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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 37678 Gender:	Re: The 600 Filipino Grand Caliphate. Reply #45 - Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:37pm Oh yeas you are Setanta. Quote: Perhaps it's because you end up defending Islam rather than Muslims you come unstuck? That is a judgement call which declares yourself a winner. You ask 'why is Aussie defending Islam' out of ignorance of what I have posted many times in those Sub Forums.
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Re: The 600 Filipino Grand Caliphate.
Reply #46 - Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:44pm

The Philippines Moro insurgency has been going for nearly 50 years and no Philippine government has ever come close to victory against them. Every time the government intervenes more Philippinos join the insurgency.

A ragtag bunch of Philippinos of not more than 250 men nearly took over the Malaysian State of Sabah several years ago. They killed a few police and other people, lost 50+ pf their own killed and then negotiated their way out.

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2013 Lahad Datu standoff
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2013 Lahad Datu standoff

Date 11 February 2013 – 24 March 2013[7]
(1 month, 1 week and 6 days)
Location Tanduo, Lahad Datu, Semporna, Kunak and Tawau in eastern Sabah
Result
Decisive Malaysian victory.[8][9]
Military operations replaced by ESSCOM and ESSZONE.[10][11]
Those detained were charged under the Security Offences (Special Measures) Act 2012.
Thousands of illegal immigrants in Sabah repatriated back to their countries.[1][12][13]

235 (Filipino media)[16][17]
400 (Kiram claimed)[18][19] 6,500+ (7 battalions)
Casualties and losses
56 killed
3 wounded
149 captured
68 killed (Malaysian Government claimed)[6]
10 killed (1 non-combat casualty)[note 2]
12 wounded
Civilian casualties
6 killed
1 wounded
6 escaped[note 3]
564 arrested[note 4]
All statistics reference:[7][20][21][22]

Note: All these total only during the standoff and does not include the total in any further actions.
The 2013 Lahad Datu standoff (also known as the Lahad Datu incursion) was a military conflict that started on 11 February 2013 and fully ended on 24 March 2013.[7] The standoff arose after 235 militants, some of whom were armed,[16] arrived by boats in Lahad Datu, Sabah, Malaysia from Simunul island, Tawi-Tawi, in the southern Philippines, on 11 February 2013.[14][23][24] The group, calling themselves the "Royal Security Forces of the Sultanate of Sulu and North Borneo",[14] was sent by Jamalul Kiram III, one of the claimants to the throne of the Sultanate of Sulu.
Kiram III stated that their objective was to assert the unresolved territorial claim of the Philippines to eastern Sabah (the former North Borneo).[25] Malaysian security forces surrounded the village of Tanduo in Lahad Datu where the group had gathered and, after several weeks of negotiations and unmet deadlines for the intruders to withdraw, the Malaysian security forces attacked and routed the Sulu militants. At the end of the standoff, around 56 militants were killed together with 6 civilians and 10 Malaysian security forces.

National territorial dispute[edit]
Main articles: North Borneo dispute and Madrid Protocol of 1885
The Philippines retains a dormant territorial claim to eastern Sabah, formerly known as North Borneo, through the heritage of the Sultanate of Sulu.[24][26] The basis of this claim is that the dominion of the sultanate has historically spanned from the Sulu Archipelago into parts of northern Borneo. ...

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Re: The 600 Filipino Grand Caliphate.
Reply #47 - Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:45pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:37pm:

Oh yeas you are Setanta.

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Perhaps it's because you end up defending Islam rather than Muslims you come unstuck?

That is a judgement call which declares yourself a winner.

You ask 'why is Aussie defending Islam' out of ignorance of what I have posted many times in those Sub Forums.

I thought it more an observation, not an "I win!". You do come unstuck because it appears you support Islam. Make a clear distinction. Put Islam where it belongs, under pig shyte, hold Muslims as fellow men, not all with your best interests at heart but neither do some of the members of other groups. However most just want to live their lives.

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 37678 Gender:	Re: The 600 Filipino Grand Caliphate. Reply #48 - Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:48pm Quote: I thought it more an observation, not an "I win!".
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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 15914 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: The 600 Filipino Grand Caliphate. Reply #49 - Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:48pm Aussie wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:48pm: Quote: I thought it more an observation, not an "I win!". Does that mean I win?
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 37678 Gender:	Re: The 600 Filipino Grand Caliphate. Reply #50 - Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:50pm Setanta wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:48pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:48pm: Quote: I thought it more an observation, not an "I win!". Does that mean I win? It means you thought you did.
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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 15914 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: The 600 Filipino Grand Caliphate. Reply #51 - Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:51pm Aussie wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:50pm: Setanta wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:48pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:48pm: Quote: I thought it more an observation, not an "I win!". Does that mean I win? It means you thought you did. It doesn't you know. Does that mean you win?
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 37678 Gender:	Re: The 600 Filipino Grand Caliphate. Reply #52 - Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:57pm Others can decide that. Not me.
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Re: The 600 Filipino Grand Caliphate.
Reply #53 - Mar 26^th, 2017 at 10:02pm

Like the house of Saud, the Sultan of Brunei owns huge investments in the West. He wields immense power quietly, and consequently, he has influence in Western government. The reason Saud and Brunei are not on Trumps ban list, or for that matter under restrictions of the Bush administration, was because they are in business with our leadership social echelon. Ever wonder why they don't do anything about the Wahabs who created bin laden?

Muzlim immigration is only one part of the expansion of Islam. Buying in, is another. People like Sadiq Khan are yet another.

The Sultan saw the possiblility of his family losing power, and so he feigned Islamic piety by introducing Sharia Law, which would have made opposition not only illegal, but sacrilegious. At the last moment he decided to postpone Sharia, because it was a little too inflammitary for his Western business partners to accept, but that will change as more politicians like Sadiq Khan get into power. For example, secular Turkey is history.

In the mean time, Brunei will be the staging camp for ISIS moving into the southern Philippines where they already have a foothold. And while this happens, shizzenkopfs like Gandalf, Brian Ross (Doctor of Divinity), John Smith, Mothra, and Greg, will insist its only a figment of the imagination of Islamophobes. The stunning thing about their perception is that they can see a video of a beheading, and pretend it is not real religion.

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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 15914 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: The 600 Filipino Grand Caliphate. Reply #54 - Mar 26^th, 2017 at 10:02pm Aussie wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:57pm: Others can decide that. Not me. Let me give you a tip I would have thought you would have gleaned by now. I'm not here to "win". That you took it that way says more about you than me.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 37678 Gender:	Re: The 600 Filipino Grand Caliphate. Reply #55 - Mar 26^th, 2017 at 10:04pm Setanta wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 10:02pm: Aussie wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:57pm: Others can decide that. Not me. Let me give you a tip I would have thought you would have gleaned by now. I'm not here to "win". That you took it that way says more about you than me. Others can decide that, not me.
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Re: The 600 Filipino Grand Caliphate.
Reply #56 - Mar 26^th, 2017 at 10:06pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 10:04pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 10:02pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:57pm:

Others can decide that. Not me.

Let me give you a tip I would have thought you would have gleaned by now. I'm not here to "win". That you took it that way says more about you than me.

Others can decide that, not me.

I have no problem with that.

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 37678 Gender:	Re: The 600 Filipino Grand Caliphate. Reply #57 - Mar 26^th, 2017 at 10:08pm What would it matter if you did?
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Re: The 600 Filipino Grand Caliphate.
Reply #58 - Mar 26^th, 2017 at 10:09pm

Setanta wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 10:06pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 10:04pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 10:02pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 9:57pm:

Others can decide that. Not me.

Let me give you a tip I would have thought you would have gleaned by now. I'm not here to "win". That you took it that way says more about you than me.

Others can decide that, not me.

I have no problem with that.

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Re: The 600 Filipino Grand Caliphate.
Reply #59 - Mar 26^th, 2017 at 10:09pm

issuevoter wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 10:02pm:

Like the house of Saud, the Sultan of Brunei owns huge investments in the West. He wields immense power quietly, and consequently, he has influence in Western government. The reason Saud and Brunei are not on Trumps ban list, or for that matter under restrictions of the Bush administration, was because they are in business with our leadership social echelon. Ever wonder why they don't do anything about the Wahabs who created bin laden?

Muzlim immigration is only one part of the expansion of Islam. Buying in, is another. People like Sadiq Khan are yet another.

The Sultan saw the possiblility of his family losing power, and so he feigned Islamic piety by introducing Sharia Law, which would have made opposition not only illegal, but sacrilegious. At the last moment he decided to postpone Sharia, because it was a little too inflammitary for his Western business partners to accept, but that will change as more politicians like Sadiq Khan get into power. For example, secular Turkey is history.

In the mean time, Brunei will be the staging camp for ISIS moving into the southern Philippines where they already have a foothold. And while this happens, shizzenkopfs like Gandalf, Brian Ross (Doctor of Divinity), John Smith, Mothra, and Greg, will insist its only a figment of the imagination of Islamophobes. The stunning thing about their perception is that they can see a video of a beheading, and pretend it is not real religion.

Is that more hideous than a drone strike that kills women and children as collateral damage? Or a drone strike that kills a wedding party by mistake? Or a drone strike that kills mourners at a funeral for those killed in a drone strike.

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