how good would that be!

That would just flame LW58's lyin' Leftist Ass to a burnt crisp!!! http://www.s22.site88.net/smileys/soapbox.gif

Hey, then he won't be able to pull anything else out of it to post................Come on down Trump, we'd love ya here in OZ!!!!

http://www.s22.site88.net/smileys/taunt.gif

What proportion of the population do you honestly think would agree with you?

IMHO....... If it were a binding government mandatory poll, probably only about 42% +/-

But, if it wasn't run by the government, probably 73% +/-

People tend to be more truthful when the poll is anonymous.

What do you think, in your non-Orwellian Honest Opinion, being you have your sphincter on the pulse of our electorate DonkeyBoy????

I'd go 20% tops.

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Re: The Republican Civil War
Reply #7 - Mar 27^th, 2017 at 2:28pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 2:12pm:

Panther wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 2:08pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 1:54pm:

Panther wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 1:53pm:

Richdude wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 12:53pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 12:37pm:

2017 was supposed to be a 'dream come true' for the Republicans. They had majorities in both houses of Congress and had won back the White House. In normal times, this would have been the GOP's best chance in an long time to implement their conservative agenda with little to no hindrance. The repeal of Obamacare was to be the first example of the 'low hanging' legislative fruit. It should have been easy, but it wasn't. It wasn't even simply difficult. It was impossible. And it is all because of Donald Trump.

In the first 100 days of new Presidential terms, approval ratings hang around the 70-90% range largely as a result that peculiar American habit of 'rallying around the President', even after a bitter campaign. Both of Trump's predecessors had approval ratings in the 80s and Obama even hit the 90s early on. But Trump is wallowing in the 30s and dropping fast. 20% ratings are considered not only a possibility, but inevitable.

Early in Clinton's first term. he proposed a tax measure that was unpopular among Democrats. However, Clinton was popular among the voters and he provided political cover for Congress to support this otherwise unpopular bill. Clinton succeeded. Trump however, with his 37% approval and the fact that it is falling rapidly, provides no cover for Republicans to support an unpopular bill. Quite the contrary, in fact. And so they all ran away from it.

Trump's failings are legion. His personal failings are plentiful and now we see that his political failings are even far worse. Frankly, he has no idea what he is doing and it shows. Republicans who should be enjoying absolute control over the country's legislature, now fear the voters far more than they fear the President's authority. Because he has very little authority outside the office.

The Health care fiasco has terrified Republicans of all stripes as they see that while they enjoy a majority now, the voters are very forcefully letting them know that they will very quickly turf a lot of them out if they dont start acting responsibly.

Trump brings disorder and chaos wherever he goes. He is a pathological liar, a grande-narcissist who has only one person's interests at heart - his own. He is the antithesis of the kind of leader a modern nation needs in troubled times, even more so when that country is the world's most powerful one.

Republicans know that Trump is a disaster. Even his supporters know that having Trump in the white house is worse than having Hilary Clinton. Because of the chaos and possibly criminal cloud that hangs over the White House, everything Trump does and says is toxic and that toxic touch hits every republican that doesn't openly dissociate from him.

The GOP is at war with itself - not between the conservatives and moderates as some surmise. They are at war between those that think Trump is a dangerous lunatic and their enemy and those that still think because he is a titular Republican that he is on their side. Trump is only on his own side.

Reprinted with Permission

Why is weekend telling you this? A pack of lies!
He sounds desperate - but why?
He is an Australian - half the World away.

Perhaps Trumps successes may migrate to Australia.
An Australian Trump - how good would that be!

That would just flame LW58's lyin' Leftist Ass to a burnt crisp!!! http://www.s22.site88.net/smileys/soapbox.gif

Hey, then he won't be able to pull anything else out of it to post................Come on down Trump, we'd love ya here in OZ!!!!

http://www.s22.site88.net/smileys/taunt.gif

What proportion of the population do you honestly think would agree with you?

IMHO....... If it were a binding government mandatory poll, probably only about 42% +/-

But, if it wasn't run by the government, probably 73% +/-

People tend to be more truthful when the poll is anonymous.

What do you think, in your non-Orwellian Honest Opinion, being you have your sphincter on the pulse of our electorate DonkeyBoy????

I'd go 20% tops.

Good guess there DonkeyBoy, yer fellow mule fren LW58, would probably pull that....or an even lower number out his lyin' black ass!

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Re: The Republican Civil War
Reply #8 - Mar 27^th, 2017 at 2:29pm

Richdude wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 12:53pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 12:37pm:

2017 was supposed to be a 'dream come true' for the Republicans. They had majorities in both houses of Congress and had won back the White House. In normal times, this would have been the GOP's best chance in an long time to implement their conservative agenda with little to no hindrance. The repeal of Obamacare was to be the first example of the 'low hanging' legislative fruit. It should have been easy, but it wasn't. It wasn't even simply difficult. It was impossible. And it is all because of Donald Trump.

In the first 100 days of new Presidential terms, approval ratings hang around the 70-90% range largely as a result that peculiar American habit of 'rallying around the President', even after a bitter campaign. Both of Trump's predecessors had approval ratings in the 80s and Obama even hit the 90s early on. But Trump is wallowing in the 30s and dropping fast. 20% ratings are considered not only a possibility, but inevitable.

Early in Clinton's first term. he proposed a tax measure that was unpopular among Democrats. However, Clinton was popular among the voters and he provided political cover for Congress to support this otherwise unpopular bill. Clinton succeeded. Trump however, with his 37% approval and the fact that it is falling rapidly, provides no cover for Republicans to support an unpopular bill. Quite the contrary, in fact. And so they all ran away from it.

Trump's failings are legion. His personal failings are plentiful and now we see that his political failings are even far worse. Frankly, he has no idea what he is doing and it shows. Republicans who should be enjoying absolute control over the country's legislature, now fear the voters far more than they fear the President's authority. Because he has very little authority outside the office.

The Health care fiasco has terrified Republicans of all stripes as they see that while they enjoy a majority now, the voters are very forcefully letting them know that they will very quickly turf a lot of them out if they dont start acting responsibly.

Trump brings disorder and chaos wherever he goes. He is a pathological liar, a grande-narcissist who has only one person's interests at heart - his own. He is the antithesis of the kind of leader a modern nation needs in troubled times, even more so when that country is the world's most powerful one.

Republicans know that Trump is a disaster. Even his supporters know that having Trump in the white house is worse than having Hilary Clinton. Because of the chaos and possibly criminal cloud that hangs over the White House, everything Trump does and says is toxic and that toxic touch hits every republican that doesn't openly dissociate from him.

The GOP is at war with itself - not between the conservatives and moderates as some surmise. They are at war between those that think Trump is a dangerous lunatic and their enemy and those that still think because he is a titular Republican that he is on their side. Trump is only on his own side.

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Why is weekend telling you this? A pack of lies!
He sounds desperate - but why?
He is an Australian - half the World away.

Perhaps Trumps successes may migrate to Australia.
An Australian Trump - how good would that be!

What successes???? That is the point... The clown hasn't had a SINGLE success.

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Re: The Republican Civil War
Reply #9 - Mar 27^th, 2017 at 2:31pm

Panther wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 2:28pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 2:12pm:

Panther wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 2:08pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 1:54pm:

Panther wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 1:53pm:

Richdude wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 12:53pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 12:37pm:

2017 was supposed to be a 'dream come true' for the Republicans. They had majorities in both houses of Congress and had won back the White House. In normal times, this would have been the GOP's best chance in an long time to implement their conservative agenda with little to no hindrance. The repeal of Obamacare was to be the first example of the 'low hanging' legislative fruit. It should have been easy, but it wasn't. It wasn't even simply difficult. It was impossible. And it is all because of Donald Trump.

In the first 100 days of new Presidential terms, approval ratings hang around the 70-90% range largely as a result that peculiar American habit of 'rallying around the President', even after a bitter campaign. Both of Trump's predecessors had approval ratings in the 80s and Obama even hit the 90s early on. But Trump is wallowing in the 30s and dropping fast. 20% ratings are considered not only a possibility, but inevitable.

Early in Clinton's first term. he proposed a tax measure that was unpopular among Democrats. However, Clinton was popular among the voters and he provided political cover for Congress to support this otherwise unpopular bill. Clinton succeeded. Trump however, with his 37% approval and the fact that it is falling rapidly, provides no cover for Republicans to support an unpopular bill. Quite the contrary, in fact. And so they all ran away from it.

Trump's failings are legion. His personal failings are plentiful and now we see that his political failings are even far worse. Frankly, he has no idea what he is doing and it shows. Republicans who should be enjoying absolute control over the country's legislature, now fear the voters far more than they fear the President's authority. Because he has very little authority outside the office.

The Health care fiasco has terrified Republicans of all stripes as they see that while they enjoy a majority now, the voters are very forcefully letting them know that they will very quickly turf a lot of them out if they dont start acting responsibly.

Trump brings disorder and chaos wherever he goes. He is a pathological liar, a grande-narcissist who has only one person's interests at heart - his own. He is the antithesis of the kind of leader a modern nation needs in troubled times, even more so when that country is the world's most powerful one.

Republicans know that Trump is a disaster. Even his supporters know that having Trump in the white house is worse than having Hilary Clinton. Because of the chaos and possibly criminal cloud that hangs over the White House, everything Trump does and says is toxic and that toxic touch hits every republican that doesn't openly dissociate from him.

The GOP is at war with itself - not between the conservatives and moderates as some surmise. They are at war between those that think Trump is a dangerous lunatic and their enemy and those that still think because he is a titular Republican that he is on their side. Trump is only on his own side.

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Why is weekend telling you this? A pack of lies!
He sounds desperate - but why?
He is an Australian - half the World away.

Perhaps Trumps successes may migrate to Australia.
An Australian Trump - how good would that be!

That would just flame LW58's lyin' Leftist Ass to a burnt crisp!!! http://www.s22.site88.net/smileys/soapbox.gif

Hey, then he won't be able to pull anything else out of it to post................Come on down Trump, we'd love ya here in OZ!!!!

http://www.s22.site88.net/smileys/taunt.gif

What proportion of the population do you honestly think would agree with you?

IMHO....... If it were a binding government mandatory poll, probably only about 42% +/-

But, if it wasn't run by the government, probably 73% +/-

People tend to be more truthful when the poll is anonymous.

What do you think, in your non-Orwellian Honest Opinion, being you have your sphincter on the pulse of our electorate DonkeyBoy????

I'd go 20% tops.

Good guess there DonkeyBoy, yer fellow mule fren LW58, would probably pull that....or an even lower number out his lyin' black ass!

Your rampant racism is not an actual argument. The polls for Trump are plummeting. Get used to it.

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Re: The Republican Civil War
Reply #11 - Mar 27^th, 2017 at 2:35pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 2:31pm:

Panther wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 2:28pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 2:12pm:

Panther wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 2:08pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 1:54pm:

Panther wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 1:53pm:

Richdude wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 12:53pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 12:37pm:

2017 was supposed to be a 'dream come true' for the Republicans. They had majorities in both houses of Congress and had won back the White House. In normal times, this would have been the GOP's best chance in an long time to implement their conservative agenda with little to no hindrance. The repeal of Obamacare was to be the first example of the 'low hanging' legislative fruit. It should have been easy, but it wasn't. It wasn't even simply difficult. It was impossible. And it is all because of Donald Trump.

In the first 100 days of new Presidential terms, approval ratings hang around the 70-90% range largely as a result that peculiar American habit of 'rallying around the President', even after a bitter campaign. Both of Trump's predecessors had approval ratings in the 80s and Obama even hit the 90s early on. But Trump is wallowing in the 30s and dropping fast. 20% ratings are considered not only a possibility, but inevitable.

Early in Clinton's first term. he proposed a tax measure that was unpopular among Democrats. However, Clinton was popular among the voters and he provided political cover for Congress to support this otherwise unpopular bill. Clinton succeeded. Trump however, with his 37% approval and the fact that it is falling rapidly, provides no cover for Republicans to support an unpopular bill. Quite the contrary, in fact. And so they all ran away from it.

Trump's failings are legion. His personal failings are plentiful and now we see that his political failings are even far worse. Frankly, he has no idea what he is doing and it shows. Republicans who should be enjoying absolute control over the country's legislature, now fear the voters far more than they fear the President's authority. Because he has very little authority outside the office.

The Health care fiasco has terrified Republicans of all stripes as they see that while they enjoy a majority now, the voters are very forcefully letting them know that they will very quickly turf a lot of them out if they dont start acting responsibly.

Trump brings disorder and chaos wherever he goes. He is a pathological liar, a grande-narcissist who has only one person's interests at heart - his own. He is the antithesis of the kind of leader a modern nation needs in troubled times, even more so when that country is the world's most powerful one.

Republicans know that Trump is a disaster. Even his supporters know that having Trump in the white house is worse than having Hilary Clinton. Because of the chaos and possibly criminal cloud that hangs over the White House, everything Trump does and says is toxic and that toxic touch hits every republican that doesn't openly dissociate from him.

The GOP is at war with itself - not between the conservatives and moderates as some surmise. They are at war between those that think Trump is a dangerous lunatic and their enemy and those that still think because he is a titular Republican that he is on their side. Trump is only on his own side.

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Why is weekend telling you this? A pack of lies!
He sounds desperate - but why?
He is an Australian - half the World away.

Perhaps Trumps successes may migrate to Australia.
An Australian Trump - how good would that be!

That would just flame LW58's lyin' Leftist Ass to a burnt crisp!!! http://www.s22.site88.net/smileys/soapbox.gif

Hey, then he won't be able to pull anything else out of it to post................Come on down Trump, we'd love ya here in OZ!!!!

http://www.s22.site88.net/smileys/taunt.gif

What proportion of the population do you honestly think would agree with you?

IMHO....... If it were a binding government mandatory poll, probably only about 42% +/-

But, if it wasn't run by the government, probably 73% +/-

People tend to be more truthful when the poll is anonymous.

What do you think, in your non-Orwellian Honest Opinion, being you have your sphincter on the pulse of our electorate DonkeyBoy????

I'd go 20% tops.

Good guess there DonkeyBoy, yer fellow mule fren LW58, would probably pull that....or an even lower number out his lyin' black ass!

Your rampant racism is not an actual argument. The polls for Trump are plummeting. Get used to it.

Again....ask me if I give a royal rat's ass.....He's the President of the United States of America, & nothing you could pull out your black, crusty, blood drippin' stank ass will ever change that......

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Re: The Republican Civil War
Reply #12 - Mar 27^th, 2017 at 3:36pm

Panther wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 2:35pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 2:31pm:

Panther wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 2:28pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 2:12pm:

Panther wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 2:08pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 1:54pm:

Panther wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 1:53pm:

Richdude wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 12:53pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 27^th, 2017 at 12:37pm:

2017 was supposed to be a 'dream come true' for the Republicans. They had majorities in both houses of Congress and had won back the White House. In normal times, this would have been the GOP's best chance in an long time to implement their conservative agenda with little to no hindrance. The repeal of Obamacare was to be the first example of the 'low hanging' legislative fruit. It should have been easy, but it wasn't. It wasn't even simply difficult. It was impossible. And it is all because of Donald Trump.

In the first 100 days of new Presidential terms, approval ratings hang around the 70-90% range largely as a result that peculiar American habit of 'rallying around the President', even after a bitter campaign. Both of Trump's predecessors had approval ratings in the 80s and Obama even hit the 90s early on. But Trump is wallowing in the 30s and dropping fast. 20% ratings are considered not only a possibility, but inevitable.

Early in Clinton's first term. he proposed a tax measure that was unpopular among Democrats. However, Clinton was popular among the voters and he provided political cover for Congress to support this otherwise unpopular bill. Clinton succeeded. Trump however, with his 37% approval and the fact that it is falling rapidly, provides no cover for Republicans to support an unpopular bill. Quite the contrary, in fact. And so they all ran away from it.

Trump's failings are legion. His personal failings are plentiful and now we see that his political failings are even far worse. Frankly, he has no idea what he is doing and it shows. Republicans who should be enjoying absolute control over the country's legislature, now fear the voters far more than they fear the President's authority. Because he has very little authority outside the office.

The Health care fiasco has terrified Republicans of all stripes as they see that while they enjoy a majority now, the voters are very forcefully letting them know that they will very quickly turf a lot of them out if they dont start acting responsibly.

Trump brings disorder and chaos wherever he goes. He is a pathological liar, a grande-narcissist who has only one person's interests at heart - his own. He is the antithesis of the kind of leader a modern nation needs in troubled times, even more so when that country is the world's most powerful one.

Republicans know that Trump is a disaster. Even his supporters know that having Trump in the white house is worse than having Hilary Clinton. Because of the chaos and possibly criminal cloud that hangs over the White House, everything Trump does and says is toxic and that toxic touch hits every republican that doesn't openly dissociate from him.

The GOP is at war with itself - not between the conservatives and moderates as some surmise. They are at war between those that think Trump is a dangerous lunatic and their enemy and those that still think because he is a titular Republican that he is on their side. Trump is only on his own side.

Reprinted with Permission

Why is weekend telling you this? A pack of lies!
He sounds desperate - but why?
He is an Australian - half the World away.

Perhaps Trumps successes may migrate to Australia.
An Australian Trump - how good would that be!

That would just flame LW58's lyin' Leftist Ass to a burnt crisp!!! http://www.s22.site88.net/smileys/soapbox.gif

Hey, then he won't be able to pull anything else out of it to post................Come on down Trump, we'd love ya here in OZ!!!!

http://www.s22.site88.net/smileys/taunt.gif

What proportion of the population do you honestly think would agree with you?

IMHO....... If it were a binding government mandatory poll, probably only about 42% +/-

I'd go 20% tops.

Good guess there DonkeyBoy, yer fellow mule fren LW58, would probably pull that....or an even lower number out his lyin' black ass!

Your rampant racism is not an actual argument. The polls for Trump are plummeting. Get used to it.

Again....ask me if I give a royal rat's ass.....He's the President of the United States of America, & nothing you could pull out your black, crusty, blood drippin' stank ass will ever change that...... http://www.s22.site88.net/smileys/dance2fz9.gif

And you think that repeatedly demonstrating your racism and your general ignorance makes you look smarter? you still look and sound like a fool.

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Re: The Republican Civil War
Reply #14 - Mar 27^th, 2017 at 8:31pm

The Republicans created the political climate conducive of Trump's nomination, by convincing conservative voters that Health Care (among other things)was part of a socialist agenda that was fiscally irresponsible and down right un-American.

Trump did not campaign on fixing socialised medicine, he said that when he was elected, it would be GONE. Now, many republicans are wobbling on just what they meant back in the Obama days.

There are intelligent Republicans who are shaking their heads right now.

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